Awsi Dooger wrote:
The Fokus wrote:
[quote]Flagpole wrote:
So, now Trump and his lawyers are floating...
Trump can pardon himself
Trump can win in 2020. I don't kid myself about that. Incumbents whose party has been in power only one term have a surreal advantage, the greatest situational boost in American politics. Only Carter in more than a century has lost in that setting.
George HW Bush only had one term.
kekistani wrote:
looks like the Leftist retard brigade is out in 'fool' force tonight...
what u brainlets fail to understand (and will probly never) is that ppl vote with their wallets.
based on issues that affect their daily lives, not the distant squawking and screeching about Russian boogeymen, not obtuse notions of "rayciiist" this and that - ppl dont care. ppl want easier, more comfortable lives. they want safety and security. they want to feel good.
the Blue Wave is a joke and everybody knows it.
enjoy your continued losing
The rule of law will take this president down.
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
Flagpole wrote:
The rule of law will take this president down.
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
no I know, and you'll be there to remind us just how prescient you really are
just like with your last great massive prediction
we're all lookin forward to it, believe me
kekistani wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
The rule of law will take this president down.
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
no I know, and you'll be there to remind us just how prescient you really are
just like with your last great massive prediction
we're all lookin forward to it, believe me
Be assured that I will be proven right in an epic way.
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
Awsi Dooger wrote:
The Fokus wrote:
Trump's newest ace attorney, Rudi, said today on one of the morning shows that Trump pardoning himself would lead to him being impeached.
Rudi is the perfect example of : Never prevent a conservative from sounding like a conservative.
Today was a absolute howl on the talk show circuit. Rudi said, "This is the reason you don't let the president testify. Our recollection keeps changing..."
I nearly fell over in a seizure of laughter. It was the mid 2018 version of alternative facts.
Trump can win in 2020. I don't kid myself about that. Incumbents whose party has been in power only one term have a surreal advantage, the greatest situational boost in American politics. Only Carter in more than a century has lost in that setting. Besides, there is no limit to what Trump would do to avoid an embarrassing defeat. Jeffrey Toobin has already predicted that the Democratic nominee -- no matter who it is -- will be under investigation before the election. Trump adheres to the Roy Cohn mantra of lie, cheat, lie, cheat, lie and cheat again. The bottom line is all that matters.
However, the Republican Party is suffering long term and the margins are staggering. Mike Murphy the GOP consultant pointed out that Trump would lose the 2016 race if held again right now, solely via the number of his supporters who have died subsequently. No kidding. The so-called Silent Generation born between 1928 and 1945 is the only thing keeping the GOP afloat. Every subsequent generation leans left and young voters are "frighteningly liberal," according to Republican pollster Frank Luntz.
Unfortunately the left leaning programming like MSNBC has clueless types like Rachel Maddow anchoring those programs. She can only look backwards. That's why the party had no idea about the white working class problem in 2016, and it's the reason they are spending too much time fixated on Russia right now instead of funding and emphasizing college campus registration drives. Now that would scare the hell out of Republicans, if someone like Maddow took her show on the road every week to one campus after another, pushing for newly registered voters. It would turn into a mini version of College Gameday. Instead Maddow sits in the studio and smirks about something from a year or two ago that probably won't amount to anything.
Good post. I would say the media is not responsible for pushing any agenda that doesn’t make them money. The idea that networks are politically driven is only true to the extent their bottom line benefits from it, which it does. So again, they don’t actually care about the politics, they care about ratings. Both FOX and CNN are great business models, hard for any successful and intelligent businessperson to argue that.
I also think they could be doing more to help the political situation but believe it or not what they are doing will also work well. They are beating the Russia investigation into the masses 24/7, it does stick, no matter how negative and backward looking. Given the small state-to-state margins Trump won by, the chances of him losing are that much higher after this $hitshow of a first term.
The lunacy and desperation of the Trump Administration. Uh oh...
