jesseriley wrote:
One less scandal: State/Union is OFF
It was never a SOTU speech. It can only be a SOTU speech if set up by the House of Representatives. Former Speaker of the House Boehner cancelled/delayed Obama's SOTU speech due to "security concerns" several years ago--political payback in actuality.
What Trump was calling his private SOTU speech was going to be nothing more than a Trump infomercial intended to further inflame his base of rabid minions.
IF this reporting is accurate, not only that Cohen says he is receiving threats from Trump and Giuliani, but that it can be proven that they actually have done that (Trump already did so live on Fox News with Pirro), then he should have a charge of witness tampering and/or obstruction of justice right now.
IF true, this is evidence that he is really backed into a corner.
Flagpole wrote:
IF this reporting is accurate, not only that Cohen says he is receiving threats from Trump and Giuliani, but that it can be proven that they actually have done that (Trump already did so live on Fox News with Pirro), then he should have a charge of witness tampering and/or obstruction of justice right now.
IF true, this is evidence that he is really backed into a corner.
It's not accurate. You're a biased liberal grasping for straws. Last year it was any month now he'll be impeached, you'll see. Now you're amped up on Cheerios praying for a miracle because your side lost. You're delusional to a scary level. It's like you want him to fail so you can say "see, I told ya" as if you've got some special insight that those in Washington D.C. don't have. Get a life already.
Flagpole wrote:
IF this reporting is accurate, not only that Cohen says he is receiving threats from Trump and Giuliani, but that it can be proven that they actually have done that (Trump already did so live on Fox News with Pirro), then he should have a charge of witness tampering and/or obstruction of justice right now.
IF true, this is evidence that he is really backed into a corner.
Very soon, Trump's wall of ego will disappear as a cause. The government will reopen. And Trump will "work" full-time tweeting in anger as more is exposed about his business dealings.
The House needs to get a hold of Trump's tax returns and release them to the public. That will keep Trump entertained with Tweets for quit some time.
Someone posted, on this thread or another one, that a president who resigns gets a full pension, plus associated benefits. But, of a president is impeached they lose the pension and benefits. That is something to keep in mind about Trump decides to proceed with the collapse of his Russian-purchased presidency.
PIO!! wrote:
PIO!! wrote:
Was anyone supposed to be paying attention to your posts?
Huh? :-(
I was paying attention to my own posts.
They read every post of mine. Responding doesn't mean anything, they read them all, that's what counts;)
Signed,
The Original PIO!, now PIO!!
Re Ports wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Ridiculous. Every major news outlet right now other than FOX is reporting this. Could it be wrong? Of course. We shall see. I have no agenda other than the truth and that justice be served. Fox News has shown (with few exceptions that I have listed before) that it doesn't not tell the truth and doesn't care about justice.
Ummm . . . you were saying something about "Is English your second language?" ?!?
Or should I say, "you weren't not saying?"
Mine was a typo. Yours was a question that called into question your understanding of the English language.
Witness tampering is a federal crime and it does apply to witnesses before congress. If this really happened, Cohen should file a criminal complaint against Tiny and Giuliani. BTW, here is the federal statute
(b) Whoever knowingly uses intimidation, threatens, or corruptly persuades another person, or attempts to do so, or engages in misleading conduct toward another person, with intent to—
(1) influence, delay, or prevent the testimony of any person in an official proceeding;
(2) cause or induce any person to—
(A) withhold testimony, or withhold a record, document, or other object, from an official proceeding;
(B) alter, destroy, mutilate, or conceal an object with intent to impair the object’s integrity or availability for use in an official proceeding;
(C) evade legal process summoning that person to appear as a witness, or to produce a record, document, or other object, in an official proceeding; or
(D) be absent from an official proceeding to which such person has been summoned by legal process; or
(3) hinder, delay, or prevent the communication to a law enforcement officer or judge of the United States of information relating to the commission or possible commission of a Federal offense or a violation of conditions of probation [1] supervised release,,[1] parole, or release pending judicial proceedings;
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.
This is just one of the many ways to send Tiny to prison.
Cornered rat on the sinking Trumptanic wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
IF this reporting is accurate, not only that Cohen says he is receiving threats from Trump and Giuliani, but that it can be proven that they actually have done that (Trump already did so live on Fox News with Pirro), then he should have a charge of witness tampering and/or obstruction of justice right now.
