Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Racket wrote:

aherhare wrote:

Interesting sequence--given that the end of the Vietnam War (for us) was 1975, nearly a year after Watergate ended with Nixon's resignation.

Well the war at that point was pretty unpopular so I can sort of see where DiscoGary is coming from (skewed timeline notwithstanding; also, this statement is not an endorsement of DiscoGary). But seriously, what was the tone? Was it clear Nixon was a crook and everyone knew it or was Congress and 35% of America desperately trying to defend him? Yam Sandwich indicated people were more fact based back then; he was around and I wasn't but I'm not sure I buy that yet.

Everyone knew Nixon was a crook. And yes, people were in general far more reality-based then as compared to today. I have not seen anything like today's GOP, (where having integrity is enough to get you kicked out), in my lifetime.

These times are truly different. But I do think that there is hope. These populist eras have come and gone in the past. Trump will soon enough be nothing more than a disturbing reminder of how easily so many are duped. And the GOP - it may recover a footing based in reality. Or it may be replaced. Either way, better times are most likely just around the corner.

Flagpoller wrote:

Echo chamber polling is not good polling.

Post of the year.

Seriously man, after all the crap Trump has made up you believe this story.

Made up? Fake? Why, whatever would make you say such a thing about Trump?https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/a-time-magazine-with-trump-on-the-cover-hangs-in-his-golf-clubs-its-fake/2017/06/27/0adf96de-5850-11e7-ba90-f5875b7d1876_story.html?utm_term=.1e755b090a8c

Yes there were Republicans with character that put country above party. Howard Baker, Hogan and Butler to name a few.

Don't forget the time Trump faced down a fierce bird.....

https://imgur.com/5jaetm5

The hits keep coming. Not a good news day for Kushner. Something tells me he might be the next one indicted.

“H.R. McMaster, President Trump’s national security adviser, learned that Kushner had contacts with foreign officials that he did not coordinate through the National Security Council or officially report”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/kushners-overseas-contacts-raise-concerns-as-foreign-officials-seek-leverage/2018/02/27/16bbc052-18c3-11e8-942d-16a950029788_story.html

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No way Trump makes up sh!t about himself!http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3588907/Audio-1991-surfaces-Donald-Trump-pretending-publicist-bragging-women-success-candidate-INSISTS-isn-t-slams-Today-bringing-up.html

Fake? What do you mean, Fake? wrote:

Made up? Fake? Why, whatever would make you say such a thing about Trump?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/a-time-magazine-with-trump-on-the-cover-hangs-in-his-golf-clubs-its-fake/2017/06/27/0adf96de-5850-11e7-ba90-f5875b7d1876_story.html?utm_term=.1e755b090a8c

Conundrum wrote:

Seriously man, after all the crap Trump has made up you believe this story.

L L wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Donald Trump is going down,

100% chance?

Well, short of outrageous things, yes. For example, if aliens come down here and make us all accept Trump as our world leader...if Russians somehow intervene again in a way that I can't imagine, etc.

But, assuming the course of this investigation is allowed to be completed uninhibited, then yes, there is no chance he will get by with no consequences.

Benjamin Dare wrote:

Everyone knew Nixon was a crook. And yes, people were in general far more reality-based then as compared to today. I have not seen anything like today's GOP, (where having integrity is enough to get you kicked out), in my lifetime.

These times are truly different. But I do think that there is hope. These populist eras have come and gone in the past. Trump will soon enough be nothing more than a disturbing reminder of how easily so many are duped. And the GOP - it may recover a footing based in reality. Or it may be replaced. Either way, better times are most likely just around the corner.

This is a good assessment. Populism typically doesn't last more than 2 election cycles, and often less. When THIS populist leader is a criminal, it is LIKELY to last less than 2 cycles.

I want to believe you are right--but I don't think the U.S. will every quite recover from this era. My gut wants me to believe I am wrong but my intellect tells me this kleptocracy is more or less here to stay.

Damn. Trump's sh*tty day just got worse. The hits keep coming...

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/27/politics/trump-russia-investigation/index.html

I understand your pessimism, but I do believe justice will prevail this time. Will it be a temporary reprieve or a historical 'save' for democracy will depend on how we move forward. The status quo won't work, from either side of the isle. We're at a tipping point.

From all that I've been following, this is much bigger than Trump and we (and our allies) are breaking up a world wide criminal enterprise. Some have described it as the largest criminal enterprise in history and I don't think it's hyperbole.

Mueller time has arrived.

nontrumper wrote:

George Hirsch wrote:

I want to believe you are right--but I don't think the U.S. will every quite recover from this era. My gut wants me to believe I am wrong but my intellect tells me this kleptocracy is more or less here to stay.

I understand your pessimism, but I do believe justice will prevail this time. Will it be a temporary reprieve or a historical 'save' for democracy will depend on how we move forward. The status quo won't work, from either side of the isle. We're at a tipping point.

From all that I've been following, this is much bigger than Trump and we (and our allies) are breaking up a world wide criminal enterprise. Some have described it as the largest criminal enterprise in history and I don't think it's hyperbole.

Mueller time has arrived.

My experience tells me that in the political realm the pendulum always swing back in the opposite direction. Sometimes too far in the opposite direction. Nixon lead t o Carter, Obama to Trump. People often vote in a way to undue past mistakes.

Remeber those long ago days when republicans were oh so concerned about Hillary's emails and national security?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/kushners-overseas-contacts-raise-concerns-as-foreign-officials-seek-leverage/2018/02/27/16bbc052-18c3-11e8-942d-16a950029788_story.html?utm_term=.2d488f7e2a0f

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/security-clearances-downgraded-for-kushner-and-other-white-house-officials/2018/02/27/106d763c-1c01-11e8-9de1-147dd2df3829_story.html?utm_term=.1480cfeb6f5e

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/four-commerce-department-appointees-lose-their-posts-after-problems-in-background-checks/2018/02/27/f96b2666-1bdb-11e8-9de1-147dd2df3829_story.html?utm_term=.a4b603fc231d

Good evening! How are all you LRC stable geniuses doing this fine PM?

DiscoGary wrote:

How far we have come since then! Now the president can use the IRS to shut down the opposition and the media collude to hide it.

Except that the president had nothing to do with that and you know it. Lyin' Gary lies some more.

AmNotALib wrote:

Yam Sandwich wrote:

Back then the Republican Party was mostly sane. The big, negative driver back then was barely disguised racism. If you don't know what the Southern Strategy was it is something that would be worth your while to learn.

It's also worthwhile to learn that Southern Strategy didn't work because the south was captured by an openly racist Democrat.

Hi Gary