Fat hurts wrote:
I'm talking about what would happen if the criminal investigations were shut down.
FWIW... Comey has stated in interviews that there really isn't a scenario where the investigation is shut down.
Fat hurts wrote:
I'm talking about what would happen if the criminal investigations were shut down.
FWIW... Comey has stated in interviews that there really isn't a scenario where the investigation is shut down.
@ttorney wrote:
@ttorney wrote:
They certainly would, but only from about a third of that plaintiff list.
*defendant list I meant
What I'm concerned about is if, for instance, the Mueller investigation is shut down, would the DNC be able to gain access to the work Mueller has done so far?
Fat hurts wrote:
@ttorney wrote:
*defendant list I meant
What I'm concerned about is if, for instance, the Mueller investigation is shut down, would the DNC be able to gain access to the work Mueller has done so far?
Or to put it another way, is material from a closed investigation discoverable in a civil case? I assume it would be, absent other concerns like national security interests?
Flagpole wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:
Right. Democrats never do things for political theater.
I never said that. They don't file this if they don't think they have enough to win.
This is a big deal...not thought of lightly.
Really? You must be kidding. You can't possibly believe that. Absolutely everything we've seen so far shows us that there's nothing there, and that it's all about getting rid of Trump at all costs.
Noticer of dominance wrote:
Flagpole owns your souls.
And you're going to need a new handle, little boy.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/were-the-clinton-campaign-emails-leaked-by-wikileaks-doctored
Clownpole owns nobody except for sycophants such as yourself. Just like the day before Election Day 2016, you were prematurely celebrating a Hillary victory- except this time it will be an epic Flagpolian Flop.
No collusion
No obstruction
A criminal referral for McCabe
Comey under investigation by the DOJ for leaking classified docs
DiscoGary wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
I never said that. They don't file this if they don't think they have enough to win.
This is a big deal...not thought of lightly.
Really? You must be kidding. You can't possibly believe that. Absolutely everything we've seen so far shows us that there's nothing there, and that it's all about getting rid of Trump at all costs.
And despite Trump losing on --obamacare extrusion, --worthless wall, --immigration allowed only from "preferred" countries, --travel ban from non-white countries,, --sanctuary city penalties, etc., your demands, you still support the Orange Clown.
DiscoGary wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
I never said that. They don't file this if they don't think they have enough to win.
This is a big deal...not thought of lightly.
Really? You must be kidding. You can't possibly believe that. Absolutely everything we've seen so far shows us that there's nothing there, and that it's all about getting rid of Trump at all costs.
once in a while I check in to get a jolt of LRC adrenaline. And Gary always takes care of me. Thanks man, for showing how stupid Spanklandia is.
Hey, you might want to check with Michael Cohen to see if yeah 'Absolutely everything we've seen so far shows us that there's nothing there, and that it's all about getting rid of Trump at all costs."
And then check in with Manafort, Flynn, gates, papad, van der swann, employees of the internet research agency, nader, etc.
What a fun day.
Reading through the charges a bit more:
1) Computer Fraud and Abuse Act against Russia, The GRU, GRU Operative #1.
2) RICO against ALL defendants. Says Trump Campaign was the Racketeering Enterprise.
3) RICO Conspiracy against ALL defendants.
4) Violation of Wiretap Act against GRU Operative #1, WikiLeaks, The Trump Campaign, Trump Associates, Assange.
5) Violation of Stored Communications Act against Russia, The GRU, GRU Operative #1.
6) Violation of Digital Millennium Copyright Act against Russia, The GRU, GRU Operative #1.
7) Violation of Misappropriation of Trade Secrets under the Defend Trade Secrets Act against Russia, The GRU, GRU Operative #1, WikiLeaks, Assange.
8) Violation of Washington DC Uniform Trade Secret Act against ALL defendants.
9) Trespass against Russia, The GRU, GRU Operative #1.
