Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Racket wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

You too!

Did Rigged seriously just accuse a veteran of being crazy from PTSD?

Both PTSD & TDS.

Runningart2004 wrote:

Given that the Mueller Investigation has already been more successful in terms of indictments, verdicts, and guilty pleas than ANY special counsel investigation in history....

Most people indicted by Mueller are Russians (GRU agents, Internet firm people) who cannot be brought to courts in the US. In other words, this is all for the "show" to impress the audience. So the Russians interfered in the election. There is no evidence they colluded with anyone in the US or they had any impact on the outcome.

People like Manafort and Gates were indicted on charges unrelated to the Trump campaign. And then there are those who have been charged of process crime... having lied to either Congress or FBI.

It looks more and more like Ken Starr's fishing expedition. You look for a crime, and cannot find enough evidence. You keep looking until you find something, even if that has nothing to do with the original investigation. The Deep State showed leniency when Clinton caved in. But President Trump remains defiant because he is not a wimp.

Presidential harassment did not work for GOP in 1990s. It won't work for Dems this time, either. It's time to "move on" and focus on the real needs of people.

Hamberder wrote:

jesseriley wrote:

Trump cries: “I want my border wa-wa!” And cheeseburgers.

I thought those were cheeseberders!

That's assuming Trump can spell cheese.

Runningart2004 wrote:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

Or 40%.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

Or 42%

Or ya know, just pick the ONE poll that fits your agenda....

Alan

Yep, like you do on the left side Alan, just like you;)

A liberal would never post the high one and would call it fake and unreliable, but their source is accurate. Hillary-ious!

Wow, this post really proves it. Flagpole has gone into hiding after reading it.

Flagpole means Failure in Ohio.

1100 wrote:

” Hillary Clinton is a racist, divisive mobster, with 1/3 of the country backing her in his ways.” - agip

Agreed.

There’s No Woman like Snow Woman!

She could roll the Trump insult into a campaign slogan.

Works across the aisle.

What y’all think?

Alan

I don't think you have been following closely.

There has been tons of evidence of collusion. Just the Trump Tower meeting can be legally construed as Conspiracy Against the United States. And so far, we know of over 100 contacts between Russian operatives and Trump campaign officials. This included at least 27 meetings in addition to the famous Trump Tower meeting. Add to all that the fact that the Trump campaign gave blanket denials over and over, saying there was no contact whatsoever.

Yes, most (but not all) of the charges against Americans so far were for lying to the special counsel or to congress. But look what they were lying about. They were lying to cover up evidence of collusion. It's collusion that definitely happened.

There's absolutely no way for you to know whether Mueller has evidence of collusion. This statement is wishful thinking at best, and outright delusional at worst.

Even looking only at what's publicly known, there seems to be evidence of collusion. The Trump tower meeting and the fabricated cover-up, Trump's asking Russia to find Hillary's emails, and Stone's statement about Podesta being in the barrel before Podesta's emails were leaked. Cohen's lying, possibly at Trump's request, about the timing of negotiations over the Moscow Trump Tower. You can go back to one of Trump's kids bragging that they don't have to worry about financing, they can get as much money as they need from their Russian backers. Also, Mueller's indictment of Stone, which mentions someone directing a senior campaign official to find out from Stone when the next email drop would occur. All of these things could be circumstantial evidence of conspiracy.

Between all the lying that we now know Trump and his people did and Trump's repeated attacks on Mueller and his investigation, it brings to mind that raging liberal Trey Gowdy, who said:

"When you are innocent … act like it," Gowdy said on Fox News Sunday after he was asked about Trump's repeated attacks on Mueller on Twitter. "If you’ve done nothing wrong, you should want the investigation to be as fulsome and thorough as possible."

no Alan, no Alan, no wrote:

Runningart2004 wrote:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

Or 40%.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

Or 42%

Or ya know, just pick the ONE poll that fits your agenda....

Alan

Yep, like you do on the left side Alan, just like you;)

A liberal would never post the high one and would call it fake and unreliable, but their source is accurate. Hillary-ious!

0/10

Both 538 and RealClear Politics are poll aggregators. That means they both include Rasmussen's high numbers--which Trumper favor--as part of a weighted rating. Rasmussen is a singular poll.

