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    • HardLoper
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      • RE: 4:00 mile/29:06 10000m double with 45 minutes between them 12/18/2016 2:51PM - in reply to Dingler
      • HardLoper
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      • Dingler wrote:
        WTH they have pace makers in their national champs?
        It's not the championships
    • NOP Skeptic
      • RE: 4:00 mile/29:06 10000m double with 45 minutes between them 12/18/2016 6:19PM - in reply to
      • NOP Skeptic
      • So an all out mile with a Salazar post race 6.2 mile tempo right after?

        This is what it looks like to me

        When I first saw there was the mile was 4:00 and the 10k was 45mins later, I was thinking a 28:15-28:20, but a 29:06? That's 4:42 mile pace, that's a hard tempo for a 4:00 miler.

        The fact that he did that 45mins afterwards is pretty impressive
    • sewmyoats
      • RE: 4:00 mile/29:06 10000m double with 45 minutes between them 12/18/2016 7:05PM - in reply to Dingler
      • sewmyoats
      • Dingler wrote:
        WTH they have pace makers in their national champs?
        Country town meet.
    • Farflung
      • RE: 4:00 mile/29:06 10000m double with 45 minutes between them 12/18/2016 7:22PM - in reply to NOP Skeptic
      • Farflung
      • The guy is not a marathoner. 28:45 is the equivalent of 4:00. 28:15 would be like a 3:55. Fine for Galen Rupp maybe.


        NOP Skeptic wrote:
        So an all out mile with a Salazar post race 6.2 mile tempo right after?

        This is what it looks like to me

        When I first saw there was the mile was 4:00 and the 10k was 45mins later, I was thinking a 28:15-28:20, but a 29:06? That's 4:42 mile pace, that's a hard tempo for a 4:00 miler.

        The fact that he did that 45mins afterwards is pretty impressive
    • JordanGusman
      • RE: 4:00 mile/29:06 10000m double with 45 minutes between them 12/19/2016 3:02AM - in reply to Blinky Bill
      • JordanGusman
      • Lol i've never been injured, don't plan to be either :)
    • Corey D
      • RE: 4:00 mile/29:06 10000m double with 45 minutes between them 12/19/2016 5:15AM - in reply to JordanGusman
      • Corey D
      • If you are capable of running a 4:00 Mile then a 29:06 10,000m is not a very difficult task for you. I did something similar at NAIA’s back in 2006. I did not run a 4:00 mile but ran a 3:51 1500m which is my guess a solid 4:06-4:07 Mile. I came back later in the day not 45 minutes later but a couple of hours later and ran a 29:44 10,000m 4:47 pace. My top 10,000m time however was however 29:05 and that felt like a jog when you are capable of running a 4:01 mile at the time. This athlete if far superior then I was so I agree this was nothing more than a tempo run for his mixed with a nice mile warm-up to get the legs going. Keep in mind when you are in the type of shape he is in a faster shorter race beforehand does not take much out of you if anything it breaks the rust off and gets you ready to roll.
    • elmore345
      • RE: 4:00 mile/29:06 10000m double with 45 minutes between them 12/19/2016 8:50AM - in reply to Corey D
      • elmore345
      • Give him a break dude - he won both events, couldnt have done much better. Prob would have run faster times if pushed.
    • bigtool05
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      • RE: 4:00 mile/29:06 10000m double with 45 minutes between them 12/19/2016 10:12AM - in reply to Corey D
      • bigtool05
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      • Corey D wrote:
        If you are capable of running a 4:00 Mile then a 29:06 10,000m is not a very difficult task for you. I did something similar at NAIA’s back in 2006. I did not run a 4:00 mile but ran a 3:51 1500m which is my guess a solid 4:06-4:07 Mile. I came back later in the day not 45 minutes later but a couple of hours later and ran a 29:44 10,000m 4:47 pace. My top 10,000m time however was however 29:05 and that felt like a jog when you are capable of running a 4:01 mile at the time. This athlete if far superior then I was so I agree this was nothing more than a tempo run for his mixed with a nice mile warm-up to get the legs going. Keep in mind when you are in the type of shape he is in a faster shorter race beforehand does not take much out of you if anything it breaks the rust off and gets you ready to roll.
        Many if not most 4:00 milers can't run 29:00 totally fresh all out, let alone as a tempo 45 minutes after another race.
    • Benjamins
      • RE: 4:00 mile/29:06 10000m double with 45 minutes between them 12/19/2016 1:21PM - in reply to Corey D
      • Benjamins
      • Hey everyone Corey D wants you to know he ran 3:51 and 29:05!! Way to go Corey D!!
    • what was your brain doing?!
      • RE: 4:00 mile/29:06 10000m double with 45 minutes between them 12/19/2016 1:32PM - in reply to Corey D
      • what was your brain doing?!
      • nice comparison, apples to oranges

        4:06/07 is a lot effing different than a 4:00 mile

        and 29:44 and 29:06 are on different tiers as well.

