Is it because of runners world magazine? Why don't they realize that running more miles will get them faster than the track.. or losing some lbs will get them faster than the track
I see the stupidest training stuff on fb updates one by a certified "coach"
What about speedwork at 40mpw and not overweight?
If a hobbyjogger type i would say do 60mpw
Agree. I know a girl who is "training" for a 10k on like 20 mpw and one day is intervals..
I'm past my racing days and just trying to keep from getting too far out of shape. For general fitness, I just find it to be more enjoyable to go out and do a half-dozen quarters than to do an easy run.
Some people either like speed more or train specifically for sprinting.
I am referencing people training for local 5k 10ks etc... not HSers or sprinters
I ran 3:55 for 1500m and 8:40 for 3km off of 30kms per week - most of it speed work. Never ran more than 40k a week in my life.
I get your point that to be faster they need to lose weight, BUT cranking up the intensity is a great way to lose weight. sooo..... I think Id rather see them do some reps than just slog.
I'm mid 50s and easily 30 pounds above my college racing weight. But if I'm running the local 5k you're saying that running some 800s at just below goal race pace will do me no good?
areTHEYdumb wrote:
I am referencing people training for local 5k 10ks etc... not HSers or sprinters
You're not thinking this through. Not everyone has the capacity to run lots of miles without injury. Also, many people have limited time to run so they can't get in tons of volume.
Look at it this way: if you could only run 30 miles per week, how would you allocate those miles?
I ran 15:12 my first year of running off of 40 miles per week or so with tempo runs and track sessions.
Smoove wrote:
You're not thinking this through. Not everyone has the capacity to run lots of miles without injury. Also, many people have limited time to run so they can't get in tons of volume.
Look at it this way: if you could only run 30 miles per week, how would you allocate those miles?
I ran 15:12 my first year of running off of 40 miles per week or so with tempo runs and track sessions.
This is a good point. Speedwork doesn't take as much time, because... it's faster.
Op, you are right, but just running distance gets boring. Maybe instead of a track workout, those fatties would take the day off..
Based on the tenets of physiology, it is remarkable that people don't do MORE speed and interval work.
Right, Smoove. OP, you need to assume that the opportunity cost for the hard workout day was just another easy 4-6 mile run rather than working on building base mileage. Not everyone can run more mileage. Or maybe they are in fact building (even to 30 mpw) and then sharpening before continuing to build. It's nice to break up all that slow easy mileage. Probably healthy too We all know runners that ran fast times on low mileage. They probably did 'too much' speed work.
Smoove wrote:
You're not thinking this through. Not everyone has the capacity to run lots of miles without injury. Also, many people have limited time to run so they can't get in tons of volume.
Look at it this way: if you could only run 30 miles per week, how would you allocate those miles?
I ran 15:12 my first year of running off of 40 miles per week or so with tempo runs and track sessions.
Smoove wrote:
You're not thinking this through. Not everyone has the capacity to run lots of miles without injury. Also, many people have limited time to run so they can't get in tons of volume.
Look at it this way: if you could only run 30 miles per week, how would you allocate those miles?
I ran 15:12 my first year of running off of 40 miles per week or so with tempo runs and track sessions.
But smoove when u ran 15:12 on 40mpw u were fit and light and lean. You can't tell me for the avg jogger person going for a ten mile run is less beneficial than doing speedwork on a track at that mileage and takes less time counting driving to a track etc
Interesting question though. If you could only run 30mpw what would you do for road racing?
I would do three 10 mile progression runs a week.
Think you could run decent 5k to half w that
areTHEYstupid wrote:
Smoove wrote:You're not thinking this through. Not everyone has the capacity to run lots of miles without injury. Also, many people have limited time to run so they can't get in tons of volume.
Look at it this way: if you could only run 30 miles per week, how would you allocate those miles?
I ran 15:12 my first year of running off of 40 miles per week or so with tempo runs and track sessions.
But smoove when u ran 15:12 on 40mpw u were fit and light and lean. You can't tell me for the avg jogger person going for a ten mile run is less beneficial than doing speedwork on a track at that mileage and takes less time counting driving to a track etc
You assume all these hobby joggers can run 10 miles a day everyday without getting overuse injuries. It happens.
Alan
Not what I said at all. I said if they were running 30mpw a ten miler instead of a track session would help them more. That it's probably one time per week.
Why do people do 50+ miles a week when they can't break 18:00 in a 5k? Because of Runners world garbage?