^This. And proving conspiracy is a very, very high standard. Mueller's team might be convinced they colluded with Russia, but it may be very difficult to prove without giving up sources. If they can indict on other related charges, they will do so. Plus, even if Mueller feels confident he can prove collusion (conspiracy), he isn't going to release what he knows about collusion until the very end.

0/10 wrote:

no Alan, no Alan, no wrote:

Yep, like you do on the left side Alan, just like you;)

A liberal would never post the high one and would call it fake and unreliable, but their source is accurate. Hillary-ious!

0/10

Both 538 and RealClear Politics are poll aggregators. That means they both include Rasmussen's high numbers--which Trumper favor--as part of a weighted rating. Rasmussen is a singular poll.

Yep....and if 20 polls find his approval under 40% but one find his approval over 50% then those 20 polls are the outliers....

Interesting to point out, Rasmussen is one of the only polls to use “Likely Voters” vs “Registered Voters” or “Adults”.

Not sure how that factors in.

Alan

Runningart2004 wrote:

0/10 wrote:

0/10

Both 538 and RealClear Politics are poll aggregators. That means they both include Rasmussen's high numbers--which Trumper favor--as part of a weighted rating. Rasmussen is a singular poll.

Yep....and if 20 polls find his approval under 40% but one find his approval over 50% then those 20 polls are the outliers....

Interesting to point out, Rasmussen is one of the only polls to use “Likely Voters” vs “Registered Voters” or “Adults”.

Not sure how that factors in.

Alan

It factors, big time. Polls which use likely voters are much more accurate than those which use registered voters. I mentioned this a few months ago.

Runningart2004 wrote:

There’s No Woman like Snow Woman!

She could roll the Trump insult into a campaign slogan.

Works across the aisle.

What y’all think?

Alan

I'm a moderate Dem and am glad someone without marginal social views is in the ring.

If neither Beto nor Biden enters the race, she could have the moderate lane all to herself, which would be a great place to be.

let the others squabble over PC things and divide the activist vote - Klobuchar should talk about what most people want America to be, and cruise through Iowa and NH.

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Runningart2004 wrote:

Yep....and if 20 polls find his approval under 40% but one find his approval over 50% then those 20 polls are the outliers....

Interesting to point out, Rasmussen is one of the only polls to use “Likely Voters” vs “Registered Voters” or “Adults”.

Not sure how that factors in.

Alan

It factors, big time. Polls which use likely voters are much more accurate than those which use registered voters. I mentioned this a few months ago.

ok but you thought the polls were wrong before midterms, while they nailed it perfectly. 538's prediction was almost exactly right that the dems were most likely to pick up 40 seats and they did.

for the record, right now the best guess is that mueller is looking at manafort - did he make a deal with russian intelligence to hand over polling data for russki trolls to use...in exchange for easing sanctions on russia and NATO backing off ukraine.

we know manafort owed russians massively, that manafort had no money, was working for nothing, and that he probably gave russian intellience internal polling data from the trump campaign.

Did trump know about it? That seems to be the #1 question. Odds are that trump did not know, since he is a moran, but it's not clear.

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Runningart2004 wrote:

Yep....and if 20 polls find his approval under 40% but one find his approval over 50% then those 20 polls are the outliers....

Interesting to point out, Rasmussen is one of the only polls to use “Likely Voters” vs “Registered Voters” or “Adults”.

Not sure how that factors in.

Alan

It factors, big time. Polls which use likely voters are much more accurate than those which use registered voters. I mentioned this a few months ago.

538 takes that all into account. I'm sure other aggregators do as well. Rasmussen gets a C+ rating from 538 because it doesn't do as good a job of predicting outcomes.

Runningart2004 wrote:

0/10 wrote:

0/10

Both 538 and RealClear Politics are poll aggregators. That means they both include Rasmussen's high numbers--which Trumper favor--as part of a weighted rating. Rasmussen is a singular poll.

Yep....and if 20 polls find his approval under 40% but one find his approval over 50% then those 20 polls are the outliers....

Interesting to point out, Rasmussen is one of the only polls to use “Likely Voters” vs “Registered Voters” or “Adults”.

Not sure how that factors in.

Alan

When it comes to presidential election polls, the most accurate ones are:

IBD/TIPP

Norpoth Primary Model

CafePress Cultural Barometer (100% correct prediction record)

13 Keys (not really a poll, but Clownpole swore by it until it went against Cankles)