And there you have it. EU is going to impose retaliatory tariffs. Trump is about to feel the consequences of throwing allies under the bus. He may think he can handle China on a 1-to-1 match, but when you account for the backlash from other trade partners the US will be in for a lot of pain. I hope he keeps this up so he won’t be in the WH any longer than he legally can be.
What if this is a midterm election strategy to energize his base? Or, maybe he capitulates in October?
no, no, no...we're in a zero tolerance world now, where babies are taken away from their mothers for crossing a line in the desert. So Ross signed something that was wrong, breaking the law. He should be arrested and jailed. I just want you to be consistent. Am I wrong to do so?
_its_baddude wrote:
I'll translate the story for you in clear language.
* The NYT is digging for dirt on all Trumpers.
* They find he held stock in a company associated with Russia.
* They contact him.
* He claims he was not aware of the stock.
* He sells the stock.
* The entire transaction took a few days.
* The NYT claims he is unethical because they told him about the stock and they were going to write a bad Russia story and he sold the stock with non public information. They NYT can not verify if he made money or not.
Mr. Ross’s office denied any impropriety, saying he disclosed the sale to the government ethics office, which “certified that the transactions documented are in compliance with federal ethics requirements.”
agip wrote:
grifters gonna grift
trumpers gonna trump
fish rots from the head
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/19/us/politics/wilbur-ross-shorted-stock.html
and also, the entire trump family needs to be prosecuted for tax fraud, since they were all caught cheating on taxes with their foundation. Zero tolerance man - let's have it out.
agip wrote:
no, no, no...we're in a zero tolerance world now, where babies are taken away from their mothers for crossing a line in the desert. So Ross signed something that was wrong, breaking the law. He should be arrested and jailed. I just want you to be consistent. Am I wrong to do so?
_its_baddude wrote:
I'll translate the story for you in clear language.
* The NYT is digging for dirt on all Trumpers.
* They find he held stock in a company associated with Russia.
* They contact him.
* He claims he was not aware of the stock.
* He sells the stock.
* The entire transaction took a few days.
* The NYT claims he is unethical because they told him about the stock and they were going to write a bad Russia story and he sold the stock with non public information. They NYT can not verify if he made money or not.
Mr. Ross’s office denied any impropriety, saying he disclosed the sale to the government ethics office, which “certified that the transactions documented are in compliance with federal ethics requirements.”
pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
What if this is a midterm election strategy to energize his base? Or, maybe he capitulates in October?
I think he is all in on whatever he does. Remember during the election most people around him were telling him to do things differently like apologize for that grab them by the p leak. He didn't listen and just charged forward. Undoubtedly, winning the election only strengthened his conviction. I think the wheels start to come off in October. He's on a high right now with his base, but the Mueller report will be released, the GOP will definitely lose many seats even if they keep the majority. You have the speaker leaving and more GOPers siding with Trump, that is causing huge concentration risk. When Trump takes a big enough hit the whole thing will collapse.
Look you lefty clowns. Don't you get it? Trump could personally murder 1000's of children at the border and we wouldn't care. He could help Bibi nuke Iran back to the stone age, and we'd cheer. He could be caught on video conspiring with Putin and Kim Jong-un to take over the world together, and we .....WOULD.....NOT....CARE.
As long as he triggers lib-t_a_r_ds, insults everyone we don't like, constantly acts like an A-hole, winks and nods to white power and racism, and lowers taxes on the rich, we LOVE him.
That's it. It's that f'n simple. So stop wasting your time.
These trumpers don't have a backbone or an ounce of dignity. Kirstjen is out there gladly playing the roles of lapdog and punching bag. Looks like she was confronted by activists while dining at a Mexican restaurant. I'm sure Gary would say she feared for her life with all those animals out there demanding that she help some brown children - how un-American of libs not to support such human rights abuses by the POTUS.
Now this is fascinating. The entire country is on fire over this phony immigration kids story, but the last four pages only have two posts about it here. Liberals around the world think this is the issue they can use to take Trump out, but people here have basically dropped it.
Fascinating captain.
DiscoGary wrote:
Now this is fascinating. The entire country is on fire over this phony immigration kids story, but the last four pages only have two posts about it here. Liberals around the world think this is the issue they can use to take Trump out, but people here have basically dropped it.
Fascinating captain.
No, we covered it extensively before the trade war stuff, go back a few more pages. Phony huh? Even your unethical orange god is starting to feel the heat.
Trollminator wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:
Now this is fascinating. The entire country is on fire over this phony immigration kids story, but the last four pages only have two posts about it here. Liberals around the world think this is the issue they can use to take Trump out, but people here have basically dropped it.
Fascinating captain.
No, we covered it extensively before the trade war stuff, go back a few more pages. Phony huh? Even your unethical orange god is starting to feel the heat.
It's phony as in the law has been on the books since 1997, and parents choosing to scam the US with a claim of asylum know they will be separated from their kids.
DiscoGary wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
No, we covered it extensively before the trade war stuff, go back a few more pages. Phony huh? Even your unethical orange god is starting to feel the heat.
It's phony as in the law has been on the books since 1997, and parents choosing to scam the US with a claim of asylum know they will be separated from their kids.
So you are saying that due to the fact that parents knowingly take the risk of being separated means that even if our government has the ability to prevent that separation (as we have practiced until now) we should just go ahead and separate them? Also, do you agree with this action as a deterrent, even if it isn't working?