        45 minutes and "later in the day" are also pretty significant

        nice try


        Corey D wrote:
        If you are capable of running a 4:00 Mile then a 29:06 10,000m is not a very difficult task for you. I did something similar at NAIA’s back in 2006. I did not run a 4:00 mile but ran a 3:51 1500m which is my guess a solid 4:06-4:07 Mile. I came back later in the day not 45 minutes later but a couple of hours later and ran a 29:44 10,000m 4:47 pace. My top 10,000m time however was however 29:05 and that felt like a jog when you are capable of running a 4:01 mile at the time. This athlete if far superior then I was so I agree this was nothing more than a tempo run for his mixed with a nice mile warm-up to get the legs going. Keep in mind when you are in the type of shape he is in a faster shorter race beforehand does not take much out of you if anything it breaks the rust off and gets you ready to roll.
    • Dennis T Reynolds
      • RE: 4:00 mile/29:06 10000m double with 45 minutes between them 12/19/2016 1:46PM - in reply to Corey D
      • Dennis T Reynolds
      • Corey D wrote:
        If you are capable of running a 4:00 Mile then a 29:06 10,000m is not a very difficult task for you. I did something similar at NAIA’s back in 2006. I did not run a 4:00 mile but ran a 3:51 1500m which is my guess a solid 4:06-4:07 Mile. I came back later in the day not 45 minutes later but a couple of hours later and ran a 29:44 10,000m 4:47 pace. My top 10,000m time however was however 29:05 and that felt like a jog when you are capable of running a 4:01 mile at the time. This athlete if far superior then I was so I agree this was nothing more than a tempo run for his mixed with a nice mile warm-up to get the legs going. Keep in mind when you are in the type of shape he is in a faster shorter race beforehand does not take much out of you if anything it breaks the rust off and gets you ready to roll.
        Huh? What?
    • malmo
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      • RE: 4:00 mile/29:06 10000m double with 45 minutes between them 12/19/2016 1:47PM - in reply to Corey D
      • malmo
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      • Yeah, that's pretty good, unless some one comes up with seven minute abs?

        TOMMY FULTON

        Actual results in yards.1973 NAIA

        Wednesday, May 23, 1973

        7:45 pm 1 mile heats
        1. 4:08.3 Tommy Fulton, Texas Southern
        2. 4:08.8 Mike Boit, Eastern New Mexico

        9:20 pm 880 heats
        1. 1:50.2 Tommy Fulton, Texas Southern

        10:30pm 3 mile heats
        1. 13:58.2 Tommy Fulton, Texas Southern
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        Thursday, May 24, 1973

        8:40 pm 880 semi-finals
        1. 1:50.2 Tommy Fulton, Texas Southern

        9:20 pm 3 mile final
        1. 13:33.4 Tommy Fulton, Texas Southern
        2. 13:34.2 Rex Maddaford Eastern New Mexico
        3. 13:38.2 Phillip Ndoo Eastern New Mexico
        -----------------------------

        Friday, May 25, 1973

        7:45 pm 1 Mile final
        1. 3:57.8 Tommy Fulton, Texas Southern
        2. 3:58.5 Bob Maplestone, Eastern Washington
        3. 4:00.3 Mike Boit, Eastern New Mexico

        8:45 pm 880 final
        1. 1:47.7 Mike Boit, Eastern New Mexico
        2. 1:48.8 Tommy Fulton, Texas Southern

        9:15 pm 6 mile final
        1. 28:42.2 Peter Fredrikkson,
        2. 28:55.2 Tommy Fulton, Texas Southern
    • Nut Buster
      • RE: 4:00 mile/29:06 10000m double with 45 minutes between them 12/19/2016 4:31PM - in reply to malmo
      • Nut Buster
      • It all pretty simple just do sprint and marathon program at same time and that way you can run all distances!
    • Teamtelford fan
      • RE: 4:00 mile/29:06 10000m double with 45 minutes between them 12/19/2016 5:02PM - in reply to JordanGusman
      • Teamtelford fan
      • Keep up the good work Gus, great to see you running fast while studying and not jumping on the MTC bandwagon like everyone else.
    • fastest in your town
      • RE: 4:00 mile/29:06 10000m double with 45 minutes between them 12/19/2016 7:13PM - in reply to Larry Donohue
      • fastest in your town
      • The most interesting thing about all this is there's a dude called Williamsz.
    • ezby
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      • RE: 4:00 mile/29:06 10000m double with 45 minutes between them 12/19/2016 9:24PM - in reply to fastest in your town
      • ezby
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      • fastest in your town wrote:
        The most interesting thing about all this is there's a dude called Williamsz.
        Why is that interesting?
    • (-_-)
      • RE: 4:00 mile/29:06 10000m double with 45 minutes between them 12/19/2016 11:17PM - in reply to bigtool05
      • (-_-)
      • bigtool05 wrote:
        Many if not most 4:00 milers can't run 29:00 totally fresh all out, let alone as a tempo 45 minutes after another race.
        +1. Very true.

        Also to Mr. Braggy McBraggypants over there, 3:51.xx is worth 4:09-4:10.