The Wall between us & Slovenia isn’t working...
The Wall between us & Slovenia isn’t working...
asian r reallly hot wrote:
agip wrote:
well keep trying then. It does require some knowledge, judgment and awareness of American history. I'm confident that if you work at it you will understand it. Keep at it! Chin up! Setbacks will fade!
As I figured, an answer about nothing.
I am fine no worries bout me, unless oh yeah, till we have another 4 thousand killed and millions of more crimes that may happen to you or someone you love (which I know a few people).
But sure, head in the sand is always the best way to look at things.
look man, all you have to do is some reading to at least understand the other side. It's really easy. Google is a wonderful tool. But from what you have written so far, all you do is repeat m@ga-isms with zero thinking or knowledge of history. So I don't think you are worth the time.
I'll say this: Trump's view that there is a crisis on the southern border is just to focus people like you and deflect from his disastrous presidency. If he really wanted the wall he could have it. He already turned out large dollars of funding for it. He doesn't want the wall, because he knows it's stupid and useless. What he wants is to be appearing to fight for the wall, because that gets the red hats all jazzed up.
So go on, believing the guy who has lied to you thousands of times already. Or go do some research on your own. But don't go calling Dems like me unreasonable or not understandable. You are being played and lied to. We're being reasonable and fact based.
jesseriley wrote:
Melania was an illegal immigrant (overstayed tourist visa to model). We can’t wait for the Senate to confirm a replacement, Don should just appoint an Acting Love Interest.
Yeah, and ton's of rich people get special treatment including black, Asian whoever, what's your point? This has nothing to do with the wall and just silly to bring up.
dkty6 wrote:
Mueller’s rain of terror coming to an end! wrote:
Our long national nightmare will end soon!
I doubt it. I think Mueller has a *long* way to go. This case is like a hydra: There are probably now more avenues to be investigated than anyone had imagined when Mueller was getting started. For one example, the Manafort data transfer to Russia--while extraordinarily significant (more than some people seem to grasp)--is going to open up more trails that need to be examined.
Which I'm fine with. I agree with others who've said that the best thing for the USA, its citizens, and the world will be for President Trump to serve his full four years and simply be voted out in 2020.
. . . NOT that that's a given. I also agree with others who've said he stands a solid chance at being re-elected.
Trump will resign or be ousted before the 2020 election.
agip wrote:
look man, all you have to do is some reading to at least understand the other side. It's really easy. Google is a wonderful tool. But from what you have written so far, all you do is repeat m@ga-isms with zero thinking or knowledge of history. So I don't think you are worth the time.
I'll say this: Trump's view that there is a crisis on the southern border is just to focus people like you and deflect from his disastrous presidency. If he really wanted the wall he could have it. He already turned out large dollars of funding for it. He doesn't want the wall, because he knows it's stupid and useless. What he wants is to be appearing to fight for the wall, because that gets the red hats all jazzed up.
So go on, believing the guy who has lied to you thousands of times already. Or go do some research on your own. But don't go calling Dems like me unreasonable or not understandable. You are being played and lied to. We're being reasonable and fact based.
Again a no answer answer. If you want to preach the preach, don't say, google, thats pointless and might as well not reply.
And Trump knows that without a wall, he won't get elected again, so YES, I do believe he wants a wall for that reason alone. That is why he got elected in the first place.
And yes, I am very much left on a lot of issues, but on this issue, they are freaking stupid.
PS - History has nothing to do with right now, whatever you mean by that. If you want to bring up immigration from 100 years ago, we can, but I hope you don't think that is relevant now.
If you don't have a response, then stop being condescending and dont reply.
Completely out of touch with patriotic Americans. Democrats lose again!!!!
Resign. You get to keep the pension...
Flagpole wrote:
Trump will resign or be ousted before the 2020 election.
WTH! Trump is the most egomaniac person there is. You think he will quit? You could do anything to him and he will still think he is the greatest. So that is stupid to think he will resign.
