Mo Farah's twin brother..

uylp wrote:

Seriously, dude is a genetic copy of Mo.. How long do you guys think it would take to train his brother into 16min 5k shape from average joe body/non runner?

I dont think their is any questions "IF" he could do it, they are literally the same genetically and we know genetically where MO stands, so don't start with asking if its possible

How long into 16min 5k shape? Like with any eastern african runner with a decent amount of talent, that would be about 4-6 months of light (30mpw) training. Your scale of 'good' seems kinda off.

The good thing for the running scene with the current wave of refugees coming into europe is, that the average white runner (16min 5k/ 34min 10k) gets to witness what real talent means and is shown how untalented and weak he is.

'untalented' eastern african guy: 4-6 months of light training (30mpw) -> mid 16min 5k

'reasonably' talented african guy: 4-6 months of light training (30mpw) -> 31 minute 10k

'highly' talented guys: sub 30 within the first year, sub 29 within the second year of dedicated training.

Its awesome to see it happening in your local running scene. Guys that train like 60-80mpw for years and are used to winning every road race (the local heroes) just get blown away. Im in the same situation and its a great bonus for every aspiring runner. You finish with a nice 10k PB but lose the race by about 2-3minutes. Makes you stay a little more humble.

There is little doubt in me that his twin brother could NOT break 30 minutes for 10k within 2 years.

10'000 hours of course! Duuh!

Identical twins can be different because of environmental factors.

Hwhat wrote:

uylp wrote:

your brothers did not try, that was the difference.

Take the olympic triplets for example, they are all identical and all of their marathon times are within seconds of each other.

At 20, there's a 3 inch height difference and I weigh 30 lbs less than either of them despite being the tallest. We scored 15 points apart on an IQ test, 3 on the ACT, and only one of us got SIDS (he lived) as babies.

LOTS OF ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS.

Thats GENETIC factors

You sound like you are contradicting yourself.

Mo's brother would develop just like Hammou Boutayeb did. Take up running in early 30s and two years later attempt a 10k WR

Maybe you are right if we are talking about high talent and chemical assistance, but after witnessing some development of reasonably to reasonably high talented athletes the steps from sub 30 to something way quicker take a lot more time, mileage and dedication. If Mo Farahs twin brother has been rather inactive for the last decade or so it takes 2 years++ to fully develop heart, blood volume, mitochondria and muscle/tendon structure suited to fast running. Again, we are talking about no chemical assistance.

Fraternal Twinky wrote:

Hwhat wrote:

At 20, there's a 3 inch height difference and I weigh 30 lbs less than either of them despite being the tallest. We scored 15 points apart on an IQ test, 3 on the ACT, and only one of us got SIDS (he lived) as babies.

LOTS OF ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS.

Then you are fraternal triple and not identical. The two of them might be identical. You are not.

If they are triplets, high probability they were premature. If he came through the NICU stay pretty unscathed, this would explain a lot for his outcome. A collapsed lung, a brain bleed, cerebral palsy, vision problems, hearing problems, etc... which are common in infants born

MrGambinus wrote:

Maybe you are right if we are talking about high talent and chemical assistance, but after witnessing some development of reasonably to reasonably high talented athletes the steps from sub 30 to something way quicker take a lot more time, mileage and dedication. If Mo Farahs twin brother has been rather inactive for the last decade or so it takes 2 years++ to fully develop heart, blood volume, mitochondria and muscle/tendon structure suited to fast running. Again, we are talking about no chemical assistance.

Boot I ebb wrote:

You sound like you are contradicting yourself.

Mo's brother would develop just like Hammou Boutayeb did. Take up running in early 30s and two years later attempt a 10k WR

He is way more than reasonably talented. He's Mo Farah's replica, not some wejo-like chump.

wejo was faster than rojo.

90% of being a world class athlete is mental.

Bring Back the 880 wrote:

1. Good point. On topic, it's obvious that Mo is the evil twin, and the only of the two willing to dope to Salazar's specifications.

2. This still does not make any sense of your claims. Also, doctors don't measure height, weight, etc. They just don't.

3. "My brother and I" were included. I tip my hat to your subtle grammar error signifying the troll post.

Height and weight are two of the easiest things to measure and hardest to understand in terms of genetic and heredity, doctors definitely do measure them, especially in twin studies

Mr. Obvious wrote:

wejo was faster than rojo.

Rojo is the younger twin, so is Mo.

'untalented' eastern african guy: 4-6 months of light training (30mpw) -> mid 16min 5k

'reasonably' talented african guy: 4-6 months of light training (30mpw) -> 31 minute 10k

'highly' talented guys: sub 30 within the first year, sub 29 within the second year of dedicated training.

Its awesome to see it happening in your local running scene. Guys that train like 60-80mpw for years and are used to winning every road race (the local heroes) just get blown away. Im in the same situation and its a great bonus for every aspiring runner. You finish with a nice 10k PB but lose the race by about 2-3minutes. Makes you stay a little more humble.

There is little doubt in me that his twin brother could NOT break 30 minutes for 10k within 2 years.[/quote]

'East africans' aren't good at running, its this one group of kenyans (A "tribe" that makes up about 12% of the population) and some ethiopians.

very few people are gunna get to 30min 10k from 0 training after a year, one of the reasons that the africans are good is running as transport from an early age... looking at the size of farahs twin it looks like he ain't been doing much of that. I d say he'd need 3 years to get to national standard.

But would he looked relaxed?

ChuggsBunny wrote:

Height and weight are two of the easiest things to measure and hardest to understand in terms of genetic and heredity, doctors definitely do measure them, especially in twin studies

Pretty sure I've only ever seen nurses or techs take those measurements. I've never been in a study though (real or fake).

He is way more than reasonably talented. He's Mo Farah's replica, not the replica of some chump like wejo.

Mr. Obvious wrote:

wejo was faster than rojo.

It would depend on the training montage. I mean if it were Rocky IV music and the middle of Soviet Russia than for sure, he could. But if its something a little more soft and karate kid like than no.

It's called epigenetics. It's not an issue of having the same DNA sequences, but how those sequences are methylated and transcribed

MO's brother should lose some weight and take the starting line for MO at his next big marathon using his race bib. No one would know the difference unless he "opened his mouth". It would be funny to see all the hobby joggers catch up and pass him