Allow me to borrow your football analogy. You know the guy that blames the refs and Goodell for all your team's problems and fails to realize a much bigger and deeper issue with the team and organization? That's you.
Allow me to borrow your football analogy. You know the guy that blames the refs and Goodell for all your team's problems and fails to realize a much bigger and deeper issue with the team and organization? That's you.
Ratical wrote:
pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
Trump's presidency has none of the traits listed below. Not one!
https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/fasci14chars.htmlInteresting source there. Hahahahaha
Oh, my! I just looked over those 14 traits. Trump is all of those. But that is nothing more than his personality.
Political scientist Dr. Lawrence Britt... Studying the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia), and Pinochet (Chile), Dr. Britt found they all had 14 elements in common. He calls these the identifying characteristics of fascism. The excerpt is in accordance with the magazine's policy. The 14 characteristics are:
Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
Supremacy of the Military
Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
Rampant Sexism
The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.
Controlled Mass Media
Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
Obsession with National Security
Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
Religion and Government are Intertwined
Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.
Corporate Power is Protected
The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
Labor Power is Suppressed
Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed .
Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.
Obsession with Crime and Punishment
Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
Fraudulent Elections
Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
hey remember the steele dossier? Among the many tidbits:
"If Cohen was in frequent contact with individuals who had knowledge of or played a role in the 2016 election interference, it would corroborate some aspects of the Steele Dossier. That report, compiled by former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele, suggested that Cohen may have played a central role in the coordination between Russia and the Trump circle. A report from Steele on October 18, 2016, states: “a Kremlin insider with direct access to the leadership confirmed that a key role in the secret TRUMP campaign/Kremlin relationship was being played by the Republican candidate’s personal lawyer Michael COHEN.”
Another Steele report, dated the next day, is titled “RUSSIA/US PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION: THE IMPORTANT ROLE OF TRUMP LAWYER, COHEN IN CAMPAIGN’S SECRET LIAISON WITH THE KREMLIN,” and that report says that Cohen took the lead as the liaison with the Kremlin following the departure of Paul Manafort, Trump’s campaign chairman during the summer of 2016."
.Now, I'd like to get to the bottom of Russian meddling, but I don't think that will be the main mueller findings. I think the mueller findings will be obstruction and tax evasion and maybe campaign finance crimes.
But actually finding collusion would be interesting eh.
Yep. Trump has that religion thing and govt all intertwined.
Corinthians the third, and all.
Cohen has a copy of the pee tape (as does Putin, of course)
Now if the pee tape gets out ... well, Trump supporters will still support him. Nothing will change.
L L wrote:
Cohen has a copy of the pee tape (as does Putin, of course)
Now if the pee tape gets out ... well, Trump supporters will still support him. Nothing will change.
Why wouldn't Trump supporters still support him even if the pee tape gets out? Seriously, who gives a sh!t (pun acknowledged) about Trump's sexual quirks?
PIO! wrote:
L L wrote:
Cohen has a copy of the pee tape (as does Putin, of course)
Now if the pee tape gets out ... well, Trump supporters will still support him. Nothing will change.
Why wouldn't Trump supporters still support him even if the pee tape gets out? Seriously, who gives a sh!t (pun acknowledged) about Trump's sexual quirks?
+1
they won't care
unless it means trump can't own the libs anymore
then they'll care.
PIO! wrote:
L L wrote:
Cohen has a copy of the pee tape (as does Putin, of course)
Now if the pee tape gets out ... well, Trump supporters will still support him. Nothing will change.
Why wouldn't Trump supporters still support him even if the pee tape gets out? Seriously, who gives a sh!t (pun acknowledged) about Trump's sexual quirks?
Certainly not Melania! Haha ha haha
Plus all those things will need maintaining and eventually replacing...
I’m sure it’ll all be fine.
The claim is that the Dossier is fake.
The pee tape is the most outrageous part of the Dossier and the reason people think the rest of the Dossier is fake.
Many things in the Dossier have been proven true.
If you had those items plus proof of the pee tape, then you would think the Dossier is the blue print to collusion.
But the conversation would turn from did he collude, to who cares if he colluded.
Trump said he can shoot someone in Times Square and not lose any supporters,
Giuliani said he could kill Comey and not get indicted.
He is conditioning his cult followers.
L L wrote:
He is conditioning his cult followers.
Fake news!
They were ready to believe anyone and anything long before Trump came along. The conditioning has been in the making for quite some time now!
If Trump said to postpone the 2020 presidential election, Gary, Rigged and the people at Fox news would be fine with that.
He may try to put this November's election on hold to keep that Republican majority.
They are actually Trumpublicans now.
That's the new party.
Gary, giving up even debating with the other side. Ignores a page of replies.
So Liberals don’t understand the world. ie. their views are not welcome in the debate.
And Liberals take a different view. You want to CHANGE their values or views of the world? Is that what you think a debate is for? Good luck.
Socialised healthcare is a thing. It works in many countries. Lots of people want it.
So answer me this oh wise one: what should a liberal person do? A person who is not going to change their world view.
PIO! wrote:
L L wrote:
Cohen has a copy of the pee tape (as does Putin, of course)
Now if the pee tape gets out ... well, Trump supporters will still support him. Nothing will change.
Why wouldn't Trump supporters still support him even if the pee tape gets out? Seriously, who gives a sh!t (pun acknowledged) about Trump's sexual quirks?
Yup. It could even be Ivanka peeing into Trump's mouth and that letting daddy play doctor with her. Trumpkins will still support Donald Hitler Trump.
quipper wrote:
PIO! wrote:
Why wouldn't Trump supporters still support him even if the pee tape gets out? Seriously, who gives a sh!t (pun acknowledged) about Trump's sexual quirks?
Certainly not Melania! Haha ha haha
What about the Melanie who Trump welcomed back "home." Melanie is the stand-in for Melania who has disappeared.
L L wrote:
If Trump said to postpone the 2020 presidential election, Gary, Rigged and the people at Fox news would be fine with that.
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This is a perfect example of someone in the liberal bleachers, listening to the their cheer leaders, and completely oblivious to the real world happening on the field. There is NO chance that Trump will call off the 2020 election, and if he did Fox News along with every Trump supporter would protest it.
The demonization has reached deranged levels. L L believes his own side's propaganda and as a result his world view is corrupted, and he can not predict outcomes based on what he believes. He ends up embarrassing himself with this kind of prediction. Its tragic and its dangerous, because anyone who believes this will think it's OK to kill people to stop it from happening.
L L wrote:
If Trump said to postpone the 2020 presidential election, Gary, Rigged and the people at Fox news would be fine with that.
He may try to put this November's election on hold to keep that Republican majority.
They are actually Trumpublicans now.
That's the new party.
Trump may well write and Executive Order that returns the 3/5th clause--certain people are 3/5ths of a full person--and claim that only those who sign Trump Loyalty Oaths are full people. Votes of non-loyalist would be 3/5ths value. Their dollars would be worth 3/5ths of the same dollar held by a Trump Loyalist.
You are a free market no government conservative and haven't made a peep against Trump's government overreach tariffs to control markets.
Simply because he's your guy.
meanwhile back in reality wrote:
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So answer me this oh wise one: what should a liberal person do? A person who is not going to change their world view.
I'm working on getting you out of the Rat Maze but until then don't kill anyone, no matter how much they look like a Nazi to you, and no matter how much you think they deserve it. They don't. Trust me.
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