BREAKING NEWS!
Russian oligarch met with Michael Cohen at Trump Tower during transition [Jan 2017] *
* Cohen has a office adjacent to Trump's office.
STORY VERSION 1
STORY VERSION 2
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/25/us/politics/michael-cohen-viktor-vekselberg-trump-tower.html
Trump has been wonderful fodder for stand up comics. Almost too easy a target, but nonetheless he’s spurred some brilliant material. Anybody see John Mulaney’s bit? I don’t want to spoil the surprise, but google John mulaney horse in a hospital and see if you can find it. You’re welcome!
PIO! wrote:
Trump wins wrote:
A $500 million bribe from China to finance a Trump Resort in Asia.
A $1 billion bribe from Qatar to bailout of the 666 Kushner fiasco.
Nearly $1 billion, just in 2017, billed to the government by Trump businesses.
Agreed.
So much winning for . . .
Simple. Here's your answer Liberals.
Go to 9:41 in the video till 10:06 There's your candidate, the one you supported who stole millions of dollars, yes, she stole it. Funny you guys never mention this;) Yeah, she's sooo honest I can't stand it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-bXCxcM0HAPIO! wrote:
PIO! wrote:
Agreed.
So much winning for . . .
Simple. Here's your answer Liberals.
Go to 9:41 in the video till 10:06 There's your candidate, the one you supported who stole millions of dollars, yes, she stole it. Funny you guys never mention this;) Yeah, she's sooo honest I can't stand it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-bXCxcM0HA
Deflection, deflection, deflection, false allegations and unsubstantiated conspiracy rumours.
Putin and George Orwell taught you well.
Trumpettes are NOT Americans!
Disco-Rigged-jaminloper wrote:
PIO! wrote:
Simple. Here's your answer Liberals.
Go to 9:41 in the video till 10:06 There's your candidate, the one you supported who stole millions of dollars, yes, she stole it. Funny you guys never mention this;) Yeah, she's sooo honest I can't stand it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-bXCxcM0HADeflection, deflection, deflection, false allegations and unsubstantiated conspiracy rumours.
Putin and George Orwell taught you well.
Yep, we Democrats deflect what our own side does over and over. She was a crook, I can admit that much, but we didn't have any other via candidates to vote for. The left sunk to a new level when she was chosen to be our first choice. She stole money for pay for her daughter's wedding and got away with it. Had I known, I would not have voted for her. Bummer.
Disco-Rigged-jaminloper wrote:
Yep, we Democrats deflect what our own side does over and over. She was a crook, I can admit that much, but we didn't have any other via candidates to vote for. The left sunk to a new level when she was chosen to be our first choice. She stole money for pay for her daughter's wedding and got away with it. Had I known, I would not have voted for her. Bummer.
Who? It was so long ago it doesn't matter. That's Trump reasoning, so, it's impervious to question or doubt.
Trump is a crude swindler with a rich father. Not much glory in that.
Disco-Rigged-jaminloper wrote:
Notice how the Trumpettes aren't denying a single allegation against trump.
All they can do is spew false allegations about Hillary and Obama.
Trump is indefensible so they don't try to defend him. But since they're too stupid or stubborn to admit they support a criminal, they'll deflect and deny. George Orwell and Putin taught you well.
Am I the only one who notices how disciplined and consistent the theme of the post are? Very likely paid trolls. Unlike our dear friend DiscoGary whose replies to posts are quite nuanced, suggesting Dear Gary is real.
Here's a hilarious example of paid trolls gone horribly wrong.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/26/diamond-and-silk-congress-hearing-1116887Diamond and Silk made multiple false and dubious statements during their House testimony, which was under oath. One that garnered the most attention: that they had never been paid by the Trump campaign. Both Reps. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX) and Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY) pressed the sisters on their claims that they’d never received payment from the Trump campaign, even though Federal Election Commission filings show they’d been paid $1,274.94 for “field consulting” work.
I think I'm in the wrong business.
Disco-Rigged-jaminloper wrote:
Simple. Here's your answer Liberals.
