Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Hope & Change FTW wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

No sign of collusion?

The signs are everywhere. That's why we now have a special prosecutor.

There are also plenty of signs of crimes committed by Trump and his cronies. But when you are going after the president, you don't do it hastily. Mueller will get his ducks in a row and then it will all hit the fan. These things take time.

Keep those fingers crossed tightly guys!! Maybe you haven't been crossing them hard enough??

LOL @ hopeless idiots

exthrower - don't blame you for posting under a different handle. But that was a feeble response. At least you didn't repeat the Trump mantra of Fake News, Fake News!

Serious issue wrote:

exthrower wrote:

Well, the FBI investigation is almost one year old and still no sign of collusion or wrongdoing.....What are you losers gonna 'hang your hat on" next?

I think you mean no has been arrested yet.

And tell me how long have we had an independent counsel looking into this?

Oh, less than two weeks, and no arrests yet, wow.

Trump supporters remind me of the mothers of delinquents. Oh my boy, he would never do anything like that!.....You can't prove anything!

Just as the delinquent's mother is blinded by love, so is the Trump supporter.

The only crimes that have been committed are leaks and unmasking of US citizens. Clear as day.

Again, if you have any evidence of wrong doing please post here.

itbaddude wrote:

Serious issue wrote:

I think you mean no has been arrested yet.

And tell me how long have we had an independent counsel looking into this?

Oh, less than two weeks, and no arrests yet, wow.

Trump supporters remind me of the mothers of delinquents. Oh my boy, he would never do anything like that!.....You can't prove anything!

Just as the delinquent's mother is blinded by love, so is the Trump supporter.

The only crimes that have been committed are leaks and unmasking of US citizens. Clear as day.

Again, if you have any evidence of wrong doing please post here.

Why, you are in love and will never admit to trump people doing anything illegal.

Kushner and Flynn not reporting Russian contacts on their security clearance is illegal. cam you agree with that?

Fat hurts wrote:

exthrower wrote:

Well, the FBI investigation is almost one year old and still no sign of collusion or wrongdoing.....What are you losers gonna 'hang your hat on" next?

No sign of collusion?

The signs are everywhere. That's why we now have a special prosecutor.

There are also plenty of signs of crimes committed by Trump and his cronies. But when you are going after the president, you don't do it hastily. Mueller will get his ducks in a row and then it will all hit the fan. These things take time.

True.

Fat hurts wrote:

exthrower wrote:

Well, the FBI investigation is almost one year old and still no sign of collusion or wrongdoing.....What are you losers gonna 'hang your hat on" next?

No sign of collusion?

The signs are everywhere. That's why we now have a special prosecutor.

There are also plenty of signs of crimes committed by Trump and his cronies. But when you are going after the president, you don't do it hastily. Mueller will get his ducks in a row and then it will all hit the fan. These things take time.

Flagpole wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

No sign of collusion?

The signs are everywhere. That's why we now have a special prosecutor.

There are also plenty of signs of crimes committed by Trump and his cronies. But when you are going after the president, you don't do it hastily. Mueller will get his ducks in a row and then it will all hit the fan. These things take time.

True.

You're such a silly man. Like, a joke of a man.

Bobby Bandwidth wrote:

exthrower wrote:

Well, the FBI investigation is almost one year old and still no sign of collusion or wrongdoing.....What are you losers gonna 'hang your hat on" next?

Didn't we have like 12 Beghazi investigations over 4-5 years? With that sort of precedent, there's still years remaining before all this gets sorted out!

Don't forget What they did to Bill Clinton's cabinet.

Worst case, they give Trump enough rope to hang himself. If polling collapses, out come the impeachment charges.

Make America Great Again wrote:

http://dailycaller.com/2017/05/27/trump-russia-collusion-conspiracy-theory-is-running-out-of-steam/

Ahem, the author of that article is a diehard Trumpkin.

The daily caller has been proven to publish blatantly and purposely false stories.

It's a rag.

Serious issue wrote:

The daily caller has been proven to publish blatantly and purposely false stories.

It's a rag.

So? Did you have some kind of point?

MAGA!

Neener, Neener, Neener!

MAGA! MAGA! Oooh yeah!!!