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/03/politics/rudy-giuliani-trump-shoot-comey-impeachment/index.html
Flagpole wrote:
Awsi Dooger wrote:
Trump can win in 2020. I don't kid myself about that. Incumbents whose party has been in power only one term have a surreal advantage, the greatest situational boost in American politics. Only Carter in more than a century has lost in that setting.
George HW Bush only had one term.
Take a little longer to read before you post, FP. GHWB's party had been in power for three terms.
Yeah, about that... wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
George HW Bush only had one term.
Take a little longer to read before you post, FP. GHWB's party had been in power for three terms.
Mice like peanut butter.
for real wrote:
https://i.imgur.com/RAfUf6i.png
This ^
Yeah, about that... wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
George HW Bush only had one term.
Take a little longer to read before you post, FP. GHWB's party had been in power for three terms.
I take it you don't know much about this Flagpole fella? He's not what you'd call a "smart person", or what that "lives in reality."
Dude hasn't been right on a prediction for over 2 years now.
The FBI's conspiratorial actions are being exposed in so many areas now, and are coming back to bite them in the aishe.
flyswatter wrote:
The FBI's conspiratorial actions are being exposed in so many areas now, and are coming back to bite them in the aishe.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/trump-lawyers-reveal-previously-unknown-evidence-in-michael-flynn-case
Does the department of justice, FBI, or any investigative body have to tell the president they are investigating those in his circle? Especially if they think that investigation will lead back to the president?
Throwing mud at the FBI and the criminal justice system in general is nothing more than a political play to avoid impeachment. It worked for Clinton....
An official indictment won’t happen, but there will be enough to bring impeachment, which is a political process affected by public opinion.
Alan
Trollminator wrote:
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I would say the media is not responsible for pushing any agenda that doesn’t make them money. The idea that networks are politically driven is only true to the extent their bottom line benefits from it, which it does. So again, they don’t actually care about the politics, they care about ratings.
....
I heard that for about 20 years, back in the day when they were no alternative news sources and every outlet was liberal. Liberals kept saying "Hey, they tell stories that make money. If there were a market for something else, don't you think someone would capitalize on it? What's wrong with your free market?"
But there were no free markets. There was limited public bandwidth and Democrats had set up Equal Time and Fairness Doctrine rules which effectively locked out anyone who challenged liberal orthodoxy.
Then along came Reagan. He killed the fairness doctrine, and Limbaugh immediately popped up on the radio as a conservative voice ... and his audience grew and grew and grew ... and he got richer and richer and richer ... and not ONE old school Main Stream Media outlet made any attempt to take Limbaugh's market share from him ... proving that there had ALWAYS been a market for a different take on the news, that it had been explicitly suppressed for decades, and that the MSM wasn't driven by the bottom but are there only to push a liberal agenda.
Even today we see the old school MSM burning every last ounce of their dwindling credibility trying to take down Trump and demonize conservatives. What will they do when all of their credibility has been burned to ashes?
Once again I have been proven right, and I was right back when I got no help from any national conservative voices. I had to see that on my own. I escaped the Maze at a very early age. When do liberals apologize to me for getting that wrong? Where do I go to collect my Nobel Prize for political science?
DiscoGary wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
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I would say the media is not responsible for pushing any agenda that doesn’t make them money. The idea that networks are politically driven is only true to the extent their bottom line benefits from it, which it does. So again, they don’t actually care about the politics, they care about ratings.
....
I heard that for about 20 years, back in the day when they were no alternative news sources and every outlet was liberal. Liberals kept saying "Hey, they tell stories that make money. If there were a market for something else, don't you think someone would capitalize on it? What's wrong with your free market?"
But there were no free markets. There was limited public bandwidth and Democrats had set up Equal Time and Fairness Doctrine rules which effectively locked out anyone who challenged liberal orthodoxy.
Then along came Reagan. He killed the fairness doctrine, and Limbaugh immediately popped up on the radio as a conservative voice ... and his audience grew and grew and grew ... and he got richer and richer and richer ... and not ONE old school Main Stream Media outlet made any attempt to take Limbaugh's market share from him ... proving that there had ALWAYS been a market for a different take on the news, that it had been explicitly suppressed for decades, and that the MSM wasn't driven by the bottom but are there only to push a liberal agenda.