Go to 9:41 in the video till 10:06 There's your candidate, the one you supported who stole millions of dollars, yes, she stole it. Funny you guys never mention this;) Yeah, she's sooo honest I can't stand it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-bXCxcM0HA
Deflection, deflection, deflection, false allegations and unsubstantiated conspiracy rumours.
Putin and George Orwell taught you well.[/quote]
Yep, we Democrats deflect what our own side does over and over. She was a crook, I can admit that much, but we didn't have any other via candidates to vote for. The left sunk to a new level when she was chosen to be our first choice. She stole money for pay for her daughter's wedding and got away with it. Had I known, I would not have voted for her. Bummer.[/quote]
As usual you're lying.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/01/04/did-the-clinton-foundation-pay-for-chelseas-wedding/?utm_term=.f9d712564cb3Very interesting how "diamond and silk" are really unpopular at all except in quite specific locales and probably only spikes on a Trump mention...
Until we get to their Congressional comedy routine. They did that all on their own.
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=diamond%20and%20silk%20youtube&date=today%205-y&geo=US
pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
Diamond and Silk made multiple false and dubious statements during their House testimony, which was under oath. One that garnered the most attention: that they had never been paid by the Trump campaign. Both Reps. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX) and Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY) pressed the sisters on their claims that they’d never received payment from the Trump campaign, even though Federal Election Commission filings show they’d been paid $1,274.94 for “field consulting” work.
I think I'm in the wrong business.
That was class. They sound like Kanye, taking the contrarian ignoramus view like there is absolutely nothing wrong with it. This is just symptomatic of the new low standard Trump has introduced, and he is symptomatic of the new low standard the GOP has pushed, and they are symptomatic of the new level of corruption the conservative lobbies have pushed for. This is why ultimately it is critical for societies to embrace positive value systems that encourage honesty and unity and shun people like Trump.
Weekly recap: trumpers get really excited about Trump’s completely fabricated spy comment, George P will be sentenced, new ugly details of Trump Tower meeting emerge, NK shafts Trump, I’m sure I’m missing about a dozen other developments, but not this one: trumpers still think he’s winning and that this is all excellent news for America.
I am trying to understand the actual positions of Trump supporters. Can you answer these questions without mentioning Obama, Clinton, or using any Trumpisms or "talking points"? (Doubtful). Just answer in your own words with your own affirmative opinion--what you are for, NOT what you are against (i.e. whataboutisms or trying to draw equivalency).
1) Do you believe the intelligence reports, both domestic and international, that conclude that Russia interfered with our election and that that is a really big deal-we do not want other countries interfering in our elections?
2) Do you believe that we should investigate and must know the answer to how and why Russia interfered with our election?
3) Do you believe that Russian interference in our election could be a complex answer that is a combination of misinformation, bribes, influence, extortion...and so investigating financial transactions, meetings, travel, and anything else that could create either Kompromat or a quid quo pro arrangement must be examined?
4) Do you believe the Robert Mueller is a highly respected and ethical American and investigator and that his motives and process should not be obstructed or maligned before he has even completed the investigation?
5) Do you believe that Donald Trump is behaving like an innocent person?
6) Have you read a non-Conservative media summary of the investigation and, if so, do you believe that the investigation has uncovered much that is troubling and so the investigation is justified?
7) Do you want to know the truth of what happened, or do you not want to know the truth because it might have an impact on Donald Trump's Presidency?
8) Is Trump's criminality important to you? If he has in fact obstructed justice, or conspired in some degree or another with foreign nationals, or sold access to the White House, or laundered money, or committed other crimes either to gain office or to hold office, do you believe he should be held accountable or do you believe the President is above the law or that you don't care about the laws in this case because you want him to remain in office?
9) Do you believe what Trump says over findings by intelligence and investigators?
10) If we assume that Trump is completely innocent, do you believe that his Presidency (the way he conducts himself and the people he surrounds himself with) is a model for the office and a success that is improving the country and the world--this is what the we need more of in future Presidents?