Trollminator wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:
It's phony as in the law has been on the books since 1997, and parents choosing to scam the US with a claim of asylum know they will be separated from their kids.
So you are saying that due to the fact that parents knowingly take the risk of being separated means that even if our government has the ability to prevent that separation (as we have practiced until now) we should just go ahead and separate them? Also, do you agree with this action as a deterrent, even if it isn't working?
I think we should punish any adult who crosses the border and send back any children. You break the law, you do the time, and you get separated from your kids. That's the rule for everyone else. Why should it be different for illegal aliens?
Are you saying we should leave the border wide open and let fake claims of asylum force us to catch-and-release any group claiming asylum?
Build the wall.
Commonsense and knowledge wrote:
The effects of DJT are well documented. Its use has been allowed in some RED STATES. It is a first generation PEST and since then they have developed other PESTS that are highly effective but less persistent.
Don't let liars and idiot propagandists fool you.
^ FIXED that 4U
L L wrote:
pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
I find it very hard to believe he's [Cohen] out of cash... unless the "consulting" money he banked went up his nose.
The Trump cold shoulder might be enough to flip Cohen.
I wonder if the bank accounts of Essential Consulting have been frozen during this investigation.
If he is potentially being charged with money laundering through that business, he wouldn't be able to touch that money.
Cohen, like Trump, has laundered money hidden in overseas accounts. He would rather claim he is broke than spend his hidden millions—Trump loyalists love donating money to people to protect Trump. If Cohen ever gets out of jail expect him to live a lavish lifestyle; maybe even move overseas where his spending cannot be observed as easily.
Trollminator wrote:
And there you have it. EU is going to impose retaliatory tariffs. Trump is about to feel the consequences of throwing allies under the bus. He may think he can handle China on a 1-to-1 match, but when you account for the backlash from other trade partners the US will be in for a lot of pain. I hope he keeps this up so he won’t be in the WH any longer than he legally can be.
Expect Trump to soon write an Executive Order that requires uncontrolled, free trade between Russia and the US.
DiscoGary wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
So you are saying that due to the fact that parents knowingly take the risk of being separated means that even if our government has the ability to prevent that separation (as we have practiced until now) we should just go ahead and separate them? Also, do you agree with this action as a deterrent, even if it isn't working?
I think we should punish any adult who crosses the border and send back any children. You break the law, you do the time, and you get separated from your kids. That's the rule for everyone else. Why should it be different for illegal aliens?
Are you saying we should leave the border wide open and let fake claims of asylum force us to catch-and-release any group claiming asylum?
Build the wall.
Why not detain them as a family or deport them back as a family? There's so many options available and it seems like this administration went out of its way to enforce the worst possible one.
DiscoGary wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
So you are saying that due to the fact that parents knowingly take the risk of being separated means that even if our government has the ability to prevent that separation (as we have practiced until now) we should just go ahead and separate them? Also, do you agree with this action as a deterrent, even if it isn't working?
I think we should punish any adult who crosses the border and send back any children. You break the law, you do the time, and you get separated from your kids. That's the rule for everyone else. Why should it be different for illegal aliens?
Are you saying we should leave the border wide open and let fake claims of asylum force us to catch-and-release any group claiming asylum?
Build the wall.
But you realize separation and doing time are not mutually exclusive. What is the motive for separation now if it wasn't needed before? As a taxpayer I would argue I don't want the government to spend money imprisoning immigrants, I would rather process them out right away along with their children then. The kids are being released to shelters and not being sent back with their parents, so you agree this is not an effective policy?
Free Trade with Russia wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
And there you have it. EU is going to impose retaliatory tariffs. Trump is about to feel the consequences of throwing allies under the bus. He may think he can handle China on a 1-to-1 match, but when you account for the backlash from other trade partners the US will be in for a lot of pain. I hope he keeps this up so he won’t be in the WH any longer than he legally can be.
Expect Trump to soon write an Executive Order that requires uncontrolled, free trade between Russia and the US.
You joke but it could happen... he would just say they are the only honest nation not trying to lowball us.
Racket wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:
I think we should punish any adult who crosses the border and send back any children. You break the law, you do the time, and you get separated from your kids. That's the rule for everyone else. Why should it be different for illegal aliens?
Are you saying we should leave the border wide open and let fake claims of asylum force us to catch-and-release any group claiming asylum?
Build the wall.
Why not detain them as a family or deport them back as a family? There's so many options available and it seems like this administration went out of its way to enforce the worst possible one.
Trump separation ends like this. The parents are deported separately of their children. They have nothing when they are dropped off. The parents have no means of communication to reach their kids. The kids are deported later. The kids have no means of communication to reach their parents. Humpty Trump cannot out the families back together again. The odds of the parents reconnecting with their kids is astronomical. The kids become orphans.
DiscoGary wrote:
Now this is fascinating. The entire country is on fire over this phony immigration kids story, but the last four pages only have two posts about it here. Liberals around the world think this is the issue they can use to take Trump out, but people here have basically dropped it.
Fascinating captain.
it wouldn't be phony if you were one of the thousands of kids separated from their parents. Maybe if you were the 8 month old with no mother, it would not be phony?
What exaclty would make it real for you? Maybe if the kids were white? I'm just making some guesses here.