In the now wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
But you won't want to. An electric SUV will be far superior.
Are electric SUVs and pick up trucks better vehicles now?
And they cost the same without govt incentives?
As compared to all the incentives gasoline car makers have enjoyed for 100 years?
Tired of the liars wrote:
Tired of the liars wrote:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/10/us/politics/maria-butina-russia-nra.htmlflagpole and his followers, the real liars. major jail time coming, but not for trump...tick, tick, tick...
backpeddler flagpole knows he's wrong now, no impeachment and no resignation.
the biggest failure flop prediction in letsrun history. wow!
I have not backpedaled on anything. I challenge you to show proof of that.
Impeachment is coming for sure, and then either conviction and removal or resignation for The Orange One.
The Trump Organization is now referred to daily as a "criminal enterprise" and there are no calls from Trump to sue, and no denials. He is caught. The whole grifter family is going down.
The level of ignorance shown in this thread regarding how the press and how an investigation like this one both work is astounding.
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done. And for the record, this is playing out exactly as I saw it coming over a year ago...smaller fish...smaller crimes...leading to bigger fish and bigger crimes. This is how it always goes, so it should not be a surprise. The disconnect for many of you (Trumpers and non-Trumpers alike) is either that you couldn't see that Trump was indeed a criminal or that he was indeed this big of a criminal. Well, he is. Criminal. Incompetent. Amoral a$$hole.
Clinton Trump wrote:
Trump Clinton wrote:
What does to tell you: Trump donated money to Bill and Hillary Clinton. Ivanka, his favorite, is a Democrat. Trump said in 2008: "Hillary would make a GREAT president!"
And Hillary said GREAT things about Donald Trump back then. Your point? It's called politics, do try to stay up or you'll get run over like Flagpole does all the time.
Hey, a**hole! I was pointing out that author of my link WAS a democrat. There is nothing he can do to erase that shame.
Order of magnitude wrote:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/45/Usesofpetroleum.pngRacket wrote:
Need oil for synthetic fibers and plastics too so it's coming up out of the ground regardless.
Good point. Gonna go buy an electric car right now
And the biggest liar is... wrote:
Tired of the liars wrote:
.... the real liars...!
Come on. You have to know Trump is a compulsive liar, right? You can’t actually say you value honesty and then say you support Trump. You can support Trump all you like, but, that necessarily means you don’t give a sh*t about truth, you just like his message. Which is fine.
I do love how he has swiveled his story of cheating on his wife with porn star and paying her off to be a “business transaction”. Beautiful. I would like to hear him explaing that to his wife, and I bet she’s not pretended he’s an honest man.
Anyway, you can’t be “tired of liars” and support the biggest liar, it just makes you sound like a fool.
It is increasingly clear that Trump and Melania also have a "business transaction". She can't possibly love that man.
Racket wrote:
Oh by the way, China detained a Canadian diplomat in retaliation for Canada holding the Huawei CFO on behalf of the US. In case you missed it, she sold tech to the Iranians through a shell company. How will Trump respond? Tune in next week to find out what our meme of a president does to further reduce our status and reputation on the world stage!
LOL . . . a Chinese company is beholden to US imposed sanctions. When will Trump make China a new state of 'Merica?
Fat hurts wrote:
I'll beat you off the line every time.
If that's a challenge then I'll see you at the next red light
Runningart2004 wrote:
Trump won’t be impeached and it’s not even a legitimate question at this point. It doesn’t matter what he did. Conspiracy with Russia, obstruction, campaign finance violations....it simply won’t matter to a vast majority of Republicans both in office and at home. Why? Because Trump is a rubber stamp for their agenda and he gets the votes out like no Republican since Reagan. Now it might not be those lovely Reagan Democrats but a vote is a vote. I think the view of Orrin Hatch is the predominate view....who cares, the economy is doing well and our agenda is going forward. Be damned the Constitution and the Oath I took...
Unless we get a Nixonian Saturday Night with a smoking gun we are all just spinning our wheels for intellectual discourse.
He has 0 chance in 2020 though. I just can’t see how taking 46% wins enough electoral votes in 2020 when WI and MI are going to be out of play. “Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice....” PA decides it most likely. There may even be losses elsewhere if 2018 was any indication. There’s just too much negativity and no Ross Perot to bail him out.
Alan
Trump will not win FL, AZ or NV. He will suffer a bigly EC defeat, and another yuge popular vote loss. But, he will still run because he will make a lot of money from renting his properties, and providing 'CONsulting' services to his campaign; fleecing his donors, and the RNC.
That dress though wrote:
Runningart2004 wrote:
I’m aware. It would be rather stupid to impeach when you know he won’t be convicted. It’s all just political theater at that point to please a base. F that noise.
Alan
Do you likewise believe the impeachment of Bill Clinton was just political theater? I disagree with you; an impeachment, even without a subsequent conviction, can be very damaging. I’m not saying I support one against Trump, just that the potential inability to convict in the senate is not a reason to refuse to impeach. It actually undermines the entire process if you skip ahead to guess what the senate may do as a determination of whether to seek to impeach or not.
This is exactly right.
