Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

TheOhioState wrote:

Yep...those awful right wingers. Hell, they're as bad as that POS that killed her.

HI JAMINLOPER!!!

How are you two "boys" doing tonight? ?

Trump = Honest Abe

NYT on Kavanaugh:

“WASHINGTON — The Trump White House, citing executive privilege, is withholding from the Senate more than 100,000 pages of records from Judge Brett M. Kavanaugh’s time as a lawyer in the administration of former President George W. Bush.

The decision, disclosed in a letter that a lawyer for Mr. Bush sent on Friday to Senator Charles E. Grassley of Iowa, the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, comes just days before the start of Judge Kavanaugh’s Supreme Court confirmation hearings on Tuesday. It drew condemnation from Senator Chuck Schumer of New York, the Democratic leader.

“We’re witnessing a Friday night document massacre,” Mr. Schumer wrote on Twitter on Saturday. “President Trump’s decision to step in at the last moment and hide 100k pages of Judge Kavanaugh’s records from the American public is not only unprecedented in the history of SCOTUS noms, it has all the makings of a cover up.””

Gary - who runs the deep state again?

Flagpole wrote:

Interesting and yet some odd posting while I've been away having a life that some here say I don't have. Even threw in watching a D1 College CC meet.

Some things:

1) There are Trumpettes, Trumpers or whatever you want to call those who continue to support Trump. There are NOT Clintonettes or anything equivalent. She is not President and does not have a base of suppport at this point.

2) All people against Trump, including me, are against him because of stuff he has done or that we found out he has done since he was elected. No one is clamoring for Hillary.

3) The Democrats WILL take the House. Doesn't matter. The Mueller report will be so bad Trump will be impeached and removed or he will resign no matter the political makeup.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

I think you're right, except I can't imagine Trump resigning. Who is going to be able to explain to him that he cannot make his problems disappear by a combination of lying, denying and firing? Also, he will cling to the idea that if he wins a second term, he will be safe for four more years.

Will Trump tolerate anyone sane? Look at the people he has hired and fired and those he has kept!

So maybe the most likely scenario is that Republicans want to keep him until the end of the term, so he isn't impeached. The Democrats win the Presidency in 2020, assuming they choose a reasonable candidate and run a sensible campaign. Another possibility is someone else wins the Republican Primary, and this candidate becomes President.

Probably his legal problems will remain after he leaves the White House, but perhaps there is an argument that it's better to drop it and it's just too embarrassing to imprison an ex-President.

The most politically balanced scenario would be for him to serve out his first term, not try to run again after Mueller's report and just go away for good. This allows his voters to keep their dignity and the GOP and Dems not to drift too much further apart. This scenario would be ok if he wasn't a blatant liar and shady as all fvck human being. Although he likely committed an impeachable crime, so the right thing to do is to run him the fvck out of the WH asap. He is so criminal that the main debate all along has been whether he will speak to Mueller or not - as in if he does we all know he will 100% perjure himself.

I’m sticking with the scenario that Trump resigns between April and June next year.

I believe they are gathering evidence of bank fraud and tax evasion.

High dollar. High crimes.

The House will impeach early next year.

Trump resigns as the Senate trial starts to bring some bad things to light that he doesn’t want to come out.

Things will tighten more on Trump.

What the public knows now is nothing compared to what is being unearthed.

In other news:

So some of the latest polls with high ratings (Ratings from 538 site) on Trump's approval-

WaPo: A+ 36% approval

IBT: A- 36%

YouGov B 38%

Not good for Donald. Only a little more than 1/3 of the country approve of the job that he is doing, and that is with a really good economy.

In fact, Trump has *the lowest avg approval rating for his first 1.6 years in office of any president since the 40's*.

And remember when all the conservatives were touting his "AMAZING POPULARITY WITH AFRICAN AMERICANS!!" based on some nonsense like a 36% approval by blacks figure, from that idiot Rasmussen? And this is where the avg right winger is different than average left winger . And this is crucial- while there certainly are some left wingers that are very gullible, or believe nonsense if it is what they want to hear, right wingers are MUCH MORE LIKELY to believe completely made up, detached-from-reality BS. Absolutely, 100% true. Anyone with a shred of knowledge about politics, would know that that 36% # was a BS #, or at least be highly cynical about it. But what did right wingers do? They trumpeted that "FACT" around the internet, proving, to themselves, that blacks like Donald, and therefore clearly he was doing a great job, and is "not a racist!". lol.

What does the A+ WaPo poll show his favorable ratings is among blacks ?

THREE %. Not 36. THREE. 12 x less than what right wing clowns were claiming.

But the even more absurd thing is: they will stick with that 36% number, no matter what contrary info they hear. Hell, if they were told he had 60% approval among blacks, they'd believe it and tell everyone: TRUMP, most popular right wing presidents with blacks ever!! Least racist president ever!

Trump, absolutely the post-truth, fake news, love the lie/live the lie, president.

You only believe in polls from liberal news sources and which have a history of oversampling democrats- I get it. But for you to be so gullible to readily accept that Trump has 3% black approval makes you a fool.

I call BS.

