Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Trollminator wrote:

Since predictions seem to be a crowd favorite on this thread, lets formalize it and revisit later to see who was right/closest. Please answer a simple Yes or No to each question below, no further qualifications or comments please. Gary, Rigged and other trumpers please provide your Yes/No answers as well, otherwise you can't come back and point fingers.

1. Will the Special Counsel investigation results show that Trump (directly or indirectly through his associates) cooperated with Russia to help him win the election (aka collusion)? No

2. Will the Special Counsel investigation results prove obstruction of justice by Trump (directly or indirectly through his appointees)? No

3. Will the Special Counsel investigation results show that Trump committed an impeachable crime (including perjury)? Yes

4. Will Trump be impeached by the end of his first term? If yes, will he be allowed to finish his term in office? No

5. Will Trump run in 2020? If yes, will he win the primary if contested? Yes and Yes

6. Assuming Trump runs in 2020, will Trump be reelected? No

7. Assuming Trump wins in 2020, will he be impeached during his second term? If yes, will he be allowed to finish his second term? Yes and No

8. If Trump is impeached, will there be a violent crisis?

Flagpole wrote:

plaus this wrote:

Found innocent, not guilty, or not charged? And does it have to be just one of the many things you stated Trump was guilty of all of them?

Man you people seem to care so much what I think. I'm just a guy...a very smart guy with HUGE biceps, but still, just a guy.

For me to be wrong about him, this has to have been a Witch Hunt, meaning that he is found not guilty of any the many things I have brought up. I have already said that some of the "charges" could drop off due to a plea deal, but if he suffers any of the following due to allegations that stick to him, then I was right - impeachment and conviction, resignation, loss of his business, fines due to criminal behavior, prison time.

He will face:

Bank fraud or conspiracy to commit

Wire fraud or conspiracy to commit

Obstruction of justice

Money laundering

Collusion with Russia and/or now perhaps another foreign country in the form of conspiracy or bribery

Perjury if he ever talks to someone officially

Some sort of RICO violation

Some sort of hacking conspiracy and/or privacy violation

Some other things we don't even know about yet

He might escape some of the above. He might be pardoned for some of the above (a pardon means admitting guilt). He might plea bargain away some of the above, but there will be enough serious things left that he will suffer consequences.

IF Trump or his campaign or surrogates is found guilty in any way of colluding with Russia or any other foreign power to help him the election, then I will be right about the 2016 election too.

This is a bad bad guy with no morals who is a proven serial liar and who is about as smart as a bag of hammers. For any of you to put your faith in him that he is going to come out of this smelling like a rose is foolhardy.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

Trollminator wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

Since predictions seem to be a crowd favorite on this thread, lets formalize it and revisit later to see who was right/closest. Please answer a simple Yes or No to each question below, no further qualifications or comments please. Gary, Rigged and other trumpers please provide your Yes/No answers as well, otherwise you can't come back and point fingers.

1. Will the Special Counsel investigation results show that Trump (directly or indirectly through his associates) cooperated with Russia to help him win the election (aka collusion)? No

2. Will the Special Counsel investigation results prove obstruction of justice by Trump (directly or indirectly through his appointees)? No

3. Will the Special Counsel investigation results show that Trump committed an impeachable crime (including perjury)? Yes

4. Will Trump be impeached by the end of his first term? If yes, will he be allowed to finish his term in office? No

5. Will Trump run in 2020? If yes, will he win the primary if contested? Yes and Yes

6. Assuming Trump runs in 2020, will Trump be reelected? No

7. Assuming Trump wins in 2020, will he be impeached during his second term? If yes, will he be allowed to finish his second term? Yes and No

8. If Trump is impeached, will there be a violent crisis?

No

I'll start, see above

Flagpole wrote:

Runningart2004 wrote:

Reagan escaped Iran/Contra....

Clinton escaped Lewinsky-gate....

I don’t see Trump being impeached or indicted...he will lose in 2020 though partially because of Mueller.

Alan

1) Reagan successfully implemented "plausible deniability". Trump won't be able to do that as he has always been known as a micro manager, and the evidence will be too strong that he knew what was going on.

