Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

agip wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

That’s not necessary true. Hillary didn’t own Trump, he definitely outperformed during their debates and she performed as expected. Biden does not strike me as a blowhard politician. Likability is very important (think Bush) and don’t forget he has Obama on his side. I don’t see a Booker type doing well at all. PC is only not in right now because very few sound genuine when they engage the public.

HIllary did fine in the debates. She was factual and steady handed. The problem is that no one at the time understood what the real appeal of trump was - the racial appeal, the 'lock her up' viciousness, the lies. That he was an amoral salesman rather than a politician.

HRC didn't understand that voters wanted the fire and the flames of fear and hatred and lies - she thought they wanted facts and experience and policy and calm. She thought it was an old time, not the current trumpist white power politics.

The next candidate will thoroughly understand what trump and Trumpism is.

Trollminator wrote:

Racket wrote:

A stale muffin left out on the kitchen counter for 5 days could own Trump in an actual refereed debate. Biden is an old guard Democrat and a safe choice, much like John Kerry was in 2004! Remember when people were shocked that Bush won reelection? Sure he was an idiot and the war in Iraq was already being exposed as a bad idea, but he's easier to sit down and have a beer with. Same retarded logic will apply to Biden vs Trump and Trump will win reelection because "he really says what he means and isn't PC and sure does trigger those libs har har har!!!"

That’s not necessary true. Hillary didn’t own Trump, he definitely outperformed during their debates and she performed as expected. Biden does not strike me as a blowhard politician. Likability is very important (think Bush) and don’t forget he has Obama on his side. I don’t see a Booker type doing well at all. PC is only not in right now because very few sound genuine when they engage the public.

Flagpole wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

You are right. And here is some more reality. Tax-cheat Trump is an autocrat. Here are the ways that autocrats leave office:

1. Die in office

2. Thrown in prison

3. Escape to exile in another country

4. Taken out back and shot

Tax-cheat Trump will never leave office voluntarily. Those are the only four outcomes.

Also, watch carefully who replaces Mattis. Control of the military is crucial for an autocrat.

(OK, so I sound paranoid. But tell me what leads you to believe that Tax-cheat Trump would accept impeachment or an election loss.)

Fat Hurts,

You are correct about how autocrats leave office, but Trump is an autocrat WANNABE, and there's a difference.

The Senate had be very careful. If Mueller's report is as damning as I believe it will be, if the Senate doesn't convict him after the House's impeachment, it is telling every future president that they can do whatever the hell they want to do...obstruction of justice, conspiring with an enemy foreign power to win an election, and on and on. Would be better for Republicans to do it sooner than later...get Pence in there for a while before the 2020 election.

Racket wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Fat Hurts,

You are correct about how autocrats leave office, but Trump is an autocrat WANNABE, and there's a difference.

The Senate had be very careful. If Mueller's report is as damning as I believe it will be, if the Senate doesn't convict him after the House's impeachment, it is telling every future president that they can do whatever the hell they want to do...obstruction of justice, conspiring with an enemy foreign power to win an election, and on and on. Would be better for Republicans to do it sooner than later...get Pence in there for a while before the 2020 election.

As long as Trump has a sizeable base he's not going anywhere. Senators want to get reelected and they risk that by moving against Trump. He's mostly a rubber stamp anyways and appoints conservative judges so why would they turn on him? The Mueller report has already been declared fake news before it's even out. If they think they can impeach him without hurting reelection then they will but not a moment sooner.

Flagpole wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

You are right. And here is some more reality. Tax-cheat Trump is an autocrat. Here are the ways that autocrats leave office:

1. Die in office

2. Thrown in prison

3. Escape to exile in another country

4. Taken out back and shot

Tax-cheat Trump will never leave office voluntarily. Those are the only four outcomes.

Also, watch carefully who replaces Mattis. Control of the military is crucial for an autocrat.

(OK, so I sound paranoid. But tell me what leads you to believe that Tax-cheat Trump would accept impeachment or an election loss.)

Fat Hurts,

You are correct about how autocrats leave office, but Trump is an autocrat WANNABE, and there's a difference.

The Senate had be very careful. If Mueller's report is as damning as I believe it will be, if the Senate doesn't convict him after the House's impeachment, it is telling every future president that they can do whatever the hell they want to do...obstruction of justice, conspiring with an enemy foreign power to win an election, and on and on. Would be better for Republicans to do it sooner than later...get Pence in there for a while before the 2020 election.

Racket wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Fat Hurts,

You are correct about how autocrats leave office, but Trump is an autocrat WANNABE, and there's a difference.

The Senate had be very careful. If Mueller's report is as damning as I believe it will be, if the Senate doesn't convict him after the House's impeachment, it is telling every future president that they can do whatever the hell they want to do...obstruction of justice, conspiring with an enemy foreign power to win an election, and on and on. Would be better for Republicans to do it sooner than later...get Pence in there for a while before the 2020 election.

As long as Trump has a sizeable base he's not going anywhere. Senators want to get reelected and they risk that by moving against Trump. He's mostly a rubber stamp anyways and appoints conservative judges so why would they turn on him? The Mueller report has already been declared fake news before it's even out. If they think they can impeach him without hurting reelection then they will but not a moment sooner.

Vegas Vegan Oddsmaker wrote:

L L wrote:

We can't bet because we are anonymous. Are you going to say who you really are, here?

Out of curiosity, what kind of odds are you giving?

My prediction is not likely, I'll admit.

If I bet $100 you'd have to put up at least $500. Or $10,000 if you really think my prediction has no chance and is outlandish.

No, you're the guarantee guy. You made the claim. You bet $100, I put up $100 and so on and so on old man. If anything, you'd be giving me odds, not the other way around.

NOW you say your prediction is not likely. Here's how guys like you operate. If it happens, look at me, I predicted it. If it doesn't, well I said it wasn't likely. Leaving wiggle room is your weak cowardly point.

Go ahead, contact the Brothers and we won't be anonymous. I'll gladly send them the money and they can hold the money that we both send them and the winner gets it all sent back to them. How hard is that?

You're just another guy trying to sound politically intelligent about what's going to happen in the White House, but you're not.

Fat hurts wrote:

Racket wrote:

You're all absolutely delusional if you think a Republican controlled senate will move forward to actually remove Trump. So far Trump has shown at least some understanding that he must keep the Republicans in the Senate happy (not firing Mueller and not firing Jeff Sessions yet). They will keep him in power for as long as he is convenient to them, and all he has to do is sit back and be a rubber stamp for their increasingly retarded legislation, and of course put as many conservative judges on benches across America. Based on everything in the past two years, do you honestly think Republicans would move against Trump even if Mueller's evidence was totally damning?

No. They'd call it fake news, deep state, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Hillary's emails, triggered libtards, ha ha ha we won you lost get over it. When their idiot base eats it up, we get a country that's even more divided in 2020 than it was in 2016. It's sad, but that's the reality.

You are right. And here is some more reality. Tax-cheat Trump is an autocrat. Here are the ways that autocrats leave office:

1. Die in office

2. Thrown in prison

3. Escape to exile in another country

4. Taken out back and shot

Tax-cheat Trump will never leave office voluntarily. Those are the only four outcomes.

Also, watch carefully who replaces Mattis. Control of the military is crucial for an autocrat.

(OK, so I sound paranoid. But tell me what leads you to believe that Tax-cheat Trump would accept impeachment or an election loss.)