Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Flagpole wrote:

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I don't give Trump credit though.

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And you never will.

Of course it’s never a bad time to be a corporate executive in terms of earnings and job security, but I’m saying that’s a significant drawback right now if you are received stock options. Trust me, they all think about the value of their options. Btw- It’s not an unrealized gain. It’s nothing but an unvested right to the stocks until it’s vested, at which point you only see a realized gain when you exercise (in the form of comp) but that will be partially offset by a loss if you sell below market to get cash. This loss can be in the hundreds of thousands for some execs. But of course, you shouldn’t be crying if you’re an exec and no one else should be feeling bad for them either.

DiscoGary wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

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I don't give Trump credit though.

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And you never will.

Untrue. I have already even said that if it is proven he has had as hand in peace in North Korea that I will give him credit for it. I will give him credit for anything he has done that is good. So far, nothing, but again, we will see on the North Korea thing. I will never PRAISE him though, because no matter what good political things might happen under his watch, he is not worthy of praise simply because he is too criminal, a threat to our national security and a threat to our very way of life. I just can not support a president who has colluded (conspired) with a foreign enemy country to sway the election in his favor. He HAS done that, and it will be proven. Also, sorry, but Republicans don't have a monopoly on looking down on people who aren't faithful to their spouses. I stopped supporting Bill Clinton once upon a time for such things, stopped supporting then candidates John Edwards and Gary Hart because of their unfaithfulness. Trump has all of them put to shame there with regard to cheating on his wives.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

DiscoGary wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

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I don't give Trump credit though.

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And you never will.

this is it wrote:

DiscoGary wrote:

And you never will.

https://i.imgur.com/g446ZdP.png

Please refer to the standard Russian troll victim / Republican party line and consider your argument refuted by a reference to something something but Bill Clinton and Hillary..

Good evening! How are all you LRC stable geniuses doing this fine PM?

Inside knowledge here. wrote:

this is it wrote:

https://i.imgur.com/g446ZdP.png

Please refer to the standard Russian troll victim / Republican party line and consider your argument refuted by a reference to something something but Bill Clinton and Hillary..

Try putting that same trend on a linear scale vs a semi log scale and then tell me how it looks. Just a hint it makes obama look bad.

If trump took over in 2008 the Dow would be at like 40000 now if you go off how it’s grown in his first year.

And with your corporate tax increases a lot of those people wouldn’t even have jobs. What’s your point?

And lots of companies have given out $1000 bonuses so wages haven’t gone up necessarily but people have gotten more in bonuses. Trickle down works the results so far are proving that.

Reasonable Republican wrote:

L L wrote:

And big corporate tax breaks were also supposed to incentivize corporations to increase wages with their extra cash.

So did everyone here get a 5-10% pay increase?

Corporations are just pulling in more cash and keeping it and employees are going along with and accepting tiny pay increases.

Whether it's low unemployment or corporate tax cuts that should put pressure on increasing wages.

And with your corporate tax increases a lot of those people wouldn’t even have jobs. What’s your point?

And lots of companies have given out $1000 bonuses so wages haven’t gone up necessarily but people have gotten more in bonuses. Trickle down works the results so far are proving that.

You are too stupid to understand the difference between a one-off bonus and a permanent corporate tax cut. . . . And that those bonuses were going to happen either way.

Reasonable Republican wrote:

And lots of companies have given out $1000 bonuses so wages haven’t gone up necessarily but people have gotten more in bonuses. Trickle down works the results so far are proving that.

Um......I don't think so.

Trollminator wrote:

This is actually not a great time to be a corporate executive, from a wealth creation point of view. For example, executives who earn stock options as part of their pay packages are getting them locked in at all time high valuations... which is awful since most likely we will see a market correction soon enough so when they vest they might be exercisable at a significant margin above future prices (you want to exercise stocks at a strike price that is much lower than the market rate, not the other way around).