If he is ousted, on what?! That crap won't ever happen again. And the Russia crap aint happening. Why the hell they are still investigating that 2 years later is silly as hell.
Politicians are much smarter / sneakier now than back during Nixon.
Yeah, don’t reply because no one talks back in Russia
asian r reallly hot wrote:
agip wrote:
illegal immigrants can't vote and don't vote. So enough of that moranitude, please.
Illegal immigration fell all through Obama's presidency - are you not aware of that? it's all generational lows.
Walls work, sure. The Dem position is that an ocean to gulf wall, involving billions of dollars of emininent domain, and going against what the locals in texas want, environmentally disastrous, and virtually impossible to build...is a stupid waste of money. You, on the other hand, think that eminent domain is good, going against the wishes of locals on the border is good, wrecking border environment is good, and somehow the engineering will work out.
Stop listening to trump - he doesn't deal in reality.
I really don't understand why people don't get this.
Really, they dont vote huh...tell that to the Reagan amnesty illegals or the children born here illegally that are citizens, or I am sure the dreamers or the future acts of legislation that for sure the Democrats will try to push though until it is stopped.
I didn't notice that tons and tons of boats from Mexico coming. I missed that. And if they do come, it won't be in the millions like now.
We are spending billions of dollars on illegals right now in prison. RIGHT NOW. Not including the incredible amount of money they get in social benefits, free schooling and healthcare.
Regardless of freaking money, the thousands of lives and millions of crimes committed to Americans for no reason. If you don't think saving a few thousand lives is worth the small piece of land a landowner has to give up then again,
People are still sad about 9/11, when we lost 4K, but yet when illegals kill 4K, something we could put a huge dent into, it is about the money. And what is really funny, freaking government will needlessly spend money no matter what, at least this will have an actual benefit that can be tangible.
I just don't understand why people don't get this.
Additional mileage to the already 700-mile barrier will do nothing to keep illegal immigrants out. It's the same as if I wanted to get from point A to point B but the way I normally go now has a closed road. I then have to choose a different way to get there. How many tunnels have been found? How many ladders (rope and metal) have been found along the current border barrier? We only hear about illegal immigrants packed into a box truck that went through a legal port of entry when many of them died due to heat and/or lack of oxygen.
There would be no tangible benefit. A stupid wall would ONLY be a symbol of keeping brown people out.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/NsHbh2LO_Bk/maxresdefault.jpghttps://brightcove04pmdo-a.akamaihd.net/4221396001/4221396001_5636713683001_5636702123001-vs.jpg?pubId=4221396001&videoId=5636702123001Improved technology...more border agents...stiffer penalties for people who hire illegal workers...that's how you tackle illegal immigration.
Really, all you need to do is greatly increase penalties for hiring illegal workers...$500,000 per instance AND serious prison time for the FIRST INSTANCE. Trump won't suggest that though because that demonizes the people who hire them, instead of demonizing them.
"The Wall" is a stupid idea. YOU need to get that.
asian r reallly hot wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Trump will resign or be ousted before the 2020 election.
WTH! Trump is the most egomaniac person there is. You think he will quit? You could do anything to him and he will still think he is the greatest. So that is stupid to think he will resign.
If he is ousted, on what?! That crap won't ever happen again. And the Russia crap aint happening. Why the hell they are still investigating that 2 years later is silly as hell.
Politicians are much smarter / sneakier now than back during Nixon.
If resignation in some way is his best option (respected lawyers have suggested he could make a plea deal that includes his resignation), then he will do that. Actually it's a good way for him to still be able to blast the media and whomever else if he resigns rather than is ousted by the Senate.
