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STEPHANOPOULOS: Mayor, if the president has done nothing wrong, as you say, again and again, and he tells the truth.
GIULIANI: He hasn’t done anything wrong, George.
STEPHANOPOULOS: I know — and if he tells — and he tells the truth, as you would advise him to do, what is the danger in answering Robert Mueller’s questions?
GIULIANI: Because, they’re trying to trap — you can’t — you couldn’t put a lawyer on this show, who wants to keep his law license, to tell you he should testify.
STEPHANOPOULOS: But it’s only a trap if the president doesn’t tell the truth.
GIULIANI: No, it isn’t. It’s only prosecutable if they have some built up, manipulated evidence to prove the president didn’t tell the truth. How often has that happened?
STEPHANOPOULOS: If you have evidence that proves he doesn’t tell the truth, then the president didn’t tell the truth.
GIULIANI: No. People do things like lie. People lie. Could [James B.] Comey be lying? You’re damn right he could be lying, George. And we’re going to walk ourselves into a trap like that? I couldn’t…
STEPHANOPOULOS: If Mr. Comey lied to the special counsel then he is the one who is vulnerable to perjury. . . . But you believe the president is telling the truth. If you believe that, if you have that conviction, you’re his attorney. Why don’t you say go in, talk to Robert Mueller. Tell the truth.
GIULIANI: Because I wouldn’t be an attorney if I did that, George, I’d be living in some kind of unreal fantasy world that everybody tells the truth. . . . I’m going to walk him into a prosecution for perjury like Martha Stewart did? I mean, she’d tell you…
STEPHANOPOULOS: She didn’t tell the truth.
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STEPHANOPOULOS: What happens if Robert Mueller subpoenas the president? Will you comply?
GIULIANI: Well, we don’t have to. He’s the president of the United States. We can assert the same privilege as other presidents have. President Clinton negotiated a deal in which he didn’t admit the effectiveness of the subpoena. They withdrew it.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Yeah, but he did testify — yeah, but he did testify before the grand jury. Is the president willing to do that?
GIULIANI: But only for two-and-a-half hours, only with an arranged format. Would we be willing to do that? I would rather have the Hillary Clinton treatment. . . .
STEPHANOPOULOS: Are you confident the president will not take the Fifth in this case?
GIULIANI: How can I ever be confident of that? When I’m facing a situation with the president and all the other lawyers are, in which every lawyer in America thinks he would be a fool to testify, I’ve got a client who wants to testify, please, don’t — he said it yesterday.