Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is going to be in Congress for the next 50 years.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is going to be in Congress for the next 50 years.
Racket. wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
I'd vote for Attila the Hun over Donald Trump.
Yeah, and you're not too bright, so there's that. Move to another country, and fast. Love that the Donald in Office is really getting to you.
I don't think he will be in office much longer. Probably going to prison. Enjoy your fat orange slob while you can.
Avenentti = Toast wrote:
Flagpole - Who are you supporting in 2020 now that Avenetti has quit his run?
Well, first of all, I did not support Avenatti for President. I don't have a favorite and need more info on the possible candidates before I choose.
Europe is basically in a bear market now, Macron is under intense pressure, and we're about to see a no deal Brexit. And yet the US continues to push isolationist policies under the dumbest president, possibly ever.
Fat hurts wrote:
Racket. wrote:
Yeah, and you're not too bright, so there's that. Move to another country, and fast. Love that the Donald in Office is really getting to you.
I don't think he will be in office much longer. Probably going to prison. Enjoy your fat orange slob while you can.
Prison is more and more likely for Trump all the time. I am still not predicting that though as many things could prevent that. He DESERVES that though.
Racket wrote:
Europe is basically in a bear market now, Macron is under intense pressure, and we're about to see a no deal Brexit. And yet the US continues to push isolationist policies under the dumbest president, possibly ever.
No possibly about it. He is the dumbest ever.
This guy jerks around the markets like crazy.
He started with the big tax cut (that was supposed to be tax reform and not good for him).
That juiced the markets leading up to the end of 2017 and the beginning of 2018.
But the markets are below where they were in January.
They can't do a tax cut every year, so there is nothing to look forward to on that side.
Then he throws these tariffs and tariff threats around and no one know how to plan or what's going to happen.
There's a new NAFTA similar to the old rebranded with a new name but Congress still has to sign off on that.
He had the US reneg on PTT just because Obama signed it which pissed off the Japanese and unsettled some eastern markets.
Corporations spent their tax cuts on executive bonuses and stock buybacks instead of employee raises.
The tariffs are making things more expensive for American companies and American consumers.
Manufacturing jobs as a whole aren't growing. GM is scaling back.
Unemployment is still good.
GDP was great in Q2 but dropped in Q3 and Q4 may be sketchy.
Normally the president doesn't have a great affect on these numbers and there are mostly other factors involved but normally a president doesn't try so hard to influence the markets.
He announces a China deal and stocks go up. Then people don't hear a China response and stocks go down.
The longer he stays in office, the more long term damage that can be done.
L L wrote:
This guy jerks around the markets like crazy.
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this is one of my hopes.
the republican party lives on the donations of a few billionaires and companies.
if they decide that trump is wrecking their personal fortunes and businesses...I don't see how trump could withstand a bunch of angry calls from R donors. I mean Adelson has probably lost a few billion dollars in the last month or two, on a stupid trade war. This is NOT what Adelson donates to Rs for.
Flagpole wrote:
Tinir wrote:
It’s been demonstrated in numerous studies that when people are given free things they don’t value it.
There is s very small likelihood that any tradesmen will perceive that they are anymore valued if they are given a free education.
It would be a complete waste of money. A foolish utopian idea.
Nah...I could live without it, but of the two things free college or free trade school, I pick free trade school. Too many people go to college who shouldn't already.
It’s not an “either or.” It can, and should, be neither.
Fat hurts wrote:
Tinir wrote:
It’s been demonstrated in numerous studies that when people are given free things they don’t value it.
There is s very small likelihood that any tradesmen will perceive that they are anymore valued if they are given a free education.
It would be a complete waste of money. A foolish utopian idea.
This "foolish" idea works really well in other countries. The education is not seen as free because you have to work hard to get through the training program.
But to further allay your concerns, the education grant could be treated as a scholarship that is earned just like any other merit-based scholarship. There are lots of ways to condition the educational opportunity such that you have to work hard to get it or keep it.
Hello, McFly.
We already have what you are proposing. They are called scholarships
Flagpole wrote:
Avenentti = Toast wrote:
Flagpole - Who are you supporting in 2020 now that Avenetti has quit his run?
Well, first of all, I did not support Avenatti for President. I don't have a favorite and need more info on the possible candidates before I choose.
of course you don’t support him NOW
agip wrote:
L L wrote:
This guy jerks around the markets like crazy.
.
this is one of my hopes.
the republican party lives on the donations of a few billionaires and companies.
if they decide that trump is wrecking their personal fortunes and businesses...I don't see how trump could withstand a bunch of angry calls from R donors. I mean Adelson has probably lost a few billion dollars in the last month or two, on a stupid trade war. This is NOT what Adelson donates to Rs for.