IF true, this is evidence that he is really backed into a corner.
Very soon, Trump's wall of ego will disappear as a cause. The government will reopen. And Trump will "work" full-time tweeting in anger as more is exposed about his business dealings.
The House needs to get a hold of Trump's tax returns and release them to the public. That will keep Trump entertained with Tweets for quit some time.
Someone posted, on this thread or another one, that a president who resigns gets a full pension, plus associated benefits. But, of a president is impeached they lose the pension and benefits. That is something to keep in mind about Trump decides to proceed with the collapse of his Russian-purchased presidency.
Yep, any day now...YAWN! It's been 2 years, you knuckleheads can't get a hint.
Fat hurts wrote:
Witness tampering is a federal crime and it does apply to witnesses before congress.
If this really happened, Cohen should file a criminal complaint against Tiny and Giuliani.
BTW, here is the federal statute
(b) Whoever knowingly uses intimidation, threatens, or corruptly persuades another person, or attempts to do so, or engages in misleading conduct toward another person, with intent to—
(1) influence, delay, or prevent the testimony of any person in an official proceeding;
(2) cause or induce any person to—
(A) withhold testimony, or withhold a record, document, or other object, from an official proceeding;
(B) alter, destroy, mutilate, or conceal an object with intent to impair the object’s integrity or availability for use in an official proceeding;
(C) evade legal process summoning that person to appear as a witness, or to produce a record, document, or other object, in an official proceeding; or
(D) be absent from an official proceeding to which such person has been summoned by legal process; or
(3) hinder, delay, or prevent the communication to a law enforcement officer or judge of the United States of information relating to the commission or possible commission of a Federal offense or a violation of conditions of probation [1] supervised release,,[1] parole, or release pending judicial proceedings;
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.
This is just one of the many ways to send Tiny to prison.
Says Tiny himself. Insecure much Fat Hurts? Grow up, he's the President of the United States. Or better yet, move.
PIO!v1.1 wrote:
jesseriley wrote:
One less scandal: State/Union is OFF
It was never a SOTU speech. It can only be a SOTU speech if set up by the House of Representatives. Former Speaker of the House Boehner cancelled/delayed Obama's SOTU speech due to "security concerns" several years ago--political payback in actuality.
What Trump was calling his private SOTU speech was going to be nothing more than a Trump infomercial intended to further inflame his base of rabid minions.
this tit for tat SOTU game is ridiculous and unbecoming. We need to hold on to the center, not toss normalcy aside
Flagpole wrote:
IF this reporting is accurate,
It's not accurate. Cohen is a serial and CONVICTED liar. Why would anyone believe his words?
agip wrote:
PIO!v1.1 wrote:
It was never a SOTU speech. It can only be a SOTU speech if set up by the House of Representatives. Former Speaker of the House Boehner cancelled/delayed Obama's SOTU speech due to "security concerns" several years ago--political payback in actuality.
What Trump was calling his private SOTU speech was going to be nothing more than a Trump infomercial intended to further inflame his base of rabid minions.
this tit for tat SOTU game is ridiculous and unbecoming. We need to hold on to the center, not toss normalcy aside
For a start, how about forcing the House Speaker and Senate Speaker to put ALL resolutions up for a vote. No more the games McConnell is playing by refusing to allow vote to be taken.
Flagpole is off his Rocker!!!! wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
IF this reporting is accurate, not only that Cohen says he is receiving threats from Trump and Giuliani, but that it can be proven that they actually have done that (Trump already did so live on Fox News with Pirro), then he should have a charge of witness tampering and/or obstruction of justice right now.
IF true, this is evidence that he is really backed into a corner.
It's not accurate. You're a biased liberal grasping for straws. Last year it was any month now he'll be impeached, you'll see. Now you're amped up on Cheerios praying for a miracle because your side lost. You're delusional to a scary level. It's like you want him to fail so you can say "see, I told ya" as if you've got some special insight that those in Washington D.C. don't have. Get a life already.
[sigh]
1) We will see to what Cohen is referring. I think what we know is enough...Trump's comments to Pirro on the air about Cohen's father in law and then Giuliani's comments on CNN regarding the same. This is witness intimidation, so witness tampering and likely obstruction of justice. Just hurts Trump MORE that Cohen has decided not to voluntarily testify.
