Auntie Quated wrote:
Because the electoral college only served a purpose while America was expanding into voterless territories. It is long past time to go with the popular vote for the presidency.
Faaaaaaaalse.
How about the popular vote method that got Roy Moore into the Senate election? The popular vote NEEDS moderation to quell the base instincts of attempting to elect racist pedophiles.
Changes to the electoral college to improve transparency would be good.
pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
Auntie Quated wrote:
Because the electoral college only served a purpose while America was expanding into voterless territories. It is long past time to go with the popular vote for the presidency.
Faaaaaaaalse.
How about the popular vote method that got Roy Moore into the Senate election? The popular vote NEEDS moderation to quell the base instincts of attempting to elect racist pedophiles.
Changes to the electoral college to improve transparency would be good.
Why the fvck do people make this ^ argument? How the hell does the electoral college system protect the US from folks with base instincts?
Seems like it did an outstanding job in protecting us from an orange ignoramus. LOL
Fraunces Tavern wrote:
Have you looked at a list of the people that Obama pardoned? Murderers and terrorists.
Not quite, bro. Obama only pardoned a few people and they were mostly wrongly accused.
Meanwhile in the real world Trump signed the Right to Try law for terminally ill patients, which makes it much easier to try experimental drugs and treatments. I think we can all agree that this is a win for everyone, and it has been long overdue.
MeullNevClownForev wrote:
Show proof of collusion... or obstruction... or being a meanie... that they've been talking about for 2 years now. Just a shred of hard evidence. Anything. Show it. Do it.
I know there is no yesterday in your world, but, Nixon served almost two terms before being forced to resign.
How about Cinton? How long did it take Congress to find a morals charge? What was the original claim Starr was supposed to investigate?
I still don't understand the resistance to an investigation. Trump is squeaky clean, right? The investigation will show it to be true! Just wait and see!
Oh, wait, there are already numerous felony pleas and multiple felonies pending for Trump campaign workers. Sad!
Flagpole wrote:
Martha Stewart - Fraud related to a stock sale. Not exactly what Trump will face, but basically he's saying that fraud is ok..
Did Obama think fraud was ok too?
pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
MeullNevClownForev wrote:
Show proof of collusion... or obstruction... or being a meanie... that they've been talking about for 2 years now. Just a shred of hard evidence. Anything. Show it. Do it.
I know there is no yesterday in your world, but, Nixon served almost two terms before being forced to resign.
How about Cinton? How long did it take Congress to find a morals charge? What was the original claim Starr was supposed to investigate?
I still don't understand the resistance to an investigation. Trump is squeaky clean, right? The investigation will show it to be true! Just wait and see!
Oh, wait, there are already numerous felony pleas and multiple felonies pending for Trump campaign workers. Sad!
But nothing on Trump. Sad, indeed.
Fraunces Tavern wrote:
Have you looked at a list of the people that Obama pardoned? Murderers and terrorists.
It's not the pardoning that's the problem necessarily. It's the REASON for the pardoning. Trump is a bad bad guy.
DAT Truth wrote:
pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
I know there is no yesterday in your world, but, Nixon served almost two terms before being forced to resign.
How about Cinton? How long did it take Congress to find a morals charge? What was the original claim Starr was supposed to investigate?
I still don't understand the resistance to an investigation. Trump is squeaky clean, right? The investigation will show it to be true! Just wait and see!
Oh, wait, there are already numerous felony pleas and multiple felonies pending for Trump campaign workers. Sad!
But nothing on Trump. Sad, indeed.
It's coming for Trump...big time.
Flagpole wrote:
DAT Truth wrote:
But nothing on Trump. Sad, indeed.
It's coming for Trump...big time.
I’m hopeful, but it is highly likely he goes through this untouched.
Flagpole wrote:
Fraunces Tavern wrote:
Have you looked at a list of the people that Obama pardoned? Murderers and terrorists.
It's not the pardoning that's the problem necessarily. It's the REASON for the pardoning. Trump is a bad bad guy.
Can someone turn the stupid down on the flagbot
Flagpole wrote:
Fraunces Tavern wrote:
Have you looked at a list of the people that Obama pardoned? Murderers and terrorists.
It's not the pardoning that's the problem necessarily. It's the REASON for the pardoning. Trump is a bad bad guy.
And I thought the loons on the right had the market cornered on lunatic conspiracy theories.
L L wrote:
Trump won the majority of electoral votes by sparking further divisiveness in swing states and doing a sales job that he was the honest one. And people bought it.
So, explain why Hillary got more votes overall?
You are really a simpleton LL.
She got more votes overall because of the hugely liberal state of California, period.
Were you considered "special" in school?
You cannot compare that to other elections, as you liberals do over and over.
One state out of 50 got her a big bump in the popular vote and 55 electoral votes.
Where in God's great name are you lost?
Do you understand logic, or is this more of that "let's move people from one state to another" logic, then she would have won. That is clearly a demented thought.
Dems and the Super Delegate wrote:
L L wrote:
Trump won the majority of electoral votes by sparking further divisiveness in swing states and doing a sales job that he was the honest one. And people bought it.
So, explain why Hillary got more votes overall?