2) Clinton was impeached for perjury. He shouldn't have been having a sexual affair with an intern, and especially not in the Oval Office, but this pales in comparison to what Trump has done...with Trump we have affairs (more to become public), we have evidence of serious criminal behavior, we have a White House that loves to leak which shows even his staff isn't loyal to him, and we have a serial liar as a President, so he will perjure himself when the time comes too.

3) If Trump isn't impeached (and convicted) or indicted or resigns under pressure, then our Constitution is worth crap. He has very openly and brazenly attacked the Rule of Law, attacked the fourth estate, accepted bribes, obstructed justice, and put himself in various blackmail-able situations.

To be clear, if Trump is found innocent and suffers no consequences, I will declare that he is innocent of all of these potential crimes and that I was wrong that he was a criminal. He will still be a horrible human being however...that will never change...he WILL remain a serial liar, an adulterer, a racist, a sexist, a misogynist and a whole bunch of other things, but if the investigation says he is innocent, I will accept that.

No, no, and no wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Man you people seem to care so much what I think. I'm just a guy...a very smart guy with HUGE biceps, but still, just a guy.

For me to be wrong about him, this has to have been a Witch Hunt, meaning that he is found not guilty of any the many things I have brought up. I have already said that some of the "charges" could drop off due to a plea deal, but if he suffers any of the following due to allegations that stick to him, then I was right - impeachment and conviction, resignation, loss of his business, fines due to criminal behavior, prison time.

He will face:

Bank fraud or conspiracy to commit

Wire fraud or conspiracy to commit

Obstruction of justice

Money laundering

Collusion with Russia and/or now perhaps another foreign country in the form of conspiracy or bribery

Perjury if he ever talks to someone officially

Some sort of RICO violation

Some sort of hacking conspiracy and/or privacy violation

Some other things we don't even know about yet

He might escape some of the above. He might be pardoned for some of the above (a pardon means admitting guilt). He might plea bargain away some of the above, but there will be enough serious things left that he will suffer consequences.

IF Trump or his campaign or surrogates is found guilty in any way of colluding with Russia or any other foreign power to help him the election, then I will be right about the 2016 election too.

This is a bad bad guy with no morals who is a proven serial liar and who is about as smart as a bag of hammers. For any of you to put your faith in him that he is going to come out of this smelling like a rose is foolhardy.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

No. You said if TRUMP cheats. You said NOTHING about surrogates. ONLY Trump.

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Man you people seem to care so much what I think. I'm just a guy...a very smart guy with HUGE biceps, but still, just a guy.

For me to be wrong about him, this has to have been a Witch Hunt, meaning that he is found not guilty of any the many things I have brought up. I have already said that some of the "charges" could drop off due to a plea deal, but if he suffers any of the following due to allegations that stick to him, then I was right - impeachment and conviction, resignation, loss of his business, fines due to criminal behavior, prison time.

He will face:

Bank fraud or conspiracy to commit

Wire fraud or conspiracy to commit

Obstruction of justice

Money laundering

Collusion with Russia and/or now perhaps another foreign country in the form of conspiracy or bribery

Perjury if he ever talks to someone officially

Some sort of RICO violation

Some sort of hacking conspiracy and/or privacy violation

Some other things we don't even know about yet

He might escape some of the above. He might be pardoned for some of the above (a pardon means admitting guilt). He might plea bargain away some of the above, but there will be enough serious things left that he will suffer consequences.

IF Trump or his campaign or surrogates is found guilty in any way of colluding with Russia or any other foreign power to help him the election, then I will be right about the 2016 election too.

This is a bad bad guy with no morals who is a proven serial liar and who is about as smart as a bag of hammers. For any of you to put your faith in him that he is going to come out of this smelling like a rose is foolhardy.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

Ummm, Flagpole. What about your prediction that Manafort will be guilty in a few weeks? You must include that one in addition to your other predictions. See, you're already trying to pull a fast one on us.

I have ALL your predictions, so don't start start erasing them one by one.