Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

You are probably right. There is simply no way to defend Trump at this point. He's a fool. He's not up to the challenge of being the President. He's a criminal, and now we know that everyone and their brother around him knows it.

I don't need anyone to feel defeated. I don't want Trumpers to "lose". I just want America to win and Donald Trump to pay for his misdeeds. The word needs to be sent out to the world that we won't allow someone with a dictatorship mentality to run our country.

That is happening.

PIO! wrote:

So then, how many votes do you think this fellow is good for?

https://hague6185.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/russian-mole-rat.jpg

That's a Russian mole rat if I ever saw one.

So I'd say somewhere around 63 million votes.

Liberal Mind wrote:

Thisthreadisridiculous wrote:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/06/north-carolina-hit-with-subpoena-for-millions-voter-records-by-federal-officials-investigating-fraud.html

This is the biggest threat to election interference...not Russia.....

Remember, voter fraud doesn't exist (unless you investigate it)...

Remember, Kris Kobach did investigate it, on behalf of Trump who couldn't quite come to grips with the fact that more people voted for Hillary than him.

And he came up with nothing.

Fat hurts wrote:

PIO! wrote:

It is odd that this thread is so quiet after the Woodward book and NYT Op Ed piece. It seems like there would be much to talk about.

Then why don't we play everyone's favorite new parlor game called, "Who wrote the anonymous op-ed?"

Early speculation says it is Pence or Pence's speechwriter. This is based primarily on the uncommon word, "lodestar" that appears in the op-ed and in many of Pence's speeches.

Lawrence O'Donnell gave a pretty convincing argument that the culprit is likely to be Director of National Intelligence, Dan Coats. I'm betting on this one.

Anybody else have an educated guess as to who it is or who it could not be?

I'll listen to others for a reasonable guess as to the writer of the op ed. But here's a good follow up:

Trump RCP approval average is 41.1%

Ooooooof!

Flagpole wrote:

Well, there is value in becoming educated. It also shows potential employers, regardless of whether you are trained for a specific occupation, that you can see something to its conclusion.

I'm not against people becoming educated. It's just that becoming college educated is not in the cards for even most Americans. So, I don't think your concerns are warranted because I don't believe free college would lead to that many more college graduates. We already have societal pressure for people to go to college and inexpensive ways to do it, so way more people than should attempt it.

We have a mushrooming college debt crisis. It's hard to make the case that college today is inexpensive.

You would have to make the case that ALL these students have done something wrong in racking up this debt. The system is broken and college is way too expensive for most people.

Thisthreadisridiculous wrote:

foxnews.com

This is the biggest threat to election interference...not Russia.....

0/10

Fox News .... get serious

The 19 DID NOT file false citizenship documentation, as Fox claims. They received voter registration forms and no one bothered to explain the legal language to them what filling the form out meant.

Imbeciles like you turn 19 confused people into 5 million intentionally illegal votes.

Your revised score is: -1/10.

Also....if you are poor you simply use the full federal pell grant, assuming you qualify.

There are too many affordable ways to go to college.

Free college is simply a very bad and very expensive idea.

A college education is not a right.

Alan

Now if you DIVERT money maybe this works.

Get rid of the Pell Grant. Divert that money to pay for free tuition to state schools assuming you qualify with a certain GPA/SAT/ACT.

Alan

XY wrote:

Trump RCP approval average is 41.1%

Ooooooof!

The 538 poll went up from 39.7% to 40% overnight. The reason it ticked up is the Rasmussen poll, which is now doing polls twice and week. The latest Rasmussen poll says:

48% approve of Trump

53% disapprove

The sum total is 101%. There are no undecided people in the Rasmussen poll. It currently gets a C+ rating. It should be getting an F for putting out such garbage results.

After sending out their results, it looks like Rasmussen "fixed" their results to 46% approve of Trump; 53% disapprove. . . . LOL . . . a simple (actually) major error when reporting, or an attempt to skew public opinion.

Runningart2004 wrote:

If you can put sentences together in a semi coherent way and learn the art of BS any fool can earn a college degree.

You would think that is true, but it isn't. I taught English for two semesters at a Community College, and I had students in there who couldn't write better than my daughter could when she was in Kindergarten, and I am not kidding or exaggerating. Being a college student requires the ability to read or take in information given in lectures and then be able to pump that back out, often with individual insight. This is a nearly impossible task for at least half of graduating high school students.

Well, you did say if you can put sentences together in a semi-coherent way. I'm telling you that that is impossible for at least half of graduating high school students. More than just that is required of college students anyway.

Kavanaugh refers to birth control as "abortion-inducing drugs." This is an important reminder that it's not just abortion that the religious right cultists are after; it's access to birth control in general. The idea of people having enjoyable sex lives makes them extremely insecure.

Liberal Mind wrote:

Thisthreadisridiculous wrote:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/06/north-carolina-hit-with-subpoena-for-millions-voter-records-by-federal-officials-investigating-fraud.html

This is the biggest threat to election interference...not Russia.....