You are really a simpleton LL.
She got more votes overall because of the hugely liberal state of California, period.
Were you considered "special" in school?
You cannot compare that to other elections, as you liberals do over and over.
One state out of 50 got her a big bump in the popular vote and 55 electoral votes.
Where in God's great name are you lost?
Do you understand logic, or is this more of that "let's move people from one state to another" logic, then she would have won. That is clearly a demented thought.
You bought into Hillary's crap and she'd been a politician for how many years? So what's the difference? It just shows that you learned nothing of what she did as a Senator and First Lady Crook!
Dems and the Super Delegate wrote:
L L wrote:
Trump won the majority of electoral votes by sparking further divisiveness in swing states and doing a sales job that he was the honest one. And people bought it.
So, explain why Hillary got more votes overall?
You are really a simpleton LL.
She got more votes overall because of the hugely liberal state of California, period.
Were you considered "special" in school?
You cannot compare that to other elections, as you liberals do over and over.
One state out of 50 got her a big bump in the popular vote and 55 electoral votes.
Where in God's great name are you lost?
Do you understand logic, or is this more of that "let's move people from one state to another" logic, then she would have won. That is clearly a demented thought.
Hi mallmo.
Clinton received 65,853,652 votes
Trump received 62,985,134 votes
That is, Clinton received 2,868,518 more votes than Trump. Oh wait, but we should not really count the votes of some Americans because they live in California! That is clearly a demented thought.
pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
MeullNevClownForev wrote:
Show proof of collusion... or obstruction... or being a meanie... that they've been talking about for 2 years now. Just a shred of hard evidence. Anything. Show it. Do it.
I still don't understand the resistance to an investigation. Trump is squeaky clean, right? The investigation will show it to be true! Just wait and see!
Oh, wait, there are already numerous felony pleas and multiple felonies pending for Trump campaign workers. Sad!
I love the fact that everyone assumes Cohen and Stone are dead guilty and the only question is if they will turn on trump. I mean even right wing culture warriors assume Trump is guilty of crimes, but hey Gorsuch.
Today: ‘I Will Never Roll on Donald Trump,’ Promises Definitely Innocent Adviser Roger Stone"
Votes and Stuff wrote:
Dems and the Super Delegate wrote:
You are really a simpleton LL.
She got more votes overall because of the hugely liberal state of California, period.
Were you considered "special" in school?
You cannot compare that to other elections, as you liberals do over and over.
One state out of 50 got her a big bump in the popular vote and 55 electoral votes.
Where in God's great name are you lost?
Do you understand logic, or is this more of that "let's move people from one state to another" logic, then she would have won. That is clearly a demented thought.
Hi mallmo.
Clinton received 65,853,652 votes
Trump received 62,985,134 votes
That is, Clinton received 2,868,518 more votes than Trump. Oh wait, but we should not really count the votes of some Americans because they live in California! That is clearly a demented thought.
Those were the rules of the game. Trump didn't need ANY votes in CA to win, so he didn't campaign there at all. If Trump needed more votes in CA to win then he would have been there and done what was necessary to win.
Votes and Stuff wrote:
Dems and the Super Delegate wrote:
You are really a simpleton LL.
She got more votes overall because of the hugely liberal state of California, period.
Were you considered "special" in school?
You cannot compare that to other elections, as you liberals do over and over.
One state out of 50 got her a big bump in the popular vote and 55 electoral votes.
Where in God's great name are you lost?
Do you understand logic, or is this more of that "let's move people from one state to another" logic, then she would have won. That is clearly a demented thought.
Hi mallmo.
Clinton received 65,853,652 votes
Trump received 62,985,134 votes
That is, Clinton received 2,868,518 more votes than Trump. Oh wait, but we should not really count the votes of some Americans because they live in California! That is clearly a demented thought.
and remember all those shrubs and rocks in Wyoming and Montana that get votes in the electoral college. Even they are more important than Californians.
blahgovich wrote:
Votes and Stuff wrote:
Hi mallmo.
Clinton received 65,853,652 votes
Trump received 62,985,134 votes
That is, Clinton received 2,868,518 more votes than Trump. Oh wait, but we should not really count the votes of some Americans because they live in California! That is clearly a demented thought.
and remember all those shrubs and rocks in Wyoming and Montana that get votes in the electoral college. Even they are more important than Californians.
This fact will always hit a nerve with Trump and his supporters. It reflects Trump’s life well - despite cheating and operating unethically to get ahead, he is never accepted as a winner. He tried so desperately to be a member of the Manhattan high society but was despised across the board and seen as phony and blowhard.
DiscoGary wrote:
Meanwhile in the real world Trump signed the Right to Try law for terminally ill patients, which makes it much easier to try experimental drugs and treatments. I think we can all agree that this is a win for everyone, and it has been long overdue.
It sounds good but could be a double edged sword.
Suppose someone has 6 months to live and the law allows a doctor to give that person an unapproved experimental drug and they die the next day directly because of that drug.
Is a waiver signed by the family good enough to protect that doctor from a lawsuit?
I'm not saying that it is a bad law, but I am saying it isn't clearly a win for everyone when it will surely lead to expedited deaths for some.