11) Finally, do you think it would be good for the country for him to resign, even if completely innocent, just because his overall effect on the country is too destructive--that he has turned Americans against one another, he has weakened our institutions, he has undermined trust in Presidency, that his policies are too impulsive and motives too opaque--even if you like him and feel he has represented you that he has not representing the whole of the country, the majority of whom feel that he governs for just his base and own self interest? Should we have a President that caters to so few and ignores the rest--and who profits directly while in office from his own decisions? In short, even if you agree with some of his politics, can he still be a bad President who should resign because he can no longer be an effective leader for all?
Thank you.
Hambean MacLanahan wrote:
I am trying to understand the actual positions of Trump supporters. Can you answer these questions without mentioning Obama, Clinton, or using any Trumpisms or "talking points"? (Doubtful). Just answer in your own words with your own affirmative opinion--what you are for, NOT what you are against (i.e. whataboutisms or trying to draw equivalency).
1) Do you believe the intelligence reports, both domestic and international, that conclude that Russia interfered with our election and that that is a really big deal-we do not want other countries interfering in our elections?
2) Do you believe that we should investigate and must know the answer to how and why Russia interfered with our election?
3) Do you believe that Russian interference in our election could be a complex answer that is a combination of misinformation, bribes, influence, extortion...and so investigating financial transactions, meetings, travel, and anything else that could create either Kompromat or a quid quo pro arrangement must be examined?
4) Do you believe the Robert Mueller is a highly respected and ethical American and investigator and that his motives and process should not be obstructed or maligned before he has even completed the investigation?
5) Do you believe that Donald Trump is behaving like an innocent person?
6) Have you read a non-Conservative media summary of the investigation and, if so, do you believe that the investigation has uncovered much that is troubling and so the investigation is justified?
7) Do you want to know the truth of what happened, or do you not want to know the truth because it might have an impact on Donald Trump's Presidency?
8) Is Trump's criminality important to you? If he has in fact obstructed justice, or conspired in some degree or another with foreign nationals, or sold access to the White House, or laundered money, or committed other crimes either to gain office or to hold office, do you believe he should be held accountable or do you believe the President is above the law or that you don't care about the laws in this case because you want him to remain in office?
9) Do you believe what Trump says over findings by intelligence and investigators?
10) If we assume that Trump is completely innocent, do you believe that his Presidency (the way he conducts himself and the people he surrounds himself with) is a model for the office and a success that is improving the country and the world--this is what the we need more of in future Presidents?
11) Finally, do you think it would be good for the country for him to resign, even if completely innocent, just because his overall effect on the country is too destructive--that he has turned Americans against one another, he has weakened our institutions, he has undermined trust in Presidency, that his policies are too impulsive and motives too opaque--even if you like him and feel he has represented you that he has not representing the whole of the country, the majority of whom feel that he governs for just his base and own self interest? Should we have a President that caters to so few and ignores the rest--and who profits directly while in office from his own decisions? In short, even if you agree with some of his politics, can he still be a bad President who should resign because he can no longer be an effective leader for all?
Thank you.
1)No
2)No
3)No
4)No
5)Yes
6)Yes. No
7)I want to know that truth because it will exonerate Trump and condemn Obama.
8)What criminality?
9)Yes
10)Yes
11)No resignation
Summary: Trump's doing a great job and the Obama's Deep State is engaged in a very dangerous attempt to overthrow the results of the election. It will be very bad for the country if they succeed. The fact that they tried has already done an enormous amount of damage.
DiscoGary wrote:
Hambean MacLanahan wrote:
I am trying to understand the actual positions of Trump supporters. Can you answer these questions without mentioning Obama, Clinton, or using any Trumpisms or "talking points"? (Doubtful). Just answer in your own words with your own affirmative opinion--what you are for, NOT what you are against (i.e. whataboutisms or trying to draw equivalency).
1) Do you believe the intelligence reports, both domestic and international, that conclude that Russia interfered with our election and that that is a really big deal-we do not want other countries interfering in our elections?