2) Hardly grasping at anything. So much evidence that we already know of even though Mueller is SUPER SECRET that shows that Trump is a criminal.
3) I don't need to want him to fail. He already has. No wall. Mexico not paying for crap, hundreds of thousands of workers without pay due just to him, many of them losing their support for him. Hillary not locked up. Trump committing crimes right out in the open, and already fingered for FELONY campaign finance violations as well as showing that he sure knows how to hire criminals.
4) I don't have any special insight into Washington and never claimed to. I just see how this is all going. Trump is a serial liar and a criminal, and he is going to prison.
5) The "get a life" comment is stupid, so I won't comment on it other than that.
6) I would ask you how you know the reporting is not accurate, but I don't care what you think, so that's why I'm not asking. Say something in the future that makes me interested in your opinion and I might ask you a question. For now, you are not worthy of a question, so you just deserve knowledge being thrown your way. We shall see what you are capable of doing with it.
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
Flagpole wrote:
IF this reporting is accurate, not only that Cohen says he is receiving threats from Trump and Giuliani, but that it can be proven that they actually have done that (Trump already did so live on Fox News with Pirro), then he should have a charge of witness tampering and/or obstruction of justice right now.
IF true, this is evidence that he is really backed into a corner.
CORRECT!
IF Trump shot a man just to watch him die, he should have a charge of murder.
Make America Great Again wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
IF this reporting is accurate,
It's not accurate. Cohen is a serial and CONVICTED liar. Why would anyone believe his words?
Which proves Flagpole has a personal vendetta against the President and that Flagpole is extremely biased. Post something from Fox, it's fake. Post it from his source, it's real. How stupid is this guy? Please stay out of Colorado, we don't want your kind here. You have no objectivity. Your bias is crystal clear.
Yes Sir! wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
IF this reporting is accurate, not only that Cohen says he is receiving threats from Trump and Giuliani, but that it can be proven that they actually have done that (Trump already did so live on Fox News with Pirro), then he should have a charge of witness tampering and/or obstruction of justice right now.
IF true, this is evidence that he is really backed into a corner.
CORRECT!
IF Trump shot a man just to watch him die, he should have a charge of murder.
Wow, let's deal in reality now. You lefty extremist are whack jobs!
Flagpole wrote:
Flagpole is off his Rocker!!!! wrote:
It's not accurate. You're a biased liberal grasping for straws. Last year it was any month now he'll be impeached, you'll see. Now you're amped up on Cheerios praying for a miracle because your side lost. You're delusional to a scary level. It's like you want him to fail so you can say "see, I told ya" as if you've got some special insight that those in Washington D.C. don't have. Get a life already.
Your post was so full of crap that I forgot to respond to one thing. I have NEVER said that he would be impeached any month now. I have ONLY said that he will not finish his term.
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
Speaker of the Turtle wrote:
agip wrote:
this tit for tat SOTU game is ridiculous and unbecoming. We need to hold on to the center, not toss normalcy aside
For a start, how about forcing the House Speaker and Senate Speaker to put ALL resolutions up for a vote. No more the games McConnell is playing by refusing to allow vote to be taken.
I believe there is a way for either or both members of the house and senate to bring bills to the floor without the speaker or majority leader's permission.
forgot which chamber it is and need to work.
Make America Great Again wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
IF this reporting is accurate,
It's not accurate. Cohen is a serial and CONVICTED liar. Why would anyone believe his words?
Good Lord dude. With his dealings with Mueller, he supposedly has corroboration for many things. With regard to the threats to his family, both Trump and Giuliani did so on broadcast television. Now, could there be more things? Maybe. Can we believe him on those? Well, he would likely need some proof other than just his word.
agip wrote:
Speaker of the Turtle wrote:
For a start, how about forcing the House Speaker and Senate Speaker to put ALL resolutions up for a vote. No more the games McConnell is playing by refusing to allow vote to be taken.
I believe there is a way for either or both members of the house and senate to bring bills to the floor without the speaker or majority leader's permission.
forgot which chamber it is and need to work.
Yes, there is a way to do it in both houses.
In the senate, any member can bring a bill to the floor. It's extremely rare, but Tim Kaine tried to use this procedure just last week to reopen the government. McConell objected and it went no further.
In the house, you need to get a discharge petition signed by an absolute majority of members.
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