Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Racket wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

So I was thinking about getting Bob Woodward's new book, Fear. I looked on Amazon and read the Prologue.

Now I'm not sure I can bring myself to read any more of it. Even though I had already heard news reports about what the prologue said, I was stunned. And scared. To read Woodward's full account was a truly frightening experience.

Things are much, much worse than I thought.

Not sure why you or anyone else thought things would be different. This is pretty much exactly what I suspected a Trump presidency would be like, even with this anonymous op-ed person.

If you wanna break the status quo then you have to have political savvy which Trump of course has zero.

That's just it. It's one thing to know this stuff from news reports. You become kind of numb to it amid all the back and forth.

But then you read it, knowing that Woodward has verified everything with multiple sources. He puts you right there in the room as this stuff is happening.

Fear is what I felt while reading that Prologue. It's probably the scariest thing I've ever read.

Not trolling, and I don't have any issues with the book, and I realize people like Kellyanne were trying to keep Woodward from talking to Trump, but it wasn't just that. He didn't talk to a lot of actors in that book who were referenced by others...no attempt to talk to Chris Christie and several others.

Just trying to keep an open mind here and viewing it how an EDUCATED Trump supporter (perhaps not many of those) could view Woodward. He just doesn't come off great in interviews.

Would have been better if Bernstein wrote it. Michael Wolff came off better in interviews than Woodward has,,.and I BELIEVE everything Woodward wrote is true.

Nah...I don't believe that. He is a reporter and reported the facts.

not so sure about that wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

We have already established that they don't oppose contraception per se. They think it's hunky dory as long as you are married.

There is nothing disingenuous about it.

Then they can't claim to be FOR the availability of contraception if there are limiting conditions attached. What they are FOR is limiting its availability. Which is the whole problem. The contradictory viewpoint (if you want fewer abortions) that started this conversation.

Yes, many evangelicals are for limiting the availability of contraception. They believe that it would deter extra-marital sex. Just because they are wrong doesn't mean they are being disingenuous.

Tyrone ReXXXing wrote:

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

I know what you mean:

https://www.scribd.com/document/388284032/Letter-to-Rod

Igloi, pretend that most of rest of us are not automatically "in" on your jokes (because we are not, most of us are not living in alt-right land). So........

what is your example proving or disproving? In plain english ol' chap.

(because most of the rational people here see a letter written by Mark Meadows insisting that there are deep state conspiracies against Trump, and yes, we feel you are providing examples to support the poster's contention that right wingers will believe anything. But somehow I think you had the opposite intention.)

Buddy, your head is so far in the sand. At some point, as the truth continues to come out regarding the establishment conspiracy against the Trump campaign and subsequent presidency, you'll come to your senses and say "holy crap, how did I miss this? They told me it was Russian Collusion."

I believe Bruce Ohr will be #15. That's the number of DOJ/FBI officials fired or forced to resign since the Russian Hoax began. All 15 individuals were leads of investigations, departments, etc. As their communications and actions were revealed, they were typically first demoted to a nothing position to wait things out, and then fired or resigned. Several were in on both the fake-HRC investigation and the initial fake Russia Collusion phases. As we are seeing, more and more "redacted" emails and texts exist, and will continue to roll out slowly, further incriminating these POS.

If you only follow your bias outlets though, you probably don't know about 90% of them.

Meanwhile, the Russian Collusion hoax is clearly going nowhere, as it was just revealed that Mueller hasn't even interviewed Bruce Ohr!! That's unbelievable. He clearly knows it's- what did Van Jones call it again?- a "nothingburger."

As he has been hinting at for a while now, Trump will hopefully soon declassify everything and blow the lid off the FBI's treasonous behavior to undermine democracy.

Mueller never (pretty clear at this point).

Clownpole forever (apparently he likes it this way).

Flagpole wrote:

Reality Bitez wrote:

It's almost like he had an agenda.

Nah...I don't believe that. He is a reporter and reported the facts.

You are very naive if you believe he (or other writers of books like these) reported just the facts and had zero agenda.

Agree wrote:

Democrats are fairies wrote:

Democrats are maxine waters lovers.

That’s hilarious!!!!!!

Nothing better than watching hillary lovers continue to have meltdowns!!!!

Mueller?

Mueller?

Mueller?

Agree!

Where’s the Russian collusion? Why couldn’t regular law enforcement catch vicious criminals like manafort? The public is so much safer now.

Democrats are disgusting pieces of trash.

1) Is the Mueller investigation over with his full report delivered?

2) Russian collusion (conspiracy)? Umm...Trump Tower meeting. There will be more examples, but what more do you need?

3) So, by referring to Manafort as "vicious" you are saying you think his crimes were not worthy of punishment. So, any of us can just hide millions of dollars so we don't have to pay taxes on it? Umm...how about no. People who cheat on taxes ultimately make YOUR taxes go up or your services get cut or your roads and bridges less maintained. There are laws against it for a reason. We don't JUST care about laws that protect us from violence. Your attitude on this is 100% wrong.

4) Manafort was caught up in the investigation as is allowed. This same thing happened to Bill Clinton. Once a special investigation begins, they can prosecute whatever they find.

The FBI started investigating Manafort in 2014.

Manafort was going to jail no matter what. It's just that because he also became Trump's campaign manager, we are hearing all about it.

