Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

foo wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

I disagree. When it comes to the budget, there really are two parties with a distinct difference:

Democrats: "tax and spend"

Republicans: "borrow and spend"

The Foo Party: “tax and cut spending “. I’m the only member of the party.

I'll join.

OLD SMTC SOB wrote:

Count Chocula wrote:

I would join that party. The problem is, as soon as the government turns a *gasp!* surplus, people would complain that their taxes should be lowered or that the government should spend the surplus. So I really don't think there is a way to reduce the debt.

There are plenty of taxes, to fund what the government is required to do. The problem is in the spending. The government is morbidly obese and needs radical surgery.....or at least the band.

I certainly think that government spending should be reviewed, and in all likelihood reduced. Just because a government program exists is not justification for its continued existence. However, cutting spending will have an effect on people, and I believe that once a surplus is achieved, those people will argue in favor of restoring spending. I think both Democrats and Republicans are guilty of "passing the buck" to future generations with respect to the national debt.

Count Chocula wrote:

I would join that party. The problem is, as soon as the government turns a *gasp!* surplus, people would complain that their taxes should be lowered or that the government should spend the surplus. So I really don't think there is a way to reduce the debt.

Well we know there's no chance of a surplus anytime soon.

But what you wrote is exactly what happened in 2001 when Bush II came into office.

They feared a surplus would be bad and lowered taxes. Actually, they wrote checks directly to Americans and then lowered taxes.

Then got into two expensive wars and raised the military budget.

Here is Alan Greenspan in 2001 when we had a surplus:

"While the magnitudes of future federal unified budget surpluses are uncertain, they are highly likely to remain sizable for some time."

Thank you Trump for another awful day at the markets

Trollminator wrote:

Thank you Trump for another awful day at the markets

It wouldn't surprise if it rallies and ends the day in the positive. Anything is possible in this market it seems.

Count Chocula wrote:

I certainly think that government spending should be reviewed, and in all likelihood reduced. Just because a government program exists is not justification for its continued existence. However, cutting spending will have an effect on people, and I believe that once a surplus is achieved, those people will argue in favor of restoring spending. I think both Democrats and Republicans are guilty of "passing the buck" to future generations with respect to the national debt.

"once a surplus is achieved"? How?

The last time we had a budge surplus was during the Clinton administration. Things were going so well that there was talk of wiping out the entire national debt.

Instead, W was elected. First he decided to pass several massive tax cuts for the wealthy. Then he decided to spend a few trillion on foolish wars.

At the beginning of the Obama administration, we spent trillions more to battle the recession. Things got better, but we'll never know for sure if it was the right move. What we do know for sure is that it put us in a deeper hole.

Now with another massive tax cut for the wealthy, a trade war, and higher interest rates, the budget deficit is set to grow larger still .

I don't know how we could ever turn back the clock and get to another surplus. It looks like we're too far gone.

Racket wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

Thank you Trump for another awful day at the markets

It wouldn't surprise if it rallies and ends the day in the positive. Anything is possible in this market it seems.

What is likely is that our low IQ twitter president continues to create negative sentiment.

I am pleasantly surprised today to not see any of you Trumpers declaring victory on the news that Mueller has told Trump's lawyers that he is not a target of the investigation right now. So, good show there Trumpers.

In that same Washington Post story, it has been confirmed now that Trump IS though a subject of Mueller's criminal investigation.

So...

Target]/b] is the worst thing to be. Means charges are likely due to information already received.

Subject is next worst. Means reason to believe you might have done something criminal and that you are under criminal investigation.

Not sure why Mueller would let the Trump team know where he is right now. Perhaps trying to make him feel comfortable giving an interview.

This is actually not good news for Trump. At one point he was not personally under investigation. Now, it has been confirmed that he is.

Completely agree; I was talking about a hypothetical situation where a combination of increased taxes and reduced spending resulted in a surplus. But in reality I think the best we can do is balance the budget each year and hope that eventually, with inflation, 20 trillion won't be that significant.