2) Do you believe that we should investigate and must know the answer to how and why Russia interfered with our election?
3) Do you believe that Russian interference in our election could be a complex answer that is a combination of misinformation, bribes, influence, extortion...and so investigating financial transactions, meetings, travel, and anything else that could create either Kompromat or a quid quo pro arrangement must be examined?
4) Do you believe the Robert Mueller is a highly respected and ethical American and investigator and that his motives and process should not be obstructed or maligned before he has even completed the investigation?
5) Do you believe that Donald Trump is behaving like an innocent person?
6) Have you read a non-Conservative media summary of the investigation and, if so, do you believe that the investigation has uncovered much that is troubling and so the investigation is justified?
7) Do you want to know the truth of what happened, or do you not want to know the truth because it might have an impact on Donald Trump's Presidency?
8) Is Trump's criminality important to you? If he has in fact obstructed justice, or conspired in some degree or another with foreign nationals, or sold access to the White House, or laundered money, or committed other crimes either to gain office or to hold office, do you believe he should be held accountable or do you believe the President is above the law or that you don't care about the laws in this case because you want him to remain in office?
9) Do you believe what Trump says over findings by intelligence and investigators?
10) If we assume that Trump is completely innocent, do you believe that his Presidency (the way he conducts himself and the people he surrounds himself with) is a model for the office and a success that is improving the country and the world--this is what the we need more of in future Presidents?
11) Finally, do you think it would be good for the country for him to resign, even if completely innocent, just because his overall effect on the country is too destructive--that he has turned Americans against one another, he has weakened our institutions, he has undermined trust in Presidency, that his policies are too impulsive and motives too opaque--even if you like him and feel he has represented you that he has not representing the whole of the country, the majority of whom feel that he governs for just his base and own self interest? Should we have a President that caters to so few and ignores the rest--and who profits directly while in office from his own decisions? In short, even if you agree with some of his politics, can he still be a bad President who should resign because he can no longer be an effective leader for all?
Thank you.
1)No
2)No
3)No
4)No
5)Yes
6)Yes. No
7)I want to know that truth because it will exonerate Trump and condemn Obama.
8)What criminality?
9)Yes
10)Yes
11)No resignation
Summary: Trump's doing a great job and the Obama's Deep State is engaged in a very dangerous attempt to overthrow the results of the election. It will be very bad for the country if they succeed. The fact that they tried has already done an enormous amount of damage.
At least an honest and straightforward answer, even if it does reveal you are delusional and/or are phenomenally stupid. But atleast nearly no attempts of deflection. I appreciate that.
DiscoGary wrote:
Hambean MacLanahan wrote:
I am trying to understand the actual positions of Trump supporters. Can you answer these questions without mentioning Obama, Clinton, or using any Trumpisms or "talking points"? (Doubtful). Just answer in your own words with your own affirmative opinion--what you are for, NOT what you are against (i.e. whataboutisms or trying to draw equivalency).
1) Do you believe the intelligence reports, both domestic and international, that conclude that Russia interfered with our election and that that is a really big deal-we do not want other countries interfering in our elections?
2) Do you believe that we should investigate and must know the answer to how and why Russia interfered with our election?
3) Do you believe that Russian interference in our election could be a complex answer that is a combination of misinformation, bribes, influence, extortion...and so investigating financial transactions, meetings, travel, and anything else that could create either Kompromat or a quid quo pro arrangement must be examined?
4) Do you believe the Robert Mueller is a highly respected and ethical American and investigator and that his motives and process should not be obstructed or maligned before he has even completed the investigation?
5) Do you believe that Donald Trump is behaving like an innocent person?
6) Have you read a non-Conservative media summary of the investigation and, if so, do you believe that the investigation has uncovered much that is troubling and so the investigation is justified?
7) Do you want to know the truth of what happened, or do you not want to know the truth because it might have an impact on Donald Trump's Presidency?