That's why a lot of companies, like mine, have switched from stock options to restricted stock units. RSU's are just ordinary shares that vest over time. There is no set exercise price. You just get the shares after vesting no matter the price. You don't do quite as well as options if the price went up, but at least you always make money, even if the price went down.

Options are good incentives for startups or super-fast growth companies. RSU's are better for mature companies.

Reasonable Republican wrote:

And lots of companies have given out $1000 bonuses...

Please name five (actual separate companies), please.

Thanks.

Reasonable Republican wrote:

L L wrote:

And big corporate tax breaks were also supposed to incentivize corporations to increase wages with their extra cash.

So did everyone here get a 5-10% pay increase?

Corporations are just pulling in more cash and keeping it and employees are going along with and accepting tiny pay increases.

Whether it's low unemployment or corporate tax cuts that should put pressure on increasing wages.

And with your corporate tax increases a lot of those people wouldn’t even have jobs. What’s your point?

And lots of companies have given out $1000 bonuses so wages haven’t gone up necessarily but people have gotten more in bonuses. Trickle down works the results so far are proving that.

If a few companies give out a few $1000 bonuses, that proves exactly nothing about trickle down.

kduydkyt wrote:

Reasonable Republican wrote:

And lots of companies have given out $1000 bonuses...

Please name five (actual separate companies), please.

Thanks.

+1

And name just one that will give $1000 bonuses every year. The tax cut for the rich is forever after all. The bonuses have to forever to match.

DiscoGary wrote:

The Gallant Pig Man wrote:

Dent is leaving office next month, of course. The few Republicans who have made a show of standing up to Trump all have one thing in common: they have no elections to lose.

Bill Clinton sexually harassed many women, and was credibly accused of rape. He lied under oath and lost his law license.

Democrats gave him a pass and he stayed in office saying "It's just sex."

Democrats have no moral standing to criticize Trump or his supporters on this issue.

Do you reading comprehension?

The initial post was NOT about whether Dems have "moral standing to criticize Trump"--it's one Republican criticizing his GOP fellows for their blatant hypocrisy. Republicans, the (allegedly) "moral, family values" party, should be criticizing Trump on this issue--and they're not.

I'm not sure that the Dems ever had the moral standing to criticize Trump on this--but I know that the Republicans have surrendered theirs.

sjrsrj wrote:

DiscoGary wrote:

Bill Clinton sexually harassed many women, and was credibly accused of rape. He lied under oath and lost his law license.

Democrats gave him a pass and he stayed in office saying "It's just sex."

Democrats have no moral standing to criticize Trump or his supporters on this issue.

Do you reading comprehension?

The initial post was NOT about whether Dems have "moral standing to criticize Trump"--it's one Republican criticizing his GOP fellows for their blatant hypocrisy. Republicans, the (allegedly) "moral, family values" party, should be criticizing Trump on this issue--and they're not.

I'm not sure that the Dems ever had the moral standing to criticize Trump on this--but I know that the Republicans have surrendered theirs.

Maybe he meant that Republicans have no moral standing to criticize other Republicans. They are free of morals.

Message to the rational readers here (sorry Trump supporters this isn't for you); Obama's dignified reign was a wrench jammed in the gear that was going in the wrong direction. The "election" in 2016 pulled that gear out. But it's not all the fault of the Republicans. The Democrats were only playing a slightly different game, pandering to identity politics and letting just a bit more wealth trickle down. The strategy of neither party has worked and today we see America with little credibility abroad. And now they celebrate 3.9% unemployment (not remotely due to Trump by the way), and nobody seems to care about stagnant wages or the fact that that 3.9% actually includes a lot of people, an awful lot of people. The tycoons are doing just fine, and will continue to do so, and most Americans don't pay enough attention to wage and benefit decline, and treacherous foreign policy to know their peril.

Name one wrote:

kduydkyt wrote:

Please name five (actual separate companies), please.

Thanks.

+1

And name just one that will give $1000 bonuses every year. The tax cut for the rich is forever after all. The bonuses have to forever to match.

And that wasn’t already doing this anyway.