I'm a Republican that has gotten tired of Trump. I am ready for president Mike Pence. I hope Trump gets under too much pressure and resigns fast so Mike can take over.

Pence is not perfect, to much of a religious nut, but he'll be much better than Trump.

I am just tired of defending Trump and his people. Bring on Pence.

time to move on wrote:

I'm a Republican that has gotten tired of Trump. I am ready for president Mike Pence. I hope Trump gets under too much pressure and resigns fast so Mike can take over.

Pence is not perfect, to much of a religious nut, but he'll be much better than Trump.

I am just tired of defending Trump and his people. Bring on Pence.

(Though you are obviously just trolling... I'll play along...)

Oh for sure, bring on Pence... because the media will be very friendly with a guy that is anti-gay, anti-abortion, low tax, isn't a friend of unions at all, and is super religious.

People have the shortest memories.

Puh-lease wrote:

time to move on wrote:

I'm a Republican that has gotten tired of Trump. I am ready for president Mike Pence. I hope Trump gets under too much pressure and resigns fast so Mike can take over.

Pence is not perfect, to much of a religious nut, but he'll be much better than Trump.

I am just tired of defending Trump and his people. Bring on Pence.

(Though you are obviously just trolling... I'll play along...)

Oh for sure, bring on Pence... because the media will be very friendly with a guy that is anti-gay, anti-abortion, low tax, isn't a friend of unions at all, and is super religious.

People have the shortest memories.

He may be trolling, but he does express a sentiment that is common among traditional Republicans.

If Pence is not ensnared by Trump's scandals and he becomes president, I do think he would at least tone down the drama. Nobody gets a free pass from the media, but things would become more "normal".

As long as we are talking about what might happen and why the timing is the way it is, here is how I see the political calculus:

Should Trump be forced out of office, Pence may or may not go along with him. If Pence stays in office he becomes president. Simple.

But consider what happens if Pence is thrown out as well. Depending on when it happens, it gets really interesting.

If it happens before the next congress is sworn in (early 2019), then Paul Ryan becomes president.

If it happens after the next congress and the Democrats take control of the house, they can install literally anybody they want as president. Democrats could appoint anybody as speaker of the house. That person does not need to be a member of congress. The speaker would become president. They could even decide to install Hillary.

It's a crazy scenario, of course. But it could happen.

These scenarios partially explain why this is all moving at this particular pace. Republicans don't want to oust Trump before they have a chance to pass their legislation. Democrats don't want to oust Trump before they have a chance to use his unpopularity to gain control of congress in 2018.

Just like Agip, I'm seeing more and more "ifs" out of you guys lately. All your posts are based on "if" scenarios now. You can't see that?

How about this:

If none of this happens by January 1, 2019, do you promise to never post on LRC ever again?

For my part, if any of this does actually happen, I hereby promise to never post on LRC again.

Deal (please)?

The "ifs" drive the politics and ultimately, the policies. Without them, this thread would be really dull.

There were a lot of ifs that fell into place in order for Trump to get elected.

If he won Ohio (50/50) and Florida (not likely) then Trump had a chance to win if he also won PA, WI and MI.

And none of those last three states were on anyone's map to go to Trump.

There were a stunning amounts of ifs that worked out.

If Trump goes down, the process won't be quick.

It is more likely to happen after Jan 2019 than before.

The same process that would bring Trump down would likely turn the House in Nov 2018.

So you'd have a Democrat majority in 2019. They can pick any Speaker they want, including Hillary.

So there really is only one "if" that matters here.

If Trump is impeached or resigns, all of the dominoes fall over.

It's the "when" that matters.

If the if comes true, then Republicans would want it to happen inside the next 12 months. Before the 2018 midterm elections.

That would put Pence or Ryan in power.

Politically speaking, the Democrats are better suited if this process takes two years to get Trump out and the news gets worse each month coming to a head in October 2018.

the rats be fleeing the ship. Comms director gone. Nat Sec Adv. gone. Deputy chief of staff gone. Jared is talking about leaving after six months.

no speculation there. facts. like trump having an approval rating in the 30s. Like his committed base peeling off day by day. Like the multiple investigations into the Trump campaign and WH.

No ifs.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/30/us/politics/trump-dubke-white-house-staff-changes.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0