8) Is Trump's criminality important to you? If he has in fact obstructed justice, or conspired in some degree or another with foreign nationals, or sold access to the White House, or laundered money, or committed other crimes either to gain office or to hold office, do you believe he should be held accountable or do you believe the President is above the law or that you don't care about the laws in this case because you want him to remain in office?
9) Do you believe what Trump says over findings by intelligence and investigators?
10) If we assume that Trump is completely innocent, do you believe that his Presidency (the way he conducts himself and the people he surrounds himself with) is a model for the office and a success that is improving the country and the world--this is what the we need more of in future Presidents?
11) Finally, do you think it would be good for the country for him to resign, even if completely innocent, just because his overall effect on the country is too destructive--that he has turned Americans against one another, he has weakened our institutions, he has undermined trust in Presidency, that his policies are too impulsive and motives too opaque--even if you like him and feel he has represented you that he has not representing the whole of the country, the majority of whom feel that he governs for just his base and own self interest? Should we have a President that caters to so few and ignores the rest--and who profits directly while in office from his own decisions? In short, even if you agree with some of his politics, can he still be a bad President who should resign because he can no longer be an effective leader for all?
Thank you.
1)No
2)No
3)No
4)No
5)Yes
6)Yes. No
7)I want to know that truth because it will exonerate Trump and condemn Obama.
8)What criminality?
9)Yes
10)Yes
11)No resignation
Summary: Trump's doing a great job and the Obama's Deep State is engaged in a very dangerous attempt to overthrow the results of the election. It will be very bad for the country if they succeed. The fact that they tried has already done an enormous amount of damage.
Trumpettes are DEFINITELY not Americans!
Here is the origin of the "conspiracy theory" From:doug@presidentclinton.com To: john.podesta@gmail.com CC: terry@tdmca.com, cheryl.mills@gmail.com Date: 2012-01-04 21:45 Subject: Re: I learned from the best The investigation into her getting paid for campaigning, using foundation resources for her wedding and life for a decade, taxes on money from her parents.... I hope that you will speak to her and end this Once we go down this road.... ----- Original Message ----- From: John Podesta [mailto:john.podesta@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 05:00 PM To: Doug Band Cc: terry@tdmca.com ; cheryl.mills@gmail.com Subject: Re: You are perfecting your skills for understatement. On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Doug Band wrote: > I just received a call from a close friend of wjcs who said that cvc told one of the bush 43 kids that she is conducting an internal investigation of money within the foundation from cgi to the foundation > The bush kid then told someone else who then told an operative within the republican party > > I have heard more and more chatter of cvc and bari talking about lots of what is going on internally to people > > Not smart Everyone on the emails is an attorney. Here is an internal review of the Clinton Foundation by a law firm.https://www.scribd.com/document/327595685/Clinton-Foundation-Internal-Governance-Review ... The Foundation has a Conflict-of-Interest Policy applicable to directors, officers, and key employees (the “Board Conflict Policy”), and a separate policy for employees (the “Employee Conflict Policy”). 12 It appears that neither policy has been implemented, and the Board Conflict Policy may need revision to address the issues raised by interviewees. ... In addition, some interviewees reported conflicts of those raising funds or donors, some of whom may have an expectation of quid pro quo benefits in return for gifts. ... Numerous interviewees reported confusion and a lack of transparency between Foundation roles and responsibilities and outside roles and responsibilities of a variety of individuals. .. Washington Post evidence: ... Despite the breathless reporting, it’s hard to tell exactly what is going on in the email exchange, which is dated Jan. 4, 2012. There is no mention of actual Foundation monies being used for the wedding. ... “The Clintons happily and proudly paid for the wedding,” said Angel Urena, a spokesman for the former president. ... At the same time, the foundation, the family and the wedding planner deny the claim made in the email. This was a major social event with 450 guests, something that has to run on clockwork — at great cost. The wedding planner paid the bills and submitted one bill to the Clinton family. ... Keep in mind that the original email said "using foundation resources for her wedding."
Noticer of idiots wrote:
Disco-Rigged-jaminloper wrote:
Simple. Here's your answer Liberals.