I am pleasantly surprised today to not see any of you Trumpers declaring victory on the news that Mueller has told Trump's lawyers that he is not a target of the investigation right now. So, good show there Trumpers.

In that same Washington Post story, it has been confirmed now that Trump IS though a subject of Mueller's criminal investigation.

So...

Target is the worst thing to be. Means charges are likely due to information already received.

Subject is next worst. Means reason to believe you might have done something criminal and that you are under criminal investigation.

Not sure why Mueller would let the Trump team know where he is right now. Perhaps trying to make him feel comfortable giving an interview.

This is actually not good news for Trump. At one point he was not personally under investigation. Now, it has been confirmed that he is.

I'm seeing a pattern with Mueller. Clearly he's been subtly getting closer to the prey, dropping announcements here and there in language that the Orange One couldn't possibly comprehend. Trump is probably confused and lacks the attention to listen to one of his advisers explain in simple terms for 30 seconds. I can picture Gary Cohn starting to explain to Trump why trade war = bad and Trump blowing him off in 20 seconds. Make no mistake, that is probably what led to his decision to step down.

Trollminator wrote:

Racket wrote:

It wouldn't surprise if it rallies and ends the day in the positive. Anything is possible in this market it seems.

What is likely is that our low IQ twitter president continues to create negative sentiment.

Ha! Yeah, sure thing brainiac.

Why didn't you run? Oh, that's right, a lower Intelligent Quotient than him.

Stay on the sidelines, sit and listen. Trust me, you might not look smarter, but it's still a better place for you.

Count Chocula wrote:

But in reality I think the best we can do is balance the budget each year and hope that eventually, with inflation, 20 trillion won't be that significant.

That's still not in reality.

We will see a $40 trillion debt for sure.

And maybe inflation will make that not look like much.

But middle class income would have to pick up as well.

Flagpole wrote:

I am pleasantly surprised today to not see any of you Trumpers declaring victory on the news that Mueller has told Trump's lawyers that he is not a target of the investigation right now. So, good show there Trumpers.

...

There's nothing to celebrate because the political persecution of our elected President and his administration hasn't stopped.

Hardloper wrote:

Haven't checked in on this thread in a few weeks...

Liar. You have a YUGE number of posts on this thread. Over one thousand, and from your work.

Well you managed to get the post that identified the city jamin lives in and who he works for. It is nice you protected your best pal. But Jamin has made no secret of his real name, where he lives, and what he does for work. He is easy to look up.

DiscoGary wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

I am pleasantly surprised today to not see any of you Trumpers declaring victory on the news that Mueller has told Trump's lawyers that he is not a target of the investigation right now. So, good show there Trumpers.

...

There's nothing to celebrate because the political persecution of our elected President and his administration hasn't stopped.

There is political prosecution with every new administration, yet you are shedding tears for the one with a shady past and present and who actually invited it.

L L wrote:

Count Chocula wrote:

But in reality I think the best we can do is balance the budget each year and hope that eventually, with inflation, 20 trillion won't be that significant.

That's still not in reality.

We will see a $40 trillion debt for sure.

And maybe inflation will make that not look like much.

But middle class income would have to pick up as well.

We need to stop that middle class talk. It is all but dead already, and neither side has resolved their problem. We are a capitalist nation with the ultra wealthy and businesses in every industry having severely cut into government's power only to further their own interests. Forget about the middle class.

DiscoGary wrote:

There's nothing to celebrate because the political persecution of our elected President and his administration hasn't stopped.

You celebrated the entire time Bill and Hillary Clinton were under investigation. Hypocrite.

celebrate wrote:

DiscoGary wrote:

There's nothing to celebrate because the political persecution of our elected President and his administration hasn't stopped.

You celebrated the entire time Bill and Hillary Clinton were under investigation. Hypocrite.

There was a crime to investigate with the Clintons. There's no crime here and never was.