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And no Utah high school girls are anywhere close to 16:36 for 5K, period.

Quality Qontrol wrote:

Name one.

Utah= fastville wrote:

Ummm Utah has plenty of people who are faster than her, even if she's not allowed to race against the high school girl portion of those people. Utah has elite training groups and fast community races. No need to fly out to Washington.

Easy does it........ wrote:

DaddyIssues wrote:

No. Daddy is really backwards.

Somebody is jealous!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jealous!??

.......Yeah, I was just wishing I could make my 30-something Male body into a prepubescent teenage girl.

Is that you Mr Ping?

Quality Qontrol wrote:

And no Utah high school girls are anywhere close to 16:36 for 5K, period.

Quality Qontrol wrote:

Name one.

Sydney Thowaldson, 8th grade WY, 13:14 4k on middle school training only. This = 16:33 for 5k. No tinman training, not geared out to the hilt, no elite races, no hype, no year around running. probably has never run 30 miles in a week, ever. Normal kid, normal parents, no pressure. doesn't realize how talented she is. Grace Ping will know soon enough though

little known fact... wrote:

Tracktownpizza wrote:

Utah lets them run, just not with HS teams. Because they aren't in HS.

EXACTLY!!!!!!! That is why she has to run against COLLEGE and PRO women. Utah is really backwards.

Those mormons. Young women's utes might fall out.

Quality Qontrol wrote:

And no Utah high school girls are anywhere close to 16:36 for 5K, period.

Quality Qontrol wrote:

Name one.

Utah High school girls may not run 16:36 5ks, but that is irrelevant given the large group of other people who run 16:36 5ks:

Women who run 16:36 5ks in Utah:

*Utah State Collegiate

*BYU Collegiate

*Weber state Collegiate

*NOP at Altitude Camp

*Rina Williams-Chesser

Men who run 16:36 5ks in Utah:

*Like every high school team

*Every college team

*Jared Ward and his training partners at Saucony

*NOP

*STG Elite

DaddyIssues wrote:

Easy does it........ wrote:

Somebody is jealous!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jealous!??

.......Yeah, I was just wishing I could make my 30-something Male body into a prepubescent teenage girl.

Is that you Mr Ping?

^ wannbe Kaitlyn Jenner OUTED!

No training vs Tinman trained wrote:

Sydney Thowaldson, 8th grade WY, 13:14 4k on middle school training only. This = 16:33 for 5k. No tinman training, not geared out to the hilt, no elite races, no hype, no year around running. probably has never run 30 miles in a week, ever. Normal kid, normal parents, no pressure. doesn't realize how talented she is. Grace Ping will know soon enough though

LOL ... she is from Wyoming, not Utah.

What, are you Daddy Thowaldson? That explains your extreme jealously.

Didn't we go through that "xc course distance accuracy" subject before?

That is a pathetic listing, maybe you can list racehorses, motorbikes and cars that are faster as well? Especially absurd as all of the colleges listed will be flying to Seattle to get qualifying times this winter. Ping's road 5K is less than a second slower than BYU's best woman track outdoor 5000 last year, and faster than all of the Weber Sate and Utah State women. She deserves to run wherever she feels like and can afford.

Utah=fastville wrote:

Quality Qontrol wrote:

And no Utah high school girls are anywhere close to 16:36 for 5K, period.

Utah High school girls may not run 16:36 5ks, but that is irrelevant given the large group of other people who run 16:36 5ks:

Women who run 16:36 5ks in Utah:

*Utah State Collegiate

*BYU Collegiate

*Weber state Collegiate

*NOP at Altitude Camp

*Rina Williams-Chesser

Men who run 16:36 5ks in Utah:

*Like every high school team

*Every college team

*Jared Ward and his training partners at Saucony

*NOP

*STG Elite

Easy does it........ wrote:

Didn't we go through that "xc course distance accuracy" subject before?

Yes, and the same fool keeps whining about that Grace being is so much faster than his daughter/grand-daughter.

Any parent, no matter how fast their MS kid is, is a nutjob if they enter her in a race like this. Stop living through your kid.

I think he's a 3:34 guy and I believe O'Lionaird also ran 3:34 years back when he had been a 10k guy and suddenly became a 1500m runner, but he's been unhealthy for years. Then Jenkins ran 3:49 to win the 5th Ave. Mile, so this looks like a good race. If Jenkins is running the 1k and mile, Salazar is surely prepping him for a fast 3k later on.

Dick Microscopic wrote:

"M 1 Mile

1 Philibert-Phiboutot, Charles Unattached"

That's quite a name, although I hear his kick is absolutely ferocious.

That Ultra Guy wrote:

Any parent, no matter how fast their MS kid is, is a nutjob if they enter her in a race like this. Stop living through your kid.

It is your fault your kids failed to meet your running expectations. No need to be so jealous of young runners who much faster than your kids.

How does anybody know that it isn't Grace that is picking the races she wants to run?

I remember when I was 10 and found a tournament in a city 80 miles away that my Bantam team could bowl in. I just had to convince my parents to take me. When I was 14, I found a 10k 50 miles away that I wanted to run because I was going to run xc in the fall. Neither of my parents ever ran. They took me to the race, dropped me off, went to a cousin's graduation, and came back and got me about 8 hours later. I just read the story about the 13 year old girl who held the world record for the marathon. Age is not a reason she shouldn't be running.

MakesCents wrote:

....Grace Ping can't beat HS girls yet, but is going against collegiate and pro runners. !??

What planet are you from?

Here is video from a little race called Nike Cross Nationals.

Ping finished in 6th place, ahead of 194 very good high school runners.

Why are you so obsessed and jealous of a 13 year old girl? You need to get some help

There are like 100 names in the original post. Anybody care to discuss ANY of the other 99? I made an attempt earlier, but nobody responded.

The Grace Ping debate apparently merits a thread of its own judging by the heat in this thread. Although it seems it could be summed up with:

- some people think an 8th grader training hard and flying to meets is child abuse and she should race locally for that reason, while training less seriously

- some people think an 8th grader flying to meets is pretentious and she should race locally for that reason

- some people think we should leave her alone and not be her self declared internet parents

- some people think she is a prodigious talent and potential future hope for American distance running

- some people think she will hit puberty and become just another face in the crowd, or become injured

There, no more need for a thread or discussion of her, because you're all just going to say one of those points repeatedly in a semi incoherent and rambling fashion.

Now, does anybody have any thoughts on Conley running the 3k after her recent bout of marathon training?

Ciaran?

Sdfsdfzxfzxc wrote:

Scufff wrote:

The W3000 looks interesting to say the least.

Interesting? Maybe the race for second will be interesting, but it seems clear who is winning that one, unless she is way out of shape.

Will he interesting to see how conley adapts back to the track after marathon training. She hasn't had much rest in a few years, other than when she has had an injury. I'm not sure if that is a strategy to run fast or to keep money coming in.

Conley is pacing for her teammates. There was an article about this race on flotrack.