We all need to look also though at what is the RIGHT thing to do, not just the politically beneficial thing to do. Trump is going to be implicated in a myriad of crimes, but just regarding the FELONY campaign finance ones, Michael Cohen is going to spend time in prison for doing that at the direction of Trump, and Michael Cohen is then labeled a felon. So, we are saying then that Trump has no repercussions for that? We are flat out admitting that a President is above the law? That is not right. It is clear by the very nature of the DOJ policy not to indict a sitting President that he is above the law, but we don't need to chisel that in granite by not taking the one action we do have against him...impeachment.
I am not calling for this, but I will not be surprised (well, maybe a LITTLE surprised) if he is indicted while still in office. That would be interesting and would ensure impeachment and conviction.
That dress though wrote:
Runningart2004 wrote:
I’m aware. It would be rather stupid to impeach when you know he won’t be convicted. It’s all just political theater at that point to please a base. F that noise.
Alan
Do you likewise believe the impeachment of Bill Clinton was just political theater? I disagree with you; an impeachment, even without a subsequent conviction, can be very damaging. I’m not saying I support one against Trump, just that the potential inability to convict in the senate is not a reason to refuse to impeach. It actually undermines the entire process if you skip ahead to guess what the senate may do as a determination of whether to seek to impeach or not.
Impeachment also means that Trump will learn that he under constraint. He will no longer have the luxury to do almost as he pleases that the Republican House has done. The 'greatest' business man of all time will have to negotiate to get anything done--meaning he will have to give-and-take. Trump does not understand that so he will further implode.
That dress though wrote:
Runningart2004 wrote:
I’m aware. It would be rather stupid to impeach when you know he won’t be convicted. It’s all just political theater at that point to please a base. F that noise.
Alan
Do you likewise believe the impeachment of Bill Clinton was just political theater?
It was 100% political theater by Republicans looking for revenge over Nixon. They tried to get Clinton on freakin' Christmas cards.
Fat hurts wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
What EV do you have?
Chevy Bolt EV
Cool. Thanks for answering.
Racket wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
I'll beat you off the line every time.
If that's a challenge then I'll see you at the next red light
Looking forward to it. Should be fun. I love shaming muscle cars in my EV hatchback.
That dress though wrote:
Runningart2004 wrote:
I’m aware. It would be rather stupid to impeach when you know he won’t be convicted. It’s all just political theater at that point to please a base. F that noise.
Alan
Do you likewise believe the impeachment of Bill Clinton was just political theater? I disagree with you; an impeachment, even without a subsequent conviction, can be very damaging. I’m not saying I support one against Trump, just that the potential inability to convict in the senate is not a reason to refuse to impeach. It actually undermines the entire process if you skip ahead to guess what the senate may do as a determination of whether to seek to impeach or not.
What is the purpose of impeachment? To damage someone politically? No.
Are the hands of the House tied when it comes to impeachment? Or must they make a politically motivated decision based on the facts and intended end result?
Again I ask what is the purpose of impeachment?
I think Johnson’s impeachment by the House was unwarranted. Nixon’s was warranted. Clinton’s unwarranted. Trump TBD.
It will depend on if Mueller has a Nixonian smoking gun.
Our political process has devolved into a ruined tribal system with everyone out for their own benefit or their party so it’s already undermined. In a previous generation where Congressmen actually took their oath seriously then yes I would say impeachment could be justified, but that is not the world we live in.
Watch the polls. If he’s impeached by the House his numbers still won’t fall below the low 40s.
Alan
Racket wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
I'll beat you off the line every time.
If that's a challenge then I'll see you at the next red light
You will lose in your gas car against his Chevy Bolt, and it won't even be close.
43700
“What kind of an amoral ideologue still supports a politician who has had FIVE campaign officials plead guilty to federal charges?” - agip
Flagpole wrote:
Racket wrote:
If that's a challenge then I'll see you at the next red light
You will lose in your gas car against his Chevy Bolt, and it won't even be close.
Without a doubt
Racket wrote:
STSBO wrote:
Hate really isn't a good look for anyone. It makes anyone who falls from grace into hatred look like a complete idiot with irrational positions on any matter that rubs up against their hatred. See the Trumpettes for examples of why you should really try to avoid it.
Wow I bet you're fun at parties.
Ooh, I LOVE that reply. So clever!
How's that border thing going, Trump?
The Trump administration paid $13.6 million to a private company this year to increase border protection staffing by just two agents.
... as of October 1, 2018 — 10 months into the contract — CBP [US Customs and Border Protection Agency] has paid Accenture approximately $13.6 million for startup costs, security requirements, recruiting, and applicant support. In return, Accenture has processed two accepted job offers.
See page 3, the last two sentences of the 3rd paragraph.
https://www.oig.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/assets/2018-12/OIG-19-13-Nov18.pdf
Is there a rule against attaching a helium balloon to yourself while running a road race?
Am I living in the twilight zone? The Boston Marathon weather was terrible!
How rare is it to run a sub 5 minute mile AND bench press 225?
Move over Mark Coogan, Rojo and John Kellogg share their 3 favorite mile workouts
Mark Coogan says that if you could only do 3 workouts as a 1500m runner you should do these
Jakob Ingebrigtsen has a 1989 Ferrari 348 GTB and he's just put in paperwork to upgrade it