Go to 9:41 in the video till 10:06 There's your candidate, the one you supported who stole millions of dollars, yes, she stole it. Funny you guys never mention this;) Yeah, she's sooo honest I can't stand it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-bXCxcM0HADeflection, deflection, deflection, false allegations and unsubstantiated conspiracy rumours.
Putin and George Orwell taught you well.
Yep, we Democrats deflect what our own side does over and over. She was a crook, I can admit that much, but we didn't have any other via candidates to vote for. The left sunk to a new level when she was chosen to be our first choice. She stole money for pay for her daughter's wedding and got away with it. Had I known, I would not have voted for her. Bummer.[/quote]
As usual you're lying.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/01/04/did-the-clinton-foundation-pay-for-chelseas-wedding/?utm_term=.f9d712564cb3[/quote]
Payed for travel expenses to attend Women for Trump Event. If that is why you mean then I agree with you. As usual, your response was murky on purpose.
pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
Disco-Rigged-jaminloper wrote:
Notice how the Trumpettes aren't denying a single allegation against trump.
All they can do is spew false allegations about Hillary and Obama.
Trump is indefensible so they don't try to defend him. But since they're too stupid or stubborn to admit they support a criminal, they'll deflect and deny. George Orwell and Putin taught you well.
Am I the only one who notices how disciplined and consistent the theme of the post are? Very likely paid trolls. Unlike our dear friend DiscoGary whose replies to posts are quite nuanced, suggesting Dear Gary is real.
Here's a hilarious example of paid trolls gone horribly wrong.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/26/diamond-and-silk-congress-hearing-1116887Diamond and Silk made multiple false and dubious statements during their House testimony, which was under oath. One that garnered the most attention: that they had never been paid by the Trump campaign. Both Reps. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX) and Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY) pressed the sisters on their claims that they’d never received payment from the Trump campaign, even though Federal Election Commission filings show they’d been paid $1,274.94 for “field consulting” work.
I think I'm in the wrong business.
Trollminator wrote:
Weekly recap: trumpers get really excited about Trump’s completely fabricated spy comment, George P will be sentenced, new ugly details of Trump Tower meeting emerge, NK shafts Trump, I’m sure I’m missing about a dozen other developments, but not this one: trumpers still think he’s winning and that this is all excellent news for America.
Weekly recap:
Clintonettes still upset over her "she can't lose" loss. Crying like school kids who lost their recess.
They find out that she stole millions of dollars but find it hard to look the other way.
Trollminator, perfect name, still tries to educate himself on the basics of politics but fails miserably.
He guarantees Donald Trump will resign or be removed before the end of his first term. The small brained liberal is starting to realize he's wrong...and he's a follower, not a leader as very few who make such ridiculous statements.
He's missed about a dozen other developments due to being short on brain cells.
Hillary faked them all out but unfortunately got her butt beat badly!
Democrats are still whining and will do so till then end. Sad.
pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
Disco-Rigged-jaminloper wrote:
Yep, we Democrats deflect what our own side does over and over. She was a crook, I can admit that much, but we didn't have any other via candidates to vote for. The left sunk to a new level when she was chosen to be our first choice. She stole money for pay for her daughter's wedding and got away with it. Had I known, I would not have voted for her. Bummer.
Who? It was so long ago it doesn't matter. That's Trump reasoning, so, it's impervious to question or doubt.
Trump is a crude swindler with a rich father. Not much glory in that.
It doesn't matter if it was 2 years ago you dingbat, you voted for her and are pissed that she lost yet you know she was a crook who stole millions, her own side agreed with that. Just how dumb are you?
RIP: D3 All-American Frank Csorba - who ran 13:56 in March - dead
RENATO can you talk about the preparation of Emile Cairess 2:06
Rest in Peace Adrian Lehmann - 2:11 Swiss marathoner. Dies of heart attack.
I think Letesenbet Gidey might be trying to break 14 this Saturday
Running for Bowerman Track Club used to be cool now its embarrassing