10) Trespass to Chattels against Russia, The GRU, GRU Operative #1.
11) Conspiracy to Commit Trespass to Chattels against ALL defendants.
12) Violation of the Virginia Computer Crimes Act against ALL defendants.
Oh man this is bad.
Donny could not go very long without his BFF.
Michael Flynn may be headed to prison for lying to the FBI, but for now he’s enjoying his freedom.
Donald Trump’s former national security adviser appeared onstage to endorse a Republican congressional candidate last month and on Thursday hopped an Amtrak train to Manhattan for what conservative organizers billed as an invitation-only “no holds barred” foreign policy speech.
What's going on here? I thought it was only the evil Democrats who would put felons in a parade.
Help me Conservative Justice Warriors!!! I want to believe!!
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Noticer of dominance wrote:
Flagpole owns your souls.
And you're going to need a new handle, little boy.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/were-the-clinton-campaign-emails-leaked-by-wikileaks-doctoredClownpole owns nobody except for sycophants such as yourself. Just like the day before Election Day 2016, you were prematurely celebrating a Hillary victory- except this time it will be an epic Flagpolian Flop.
No collusion
No obstruction
A criminal referral for McCabe
Comey under investigation by the DOJ for leaking classified docs
Rigged For Hillary, would you like to submit yourself as the FIRST to claim Flagpole was wrong in the event :
i) Mueller never comes
ii) The clown (understood to be the current president of the US, Donald J Trump) is not removed from nor resigns his office
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Noticer of dominance wrote:
Flagpole owns your souls.
And you're going to need a new handle, little boy.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/were-the-clinton-campaign-emails-leaked-by-wikileaks-doctoredClownpole owns nobody except for sycophants such as yourself. Just like the day before Election Day 2016, you were prematurely celebrating a Hillary victory- except this time it will be an epic Flagpolian Flop.
No collusion
No obstruction
A criminal referral for McCabe
Comey under investigation by the DOJ for leaking classified docs
1) Whatever McCabe and Comey did or didn't do has no affect on this suit against Trump et al.
2) Mueller is coming.
3) The clown is done.
agip wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:
Really? You must be kidding. You can't possibly believe that. Absolutely everything we've seen so far shows us that there's nothing there, and that it's all about getting rid of Trump at all costs.
once in a while I check in to get a jolt of LRC adrenaline. And Gary always takes care of me. Thanks man, for showing how stupid Spanklandia is.
Hey, you might want to check with Michael Cohen to see if yeah 'Absolutely everything we've seen so far shows us that there's nothing there, and that it's all about getting rid of Trump at all costs."
And then check in with Manafort, Flynn, gates, papad, van der swann, employees of the internet research agency, nader, etc.
All those guys were caught in perjury traps so that the Democrat faithful would think they've found something. None of us could get escape a perjury trap if the FBI was determined to throw us in jail. They have absolutely nothing on Trump. You know how I know? Because if they did, it would have leaked.
Comey family are hillary lovers!!!!!!
That’s hilarious!!!!!
Nothing better than watching hillary lovers have meltdowns!!!!!!
Racket wrote:
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Clownpole owns nobody except for sycophants such as yourself. Just like the day before Election Day 2016, you were prematurely celebrating a Hillary victory- except this time it will be an epic Flagpolian Flop.
No collusion
No obstruction
A criminal referral for McCabe
Comey under investigation by the DOJ for leaking classified docs
Rigged For Hillary, would you like to submit yourself as the FIRST to claim Flagpole was wrong in the event :
i) Mueller never comes
ii) The clown (understood to be the current president of the US, Donald J Trump) is not removed from nor resigns his office
Racket,
You are doing your job well!
DiscoGary wrote:
agip wrote:
once in a while I check in to get a jolt of LRC adrenaline. And Gary always takes care of me. Thanks man, for showing how stupid Spanklandia is.