The rest of your post is loony and delusional.
what we need to do is build up the economies of central America and Mexico - if we'd help them build their economies so they didn't have to come here to work, the illegal immigration would stop.
that, and americans need to stop taking so many drugs. Our drug habits are destroying nations. Our bad, sorry. If the drug demand stops, the supply over the border stops.
either you're one of the regular trolls, or you're new here and REALLY fired up about this wall thing. bottom line, $5B is nothing in funding the "wall". tiny can't go on tv, or shut down the government every month to get installments on his "wall". he knows that, and knows he needs to be perceived as fighting for his "wall". this "wall" fight is his current, "let me direct your attention to the ring on your right while the clapping seals juggle knives." there are bigger things happening right now, he knows that and he is using the shutdown and the wall to get you mad, dems know that. you don't.
asian r reallly hot wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Trump will resign or be ousted before the 2020 election.
WTH! Trump is the most egomaniac person there is. You think he will quit? You could do anything to him and he will still think he is the greatest. So that is stupid to think he will resign.
If he is ousted, on what?! That crap won't ever happen again. And the Russia crap aint happening. Why the hell they are still investigating that 2 years later is silly as hell.
Politicians are much smarter / sneakier now than back during Nixon.
Flagpole wrote:
Additional mileage to the already 700-mile barrier will do nothing to keep illegal immigrants out. It's the same as if I wanted to get from point A to point B but the way I normally go now has a closed road. I then have to choose a different way to get there. How many tunnels have been found? How many ladders (rope and metal) have been found along the current border barrier? We only hear about illegal immigrants packed into a box truck that went through a legal port of entry when many of them died due to heat and/or lack of oxygen.
There would be no tangible benefit. A stupid wall would ONLY be a symbol of keeping brown people out.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/NsHbh2LO_Bk/maxresdefault.jpghttps://brightcove04pmdo-a.akamaihd.net/4221396001/4221396001_5636713683001_5636702123001-vs.jpg?pubId=4221396001&videoId=5636702123001Improved technology...more border agents...stiffer penalties for people who hire illegal workers...that's how you tackle illegal immigration.
Really, all you need to do is greatly increase penalties for hiring illegal workers...$500,000 per instance AND serious prison time for the FIRST INSTANCE. Trump won't suggest that though because that demonizes the people who hire them, instead of demonizing them.
"The Wall" is a stupid idea. YOU need to get that.
First of all, the tangible benefit is that people who are in the country legally. Second, is that there is nothing worse than someone being murdered or robbed or raped by someone who shouldn't even be there in the first place.
And funny you bring up the brown people issue. Every freaking visa law we have in this country is trying to bring in more brown, black whatever other than white people. But yeah, it's about racism, dang. That has nothing to do with illegals or the wall. The wall is to keep out people who are not supposed to be here, like every place ever wants!
Yes, all of these things "Improved technology...more border agents...stiffer penalties for people who hire illegal workers...that's how you tackle illegal immigration" are great, let's do it! Again, nothing to do with the wall. The wall is the first line of defense. Like Israel, do it right, and it will work.
And the way to do the wall is the way the Israelis did it. I agree. The only reason why he is doing this stupid fence idea is cause the stupid Dems are fighting against it over and over again and he is trying to compromise!
This is what I mean, Trump tries to compromise by having a fence, but he gets blamed and not the Dems cause they keep blocking any funding for a real wall.
Walls work and are a good idea if you didn't have the stupid dems fighting for more votes.
The only effective wall is between don & reality...
[quote]asians r not REALLY hot wrote:
either you're one of the regular trolls, or you're new here and REALLY fired up about this wall thing. bottom line, $5B is nothing in funding the "wall". tiny can't go on tv, or shut down the government every month to get installments on his "wall". he knows that, and knows he needs to be perceived as fighting for his "wall".
this "wall" fight is his current, "let me direct your attention to the ring on your right while the clapping seals juggle knives." there are bigger things happening right now, he knows that and he is using the shutdown and the wall to get you mad, dems know that. you don't.
[quote]asian r reallly hot wrote:
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Dude or dudet, don't use my name, that's confusing, and you are dumb if you think Asians are not hot!