So yes, "regular law enforcement" was already on the case.

Silly Willy wrote:

[a bunch of gibberish]

Mueller never (pretty clear at this point).

Clownpole forever (apparently he likes it this way).

Mueller never? How can you say that at this point? 35 indictments and guilty pleas. Everyone and their brother cooperating with Mueller and then Pecker and Weisselberg given immunity. Also, anything the SDNY finds is a result of the Mueller investigation, because he sent stuff their way. You are either ignorant or brainwashed or stupid.

Clownpole? Ha! When this is over, I will be proven right about Trump and right even about the 2016 election. Because of people like you who post this silly thing, the biggest I Told You So in the history of Letsrun is coming from me to you Trumpers. I won't name names, and I won't go on about it unless challenged because while I am righteous, I am even more kind.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

Reality Bitez wrote:

You are very naive if you believe he (or other writers of books like these) reported just the facts and had zero agenda.

Not Woodward. He has written books about every President since Nixon, and he never took any political side. No political agenda from him on Trump. Trump is a nutbar and is just being exposed.

I will be proven right, again.

Mueller never

Clownpole forever

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Mueller never? How can you say that at this point? 35 indictments and guilty pleas. Everyone and their brother cooperating with Mueller and then Pecker and Weisselberg given immunity. Also, anything the SDNY finds is a result of the Mueller investigation, because he sent stuff their way. You are either ignorant or brainwashed or stupid.

Clownpole? Ha! When this is over, I will be proven right about Trump and right even about the 2016 election. Because of people like you who post this silly thing, the biggest I Told You So in the history of Letsrun is coming from me to you Trumpers. I won't name names, and I won't go on about it unless challenged because while I am righteous, I am even more kind.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

I will be proven right, again.

Mueller never

Clownpole forever

Kool Aid isn't really good for you brother. Not only will you not be proven right "again", you will be proven wrong about Trump now and about the 2016 election as conspiracy with Russia will be shown.

Flagpole wrote:

Reality Bitez wrote:

You are very naive if you believe he (or other writers of books like these) reported just the facts and had zero agenda.

Not Woodward. He has written books about every President since Nixon, and he never took any political side. No political agenda from him on Trump. Trump is a nutbar and is just being exposed.

Obviously, you've never read any other of his books or you wouldn't say he took any political side.

(and yeah, Trump is a nutbar)

Reality Bitez wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Not Woodward. He has written books about every President since Nixon, and he never took any political side. No political agenda from him on Trump. Trump is a nutbar and is just being exposed.

Obviously, you've never read any other of his books or you wouldn't say he took any political side.

(and yeah, Trump is a nutbar)

His agenda is of course to sell books. But his account is no different that other books, op-eds and other sources.

Alan

Reality Bitez wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Not Woodward. He has written books about every President since Nixon, and he never took any political side. No political agenda from him on Trump. Trump is a nutbar and is just being exposed.

Obviously, you've never read any other of his books or you wouldn't say he took any political side.

(and yeah, Trump is a nutbar)

I have read his books. People who can only see partisan things in any writing about a president can not view an objective book on one in an unbiased way. From Nixon's drinking to Reagan's sharpness despite reports to the contrary to Clinton's temper. I've read it all. He has always been fair and unbiased.

Runningart2004 wrote:

Reality Bitez wrote:

Obviously, you've never read any other of his books or you wouldn't say he took any political side.

(and yeah, Trump is a nutbar)

His agenda is of course to sell books. But his account is no different that other books, op-eds and other sources.

Alan

I would say selling books in part of his agenda. He is a true newsman though and also wants to document this president as he did with previous ones.

You are correct that what this book supposedly reveals (I've only read the prologue and chapter 1 and the beginning of chapter 2) shows a president who is no different than one revealed in other books on him. For this reason, it may be the first one of his that I don't read. The others were more of an inside look. With Trump, we've seen it and heard it. No one has written a book that says he's a sharp, honest, talented, hard-working guy.

Runningart2004 wrote:

Has there ever been such an unpopular president at a time when the economy is this good?

Sub 40% approval, sub 4% unemployment, 4% or better GDP growth?

Alan

Look at your polls, again. Are they using "Registered Voter" models? If so, they are historically biased & oversample democrats during Presidential years and are SUPER inaccurate during midterms. Likely Voter models are more accurate.

Good summary of the recent approval drop. 538 is now at 39.9% compilation

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/9/11/17845906/trumps-approval-rating-sinks-midterms-gop

Flagpole wrote:

Runningart2004 wrote:

His agenda is of course to sell books. But his account is no different that other books, op-eds and other sources.

Alan

I would say selling books in part of his agenda. He is a true newsman though and also wants to document this president as he did with previous ones.

You are correct that what this book supposedly reveals (I've only read the prologue and chapter 1 and the beginning of chapter 2) shows a president who is no different than one revealed in other books on him. For this reason, it may be the first one of his that I don't read. The others were more of an inside look. With Trump, we've seen it and heard it. No one has written a book that says he's a sharp, honest, talented, hard-working guy.

We are talking about a mental midget in the WH. There’s no way to spin it - a moron was elected for POTUS. Buyer’s remorse will play into the midterm results. Rigged can keep wearing his MAG@ hat if it makes him feel safe, but it’s been downhill for Trump since his first day in office.