Remember, voter fraud doesn't exist (unless you investigate it).

"The defendants – from numerous countries, including Mexico, the Dominican Republic, Nigeria and Germany – were accused of filing a false claim of citizenship in order to vote or illegal voting."

Didn't some idiot on this thread say earlier that illegal aliens don't register and vote because they are afraid to risk being caught.

Wrong again, Flagpole.

Not sure what you are attributing to me, but nothing here was anything I posted, so it's impossible for me to be wrong here...and EXTREMELY rare at any time.

Runningart2004 wrote:

Now if you DIVERT money maybe this works.

Get rid of the Pell Grant. Divert that money to pay for free tuition to state schools assuming you qualify with a certain GPA/SAT/ACT.

Alan

We're getting closer to agreeing.

I did say that students would have to meet admission standards.

Make it more merit based than money based.

L L wrote:

Runningart2004 wrote:

Now if you DIVERT money maybe this works.

Get rid of the Pell Grant. Divert that money to pay for free tuition to state schools assuming you qualify with a certain GPA/SAT/ACT.

Alan

We're getting closer to agreeing.

I did say that students would have to meet admission standards.

Make it more merit based than money based.

I say if we’re going to offer “free college” it should be at a higher standard than the general admission standard.

Alan

The entire NY Times piece was just a way to put the 25th Amendment on the table. They realize that Mueller has nothing, Stormy Daniels was a bust (pun intended), Omarosa, Fire and fury and Bernstein all have nothing. Their last hope is to just say that he is unfit for office.

Mueller never

Clownpole forever

Trollminator wrote:

Make America Great Again wrote:

Any American not supporting President Trump must be deranged. He has made American great again by unleashing unprecedented economic growth after decades of carnage inflicted by both Republican and Democratic presidents. He has made America much safer by securing the border and throwing out undesirables. He has restored the moral rectitude of the country by allowing us to say "Merry Christmas" without any fear of retribution. He is easily the greatest president since Abe Lincoln. We should all be grateful that such a great man has chosen to serve our country.

Hmm who should I listen to? you mr nobody redneck or the Resistance who work with Trump directly and know what kind of “great man” he is

How do you know whether this "senior administration official" actually exists or not? It could be a fictional character created by the failing NYT. Or it could be one of the angry Democrats impersonator. You will never know as long as this author remains anonymous.

Remember, the Trump appointed Supreme Court Justices are not subjected to the filibuster like in the past.

It is now strictly partisan.

Obama has two on the court.

Kagan received 63 yes votes

Sotomayor received 68 yes votes

And Merrick Garland had the pre-approval of many Republicans until Obama appointed him.

Then they wouldn't call a vote.

Kavanaugh is a very partisan pick, selected specifically to only appeal to conservatives with the filibuster thrown out by this administration.

But elections have consequences.

Look at Kavanugh struggling under questioning about who he talked to about the Mueller investigation.

Looks like a liar if I've ever seen one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tsm1GPnlqmU

(yes, those liberal protesters look loony)

1) Average debt for 2017 graduating students was $39,400. Not fun, but not crippling.

2) Also, I didn't say that college was inexpensive. I said it CAN be if you really want it to be. MOST people who rack up that kind of debt do so by choice. We capped my daughter at $15,000 in student loans when she graduates from an elite college, and we are paying a little bit to send her there (great financial need based on our income...income that is pretty good too actually). She could have gone to any number of state schools both in Ohio and other states for free based on academic scholarship money if she wanted to, but she went to her first choice college, and she agreed to take on a $15,000 student loan to pay back when all was said and done in order to go there. Many students want the college experience and don't want to stay at home and go to the local community college for 2 years before finally transferring to a 4-year school.

3) Here in Ohio (not even close to the cheapest state to go to college), it is $3,790 per year to go to Columbus State Community College. So, do that for 2 years and that's $7,580. A typical work-study job while there earns $1,500 per year, so $3000 total, so we're down to $4,580 for the first two years of college assuming still living at home which is what most Community College students do, and that doesn't include any working in the summer. Now, after two years, transfer to Ohio State (CSCC has a partnership with many colleges in Ohio that if you finish 2 years and have at least a 2.0 GPA, you can transfer to that 4-year college. This is a great way for people to get into Ohio State who could not have right out of high school.) Ohio State has a $10,000 per year tuition cost for in-state students. Let's have them do work-study for 2 years at $1,500 per, and the total for a BA from Ohio State is $21,580. This included no summer working and also no tuition break based on family income.

Other cheap state school tuition in Ohio:

Wright State - $8,730

Shawnee State - $6,251

All under $6,000: Allegheny Wesleyan, several different Ohio University, Ohio State University, University of Cincinnati, and Miami University branch campuses.

Central State - $3,926

So, can it be done on the cheap? Yep. This doesn't even take into account any academic or athletic scholarships a person might get. Some lower-tier college give pretty good money even for students with a 3.0 GPA.

So, do people graduate with a bachelor's degree owing over $100,000? Yep. Did they NEED to do that? Nope.