Not sure but people who believe millions of crimes and thousands of murders are ok are the trolls here. Any rape or murder at the hands of someone who wasn't allowed in the country, is something that should never happen.
The shutdown is cause he know he won't get reelected if he doesn't get this done. That is only reason why he was elected.
And the "there are bigger things" crap. What does that have to do with anything. You fix what you can. Period.
Although it apparently isn’t keeping the drugs out...
asian r reallly hot wrote:
agip wrote:
look man, all you have to do is some reading to at least understand the other side. It's really easy. Google is a wonderful tool. But from what you have written so far, all you do is repeat m@ga-isms with zero thinking or knowledge of history. So I don't think you are worth the time.
I'll say this: Trump's view that there is a crisis on the southern border is just to focus people like you and deflect from his disastrous presidency. If he really wanted the wall he could have it. He already turned out large dollars of funding for it. He doesn't want the wall, because he knows it's stupid and useless. What he wants is to be appearing to fight for the wall, because that gets the red hats all jazzed up.
So go on, believing the guy who has lied to you thousands of times already. Or go do some research on your own. But don't go calling Dems like me unreasonable or not understandable. You are being played and lied to. We're being reasonable and fact based.
Again a no answer answer. If you want to preach the preach, don't say, google, thats pointless and might as well not reply.
And Trump knows that without a wall, he won't get elected again, so YES, I do believe he wants a wall for that reason alone. That is why he got elected in the first place.
And yes, I am very much left on a lot of issues, but on this issue, they are freaking stupid.
PS - History has nothing to do with right now, whatever you mean by that. If you want to bring up immigration from 100 years ago, we can, but I hope you don't think that is relevant now.
If you don't have a response, then stop being condescending and dont reply.
here is your first reading assignment! Have fun, man. You'll be a democrat in 6 weeks. (not. I'm under no impression that any m@gahead will ever change her mind about anything)
Here, showing that building the wall costs the nation a fortune and doesn't stop the illegal immigration.
"Their conclusion? It would hurt the U.S. economy because there would be fewer workers and lower output. It would also have a tiny impact on illegal immigration, and U.S. workers wouldn’t be better off."
"“Our research shows that building a wall was an ineffective way of reducing migration,” Allen said after presenting the new research paper this weekend at the American Economic Association conference. “It was expensive to build, and it harmed U.S. workers.”
"Expanding the wall would reduce the number of Mexican workers in the United States by 144,000 — about 1 percent — the economists found after extensive modeling and data analysis."
"“This suggests that for each fewer migrant in the United States as a result of the Secure Fence Act, GDP declined by $30,000 (in addition to the direct costs of wall construction),” the economists wrote."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/01/08/three-economists-ran-numbers-trumps-border-wall-they-find-its-bad-investment/?utm_term=.c1abb4583a5fagip wrote:
what we need to do is build up the economies of central America and Mexico - if we'd help them build their economies so they didn't have to come here to work, the illegal immigration would stop.
that, and americans need to stop taking so many drugs. Our drug habits are destroying nations. Our bad, sorry. If the drug demand stops, the supply over the border stops.
Wow, you think America can build up a whole continent? By the time that could even possibly happen, American will be 90% from the South/Central America. It would take the next 100 years to build up a whole continent. if ever!
But more importantly by then, a good million Americans would be dead, raped, robbed by people who should never be here.
And I think drugs should be legal. All drugs. The only reason why these countries have such a hard time getting ahead, other than a shitty culture, is cause they keep fighting something that cant be won. It only takes lives and ruins the country to fight it. But enough about that crap.
And by the way, the people down south love their drugs too. So don't make it like this wouldn't be a problem regardless of the US.
jesseriley wrote:
The only effective wall is between don & reality...
Yep. I won't be discussing any more with any nuts who believe this stupid wall is effective in any way.
