• LetsRun.com
      your benevolent dictator
      • NCAA indoor 5000 leader Marc Scott of Tulsa (13:38) just ran a 29:33 10k road race in Europe 12/28/2016 7:02AM
      • LetsRun.com
        your benevolent dictator
      • Ribble Valley 10K, December 27

        Marc Scott, who earlier in the month ran a fast 13:38.87 5000m indoors in the USA, continued his winning ways back in the UK with a 29:33 victory which gave him a 26-second win over both Chris Farrell and Richard Allen.

        http://www.athleticsweekly.com...Svva8EC.99
    • Tulsacompguy
      • RE: NCAA indoor 5000 leader Marc Scott of Tulsa (13:38) just ran a 29:33 10k road race in Europe 12/28/2016 7:21AM - in reply to LetsRun.com
      • Tulsacompguy
      • Potential ncaa violation. Cant run attached and then unattached during the same calendar segment. Hes no competed against outside comp not representing tulsa. Oops.
    • 4:04 FNF
      • RE: NCAA indoor 5000 leader Marc Scott of Tulsa (13:38) just ran a 29:33 10k road race in Europe 12/28/2016 7:29AM - in reply to Tulsacompguy
      • 4:04 FNF
      • Tulsacompguy wrote:
        Potential ncaa violation. Cant run attached and then unattached during the same calendar segment. Hes no competed against outside comp not representing tulsa. Oops.
        Can you try that again- but in English?
    • rojo
      co-founder
      • RE: NCAA indoor 5000 leader Marc Scott of Tulsa (13:38) just ran a 29:33 10k road race in Europe 12/28/2016 7:57AM - in reply to 4:04 FNF
      • rojo
        co-founder
      • The poster is saying that Scott participating in a road race unattached after first competing for Tulsa is a potential NCAA violation. He or she is saying you can't first compete for a school and then compete unattached in the same season.

        I don't think Scott has anything to worry about. It's not like he's going to try to redshirt this year.
    • Benjamins Button
      • RE: NCAA indoor 5000 leader Marc Scott of Tulsa (13:38) just ran a 29:33 10k road race in Europe 12/28/2016 8:19AM - in reply to Tulsacompguy
      • Benjamins Button
      • So everyone that does Turkey Trot's are in violation?
    • dragnet25
      • RE: NCAA indoor 5000 leader Marc Scott of Tulsa (13:38) just ran a 29:33 10k road race in Europe 12/28/2016 1:07PM - in reply to Benjamins Button
      • dragnet25
      • Turkey trots are fine as long as they aren't in the middle of xc season. So are any other road races unless you've already triggered a season of competition before the race.

        Basically as soon as you put that school jersey on and compete for the the school you have to finish that season (XC, Indoor, or Outdoor) before you can compete unattached again.
    • different sport....
      • RE: NCAA indoor 5000 leader Marc Scott of Tulsa (13:38) just ran a 29:33 10k road race in Europe 12/28/2016 1:23PM - in reply to dragnet25
      • different sport....
      • Road racing should be considered a different sport. Trail running also. Mountain Biking too. Poker is on the sports channels all the time. Would he be in violation if he got in a poker game over the holidays?
    • jjjjjjj
      • RE: NCAA indoor 5000 leader Marc Scott of Tulsa (13:38) just ran a 29:33 10k road race in Europe 12/28/2016 8:11PM - in reply to dragnet25
      • jjjjjjj
      • give me a break. if true, this is just a further indictment of the NCAA. and they're not employees, yet they essentially have a non-compete provision???
    • jjjjjjj
      • RE: NCAA indoor 5000 leader Marc Scott of Tulsa (13:38) just ran a 29:33 10k road race in Europe 12/28/2016 8:12PM - in reply to dragnet25
      • jjjjjjj
      • another way of putting that is a no-outside employment provision--part of my university contract as a bona fide employee.
    • Xanax
      • RE: NCAA indoor 5000 leader Marc Scott of Tulsa (13:38) just ran a 29:33 10k road race in Europe 12/29/2016 9:42AM - in reply to rojo
      • Xanax
      • rojo wrote:
        The poster is saying that Scott participating in a road race unattached after first competing for Tulsa is a potential NCAA violation. He or she is saying you can't first compete for a school and then compete unattached in the same season.

        I don't think Scott has anything to worry about. It's not like he's going to try to redshirt this year.
        I think he will be fine, from everything I can find online (someone let me know if they have a more current or accurate source).

        "It is permissible for a student-athlete to participate in outside competition as an individual during the academic year in the student-athlete’s sport, as long as the student-athlete represents only himself or herself in the competition and does not engage in such competition as a member of or receive expenses from an outside team."

        http://www.northernsun.org/cus...tudent.pdf
    • greengrocer's apostrophe
      • RE: NCAA indoor 5000 leader Marc Scott of Tulsa (13:38) just ran a 29:33 10k road race in Europe 12/29/2016 9:45AM - in reply to Benjamins Button
      • greengrocer's apostrophe
      • Benjamins Button wrote:
        So everyone that does Turkey Trot's are in violation?
        Trots.
    • sbeefyk1
      registered
      • RE: NCAA indoor 5000 leader Marc Scott of Tulsa (13:38) just ran a 29:33 10k road race in Europe 12/29/2016 10:32AM - in reply to LetsRun.com
      • sbeefyk1
        registered
      • He is ok. The rule applies to the vice versa.

        In other words, if he ran unattached in a college race and then wore his jersey at the road race he would ruin his redshirt season. Even with that he could still sign up as unattached for the road race and then things get complicated. It falls back on the school to allow this or not. Some schools are protective and want their athletes to only represent the school. Others are less protective.

        Long story short, there is nothing wrong with running a road race mid season. The only con is how will this affect his indoor training?
    • Prize $ ?
      • RE: NCAA indoor 5000 leader Marc Scott of Tulsa (13:38) just ran a 29:33 10k road race in Europe 12/29/2016 11:01AM - in reply to LetsRun.com
      • Prize $ ?
      • Did he accept any prize money?

        That may affect his eligibility.
    • Alias Higgenbothom...
      • RE: NCAA indoor 5000 leader Marc Scott of Tulsa (13:38) just ran a 29:33 10k road race in Europe 12/29/2016 1:47PM - in reply to Prize $ ?
      • Alias Higgenbothom...
      • His mistake was using his real name when he signed up.
    • Just an outsider
      • RE: NCAA indoor 5000 leader Marc Scott of Tulsa (13:38) just ran a 29:33 10k road race in Europe 12/29/2016 3:40PM - in reply to jjjjjjj
      • Just an outsider
      • It seems absurd that the NCAA holds such absolute power over the lives of individuals. They should be able to do whatever they choose in their free time, whether it's for money or not.
    • NCAA rules
      • RE: NCAA indoor 5000 leader Marc Scott of Tulsa (13:38) just ran a 29:33 10k road race in Europe 12/29/2016 4:38PM - in reply to Just an outsider
      • NCAA rules
      • .... riiiight;
        Like bet on college sports, take recreational drugs, etc.

        They should able to do whatever they want to do in their spare time. Poor student-athletes.
    • 800ftw.
      registered
      • RE: NCAA indoor 5000 leader Marc Scott of Tulsa (13:38) just ran a 29:33 10k road race in Europe 12/29/2016 4:48PM - in reply to Prize $ ?
      • 800ftw.
        registered
      • Prize $ ? wrote:
        Did he accept any prize money?

        That may affect his eligibility.
        Highly doubt it was for money in the UK.