We're literally always one tweet away from a 500 point drop or 1000 point leg up. I'm 100% convinced he's insider trading and using tariffs as a way to pump and deflate the market.
Also, you're all Presidential Harassers
L L wrote:
This guy jerks around the markets like crazy.
He started with the big tax cut (that was supposed to be tax reform and not good for him).
That juiced the markets leading up to the end of 2017 and the beginning of 2018.
But the markets are below where they were in January.
They can't do a tax cut every year, so there is nothing to look forward to on that side.
Then he throws these tariffs and tariff threats around and no one know how to plan or what's going to happen.
There's a new NAFTA similar to the old rebranded with a new name but Congress still has to sign off on that.
He had the US reneg on PTT just because Obama signed it which pissed off the Japanese and unsettled some eastern markets.
Corporations spent their tax cuts on executive bonuses and stock buybacks instead of employee raises.
The tariffs are making things more expensive for American companies and American consumers.
Manufacturing jobs as a whole aren't growing. GM is scaling back.
Unemployment is still good.
GDP was great in Q2 but dropped in Q3 and Q4 may be sketchy.
Normally the president doesn't have a great affect on these numbers and there are mostly other factors involved but normally a president doesn't try so hard to influence the markets.
He announces a China deal and stocks go up. Then people don't hear a China response and stocks go down.
The longer he stays in office, the more long term damage that can be done.
Yep.
Tinir wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Nah...I could live without it, but of the two things free college or free trade school, I pick free trade school. Too many people go to college who shouldn't already.
It’s not an “either or.” It can, and should, be neither.
You are correct with your first sentence. I disagree on the second...I say free trade schools would be a good thing.
D1 guy wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
This "foolish" idea works really well in other countries. The education is not seen as free because you have to work hard to get through the training program.
But to further allay your concerns, the education grant could be treated as a scholarship that is earned just like any other merit-based scholarship. There are lots of ways to condition the educational opportunity such that you have to work hard to get it or keep it.
Hello, McFly.
We already have what you are proposing. They are called scholarships
Uh, McFly, the discussion is about government-sponsored free college education for all. What we have now is a patchwork of private scholarships, government grants, and loans. The latter leaves too many young people with crushing debt.
Racket wrote:
agip wrote:
this is one of my hopes.
the republican party lives on the donations of a few billionaires and companies.
if they decide that trump is wrecking their personal fortunes and businesses...I don't see how trump could withstand a bunch of angry calls from R donors. I mean Adelson has probably lost a few billion dollars in the last month or two, on a stupid trade war. This is NOT what Adelson donates to Rs for.
We're literally always one tweet away from a 500 point drop or 1000 point leg up. I'm 100% convinced he's insider trading and using tariffs as a way to pump and deflate the market.
I wish our president were smart enough to think of this.
But I think his motivation is that he has listened to so much right wing radio that he authentically believes that what he is doing is good and correct.
Just like Paul Ryan actually thinks cutting taxes will increase tax receipts, despite all evidence. That's what his ideology says so he can't change.
That said, trump is in awe of actual billionaires and desperately wants their approval, so if they all call and tell him to cut it out, I think he will listen.
L L wrote:
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is going to be in Congress for the next 50 years.
She will move over to the Senate. Repubs in NY won't be able to stop her. She is worst nightmare the Republicans could image: minority, female, nice looking, had a real job, smart, doesn't take BS from men, liberal/progressive, ... a total disaster for them to deal with—they can't.
D1 guy wrote:
Hello, McFly.
We already have what you are proposing. They are called scholarships
Oh, are you white enough to qualify for scholarships? I had to work while going to college to pay my own way. Funny thing is that I make more money that most of the people I went to college who got those scholarships. They don't know how to actually work. They troll on the internet while 'working' as you do. I run my own business, am partially retired, and can troll fools like you as I please.
How rich is fake billionaire tRump? So rich that he had to cash a check for 13¢.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/trump-files-spy-magazine-prank/
Lying Gary Lite Alert wrote:
Lying Gary Lite Alert wrote:
Hey, Igy, no need to be hiding. Your best friend, agip despises you whether you try to hide or not.
“What kind of an amoral ideologue still supports a politician who has had FIVE campaign officials plead guilty to federal charges?” - agip
Last time you started this you got burned.
That's funny. Since I have never been burned are you claiming that I never started "this" before.
But really, Igy, there is no need to hide. Everyone knows who you are when you make these vacuous, oh-so-clever posts. And what does your buddy really think of you?
As agip says: “You have really sold your soul. You are dirt and you are against honesty and good government.”