Hey, you might want to check with Michael Cohen to see if yeah 'Absolutely everything we've seen so far shows us that there's nothing there, and that it's all about getting rid of Trump at all costs."
And then check in with Manafort, Flynn, gates, papad, van der swann, employees of the internet research agency, nader, etc.
All those guys were caught in perjury traps so that the Democrat faithful would think they've found something. None of us could get escape a perjury trap if the FBI was determined to throw us in jail. They have absolutely nothing on Trump. You know how I know? Because if they did, it would have leaked.
This is crazy thinking. Mueller and his team has shown that they are VERY good at NOT leaking. With every indictment so far, there was no indication it was going to come down when it did.
Your hope is unfounded.
So, you are peddling that everyone around Trump is crooked including his personal lawyer, er, "fixer", but Trump is somehow above the fray? What do you think the likelihood of that is?
My ears are ringing because the Fat Lady is singing...it's going to be a long song yet, but she is singing. Good grief that was a high note!
DiscoGary wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
I never said that. They don't file this if they don't think they have enough to win.
This is a big deal...not thought of lightly.
Really? You must be kidding. You can't possibly believe that. Absolutely everything we've seen so far shows us that there's nothing there, and that it's all about getting rid of Trump at all costs.
One thing about the new lawsuit from the DNC is that it shows just how much "there" is "there". It's a compendium of evidence we know publicly about meddling in the election and the Trump campaign's collusion with Russia.
If you really think there's nothing there, I suggest you read the document and try to refute the allegations therein.
If you are honest with yourself, you will see that there is such a mountain of evidence that it can not be explained by "Deep State" conspiracy theories.
Fat hurts wrote:
If you are honest with yourself, you will see that there is such a mountain of evidence that it can not be explained by "Deep State" conspiracy theories.
Pretty sure if you accept Deep State as a valid premise then you can dismiss any argument. Don't get your hopes up.
Fat hurts wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
What I'm concerned about is if, for instance, the Mueller investigation is shut down, would the DNC be able to gain access to the work Mueller has done so far?
Or to put it another way, is material from a closed investigation discoverable in a civil case? I assume it would be, absent other concerns like national security interests?
The simple answer is yes but the practical answer in a case like this is it depends. My best guess would be likely not in a case this big and complicated. Defendant consent to the "cloned discovery" may come into play as certainly the judge's read on it will be a big determinant. Given the broad scope and time already spent by Mueller's team, my guess is the sheer volume of the discovery in Mueller's investigation will pose a problem to both sides, in terms of figuring out what might be relevant and confidential. There are advantages and disadvantages to both parties, so the legal teams would analyze the cost benefit.
+1
The Mueller office is a pretty tight ship.
But keep in mind that Spankers like Gary are always limiting themselves to 'collusion,' while the smart set is looking for financial crimes, mostly tax evasion. That's why the Cohen raid is more dangerous to Spanky than Mueller. Everyone knows cheeto jesus has committed multiples financial crimes - the only talk even among his supporters is whether Cohen will cooperate with the investigators. not that Cohen doesn't have the dirt.
And that doesn't even start with obstruction, which will probably be the first report and recommendation Mueller hands to rosenstein, because it is so bloody simple. Trump has admitted/bragged about obstruction from early days.
Racket wrote:
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Clownpole owns nobody except for sycophants such as yourself. Just like the day before Election Day 2016, you were prematurely celebrating a Hillary victory- except this time it will be an epic Flagpolian Flop.
No collusion
No obstruction
A criminal referral for McCabe
Comey under investigation by the DOJ for leaking classified docs
Rigged For Hillary, would you like to submit yourself as the FIRST to claim Flagpole was wrong in the event :
i) Mueller never comes
ii) The clown (understood to be the current president of the US, Donald J Trump) is not removed from nor resigns his office
Yes. Do it. And when this comes to pass, Flagpole's new handle becomes either Clownpole or Wrongpole.
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