I have a black friend who likes Trump.

Well, at least he didn't say anything negative about Trump last time we ate pizza together.

I mean, the topic of Trump never even came up. But anyway.

Also, we weren't actually eating pizza. We were walking in the park and there WERE people eating pizza there.

Also, he isn't actually black. But he did know some black guys in high school.

He is also not my friend. But he WAS in the same park as me. The one with the pizza eaters.

Anyway, my point is that clearly black people LOVE Trump. My black friend does.

See? Here's my friend ^ !

L L wrote:

I’m sticking with the scenario that Trump resigns between April and June next year.

I believe they are gathering evidence of bank fraud and tax evasion.

High dollar. High crimes.

The House will impeach early next year.

Trump resigns as the Senate trial starts to bring some bad things to light that he doesn’t want to come out.

Things will tighten more on Trump.

What the public knows now is nothing compared to what is being unearthed.

First, Trump will pardon himself of all crimes: past, present and future. Then he will try to make a deal with the Senate to resign IF they unconditionally accept his resignation with his full self-pardon. If the Senate does not accept expect Trump to tell his loyal followers—which will end being less than 10% of the country, because the majority are all talk and nothing more—to launch a civil war against the US.

Well, we missed the traditional beginning of the month bashing of Flagpole. So, I will start now:

Mueller is definitely NOT coming

Donald Trump WILL finish his first term...your guarantee will be hogwash, again.

How's that Russian Collusion working out for ya?

I have lost track of how many months you have been continuously wrong

Here is a link to a detailed FOX News poll from a couple week ago (Fox has not done a more recent poll -- see Questions 24-33).

Who -- Favorable / Unfavorable:

Donald Trump -- 41% / 57%

Republican Party -- 29% / 56%

Paul Ryan -- 31% / 51%

Mitch McConnell -- 22% - 52%

. . . and

Nancy Pelosi -- 29% / 54%

Chuck Schumer -- 28% / 42%

Faux Newss wrote:

Here is a link to a detailed FOX News poll from a couple week ago (Fox has not done a more recent poll -- see Questions 24-33).

Who -- Favorable / Unfavorable:

Donald Trump -- 41% / 57%

Republican Party -- 29% / 56%

Paul Ryan -- 31% / 51%

Mitch McConnell -- 22% - 52%

. . . and

Nancy Pelosi -- 29% / 54%

Chuck Schumer -- 28% / 42%

TRUMP WINS, AGAIN!!!! the unfavorable rating above all others.

Thank you, Fox News for this glorious poll. :-)

Uh, the Senate has no say in pardons. The Senate can't accept or deny a pardon. Whether or not a president can pardon himself would be left up to the Supreme Court.

The Senate also has no way to accept or reject the resignation. If the president wants to quit, nobody can stop him.

BTW, Trump will not resign. Trump is an autocrat and autocrats don't resign.

There are only three ways that autocrats leave office.

They either rule for life, get thrown in prison, or they are taken out back and shot.

Fat hurts wrote:

Pardone wrote:

First, Trump will pardon himself of all crimes: past, present and future. Then he will try to make a deal with the Senate to resign IF they unconditionally accept his resignation with his full self-pardon. If the Senate does not accept expect Trump to tell his loyal followers—which will end being less than 10% of the country, because the majority are all talk and nothing more—to launch a civil war against the US.

Uh, the Senate has no say in pardons. The Senate can't accept or deny a pardon. Whether or not a president can pardon himself would be left up to the Supreme Court.

The Senate also has no way to accept or reject the resignation. If the president wants to quit, nobody can stop him.

I think part of the point is that Trump will try to pardon himself for misdeeds he has yet to commit. The Senate is the lawmaking body of Congress. They would certainly have to chime in on such an attempt by a President.

Fat hurts wrote:

BTW, Trump will not resign. Trump is an autocrat and autocrats don't resign.

There are only three ways that autocrats leave office.

They either rule for life, get thrown in prison, or they are taken out back and shot.

Money would be a reason for Trump to resign. He would have to get enough bigly deal in place made with foreign governments, and companies, to be happy to leave the thankless job he currently holds.

Money money money wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

BTW, Trump will not resign. Trump is an autocrat and autocrats don't resign.

There are only three ways that autocrats leave office.

They either rule for life, get thrown in prison, or they are taken out back and shot.

Money would be a reason for Trump to resign. He would have to get enough bigly deal in place made with foreign governments, and companies, to be happy to leave the thankless job he currently holds.

I would certainly expect Trump to challenge Congress to something about any pardon he would reward himself with. Republicans in Congress have certainly bent over for Trump on most everything so far. They are too afraid of losing his small, rabid base of supporters.

Money money money wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

BTW, Trump will not resign. Trump is an autocrat and autocrats don't resign.

There are only three ways that autocrats leave office.

They either rule for life, get thrown in prison, or they are taken out back and shot.

Money would be a reason for Trump to resign. He would have to get enough bigly deal in place made with foreign governments, and companies, to be happy to leave the thankless job he currently holds.

I don't think Trump loves money more than power. He will never willingly leave the most powerful job in the world.