Even today we see the old school MSM burning every last ounce of their dwindling credibility trying to take down Trump and demonize conservatives. What will they do when all of their credibility has been burned to ashes?
Once again I have been proven right, and I was right back when I got no help from any national conservative voices. I had to see that on my own. I escaped the Maze at a very early age. When do liberals apologize to me for getting that wrong? Where do I go to collect my Nobel Prize for political science?
I have not been audience to such sophomoric understanding of even basic economic and political principles since my undergraduate days. I must confess, it provides as much amusement to me now as it did then.
Flagpole wrote:
So, now Trump and his lawyers are floating...
Trump can pardon himself
Trump can't be subpoenaed
Trump can't obstruct justice
Ha! Even Chris Christie says that's BS.
Even Mr Kellyanne Conway says Trump is full of BS.
Flagpole wrote:
So, now Trump and his lawyers are floating...
Trump can pardon himself
Trump can't be subpoenaed
Trump can't obstruct justice
This also implies Trump is free to do anything he likes. The US Constitution does not apply to him.
That pesky emoluments clause is out the door. Accepting bribes is a-okay. Trump is free to make as many personal business deals using foreign bribe money or mob money as he likes.
DiscoGary wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
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I would say the media is not responsible for pushing any agenda that doesn’t make them money. The idea that networks are politically driven is only true to the extent their bottom line benefits from it, which it does. So again, they don’t actually care about the politics, they care about ratings.
....
I heard that for about 20 years, back in the day when they were no alternative news sources and every outlet was liberal. Liberals kept saying "Hey, they tell stories that make money. If there were a market for something else, don't you think someone would capitalize on it? What's wrong with your free market?"
But there were no free markets. There was limited public bandwidth and Democrats had set up Equal Time and Fairness Doctrine rules which effectively locked out anyone who challenged liberal orthodoxy.
Then along came Reagan. He killed the fairness doctrine, and Limbaugh immediately popped up on the radio as a conservative voice ... and his audience grew and grew and grew ... and he got richer and richer and richer ... and not ONE old school Main Stream Media outlet made any attempt to take Limbaugh's market share from him ... proving that there had ALWAYS been a market for a different take on the news, that it had been explicitly suppressed for decades, and that the MSM wasn't driven by the bottom but are there only to push a liberal agenda.
Even today we see the old school MSM burning every last ounce of their dwindling credibility trying to take down Trump and demonize conservatives. What will they do when all of their credibility has been burned to ashes?
Once again I have been proven right, and I was right back when I got no help from any national conservative voices. I had to see that on my own. I escaped the Maze at a very early age. When do liberals apologize to me for getting that wrong? Where do I go to collect my Nobel Prize for political science?
1) No one is demonizing conservatives. You could argue that people and organizations are demonizing TRUMP and his followers, but as Boehner and Kasich and many others have said, those aren't conservatives, those aren't the GOP.
2) By MSM, you mean any media that isn't biased for Trump...just to be clear. The credibility of the MSM is only dwindling in the minds of Trumpers like you, which, as we know, is less than half the population, so you are in the minority.
3) Conservatism as it had been defined before Trump meant a strict adherence to the Constitution. Your Presidential hero thumbs his nose at the Constitution. So, you can stop saying we are demonizing Conservatives. That is simply not true. The demonizing is of Trump, but even that isn't needed as he has proven time and time again that HE is a demon.
4) You haven't been proven right about anything.
Mueller is coming.
The clown, YOUR clown, is done.
DiscoGary wrote:
. . . Once again I have been proven right, and I was right back when I got no help from any national conservative voices. I had to see that on my own. I escaped the Maze at a very early age. When do liberals apologize to me for getting that wrong? Where do I go to collect my Nobel Prize for political science?
The general pattern seems to be that you weave some theory supported by selected facts, ignore any contrary evidence, and then declare yourself victor. Thus you can expect to collect your Nobel Prize shortly after you've been made the sole member of the Nobel committee.
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