4:00 mile/29:06 10000m double with 45 minutes between them

WTH they have pace makers in their national champs?

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Dingler wrote:

WTH they have pace makers in their national champs?

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So an all out mile with a Salazar post race 6.2 mile tempo right after?

This is what it looks like to me

When I first saw there was the mile was 4:00 and the 10k was 45mins later, I was thinking a 28:15-28:20, but a 29:06? That's 4:42 mile pace, that's a hard tempo for a 4:00 miler.

The fact that he did that 45mins afterwards is pretty impressive

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Dingler wrote:

WTH they have pace makers in their national champs?

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The guy is not a marathoner. 28:45 is the equivalent of 4:00. 28:15 would be like a 3:55. Fine for Galen Rupp maybe.

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NOP Skeptic wrote:

So an all out mile with a Salazar post race 6.2 mile tempo right after?

This is what it looks like to me

When I first saw there was the mile was 4:00 and the 10k was 45mins later, I was thinking a 28:15-28:20, but a 29:06? That's 4:42 mile pace, that's a hard tempo for a 4:00 miler.

The fact that he did that 45mins afterwards is pretty impressive

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Pointless, will be injured by nationals.

Lol i've never been injured, don't plan to be either :)

If you are capable of running a 4:00 Mile then a 29:06 10,000m is not a very difficult task for you. I did something similar at NAIA’s back in 2006. I did not run a 4:00 mile but ran a 3:51 1500m which is my guess a solid 4:06-4:07 Mile. I came back later in the day not 45 minutes later but a couple of hours later and ran a 29:44 10,000m 4:47 pace. My top 10,000m time however was however 29:05 and that felt like a jog when you are capable of running a 4:01 mile at the time. This athlete if far superior then I was so I agree this was nothing more than a tempo run for his mixed with a nice mile warm-up to get the legs going. Keep in mind when you are in the type of shape he is in a faster shorter race beforehand does not take much out of you if anything it breaks the rust off and gets you ready to roll.

Give him a break dude - he won both events, couldnt have done much better. Prob would have run faster times if pushed.

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Corey D wrote:

If you are capable of running a 4:00 Mile then a 29:06 10,000m is not a very difficult task for you. I did something similar at NAIA’s back in 2006. I did not run a 4:00 mile but ran a 3:51 1500m which is my guess a solid 4:06-4:07 Mile. I came back later in the day not 45 minutes later but a couple of hours later and ran a 29:44 10,000m 4:47 pace. My top 10,000m time however was however 29:05 and that felt like a jog when you are capable of running a 4:01 mile at the time. This athlete if far superior then I was so I agree this was nothing more than a tempo run for his mixed with a nice mile warm-up to get the legs going. Keep in mind when you are in the type of shape he is in a faster shorter race beforehand does not take much out of you if anything it breaks the rust off and gets you ready to roll.

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Hey everyone Corey D wants you to know he ran 3:51 and 29:05!! Way to go Corey D!!

nice comparison, apples to oranges

4:06/07 is a lot effing different than a 4:00 mile

and 29:44 and 29:06 are on different tiers as well.

45 minutes and "later in the day" are also pretty significant

nice try

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Corey D wrote:

If you are capable of running a 4:00 Mile then a 29:06 10,000m is not a very difficult task for you. I did something similar at NAIA’s back in 2006. I did not run a 4:00 mile but ran a 3:51 1500m which is my guess a solid 4:06-4:07 Mile. I came back later in the day not 45 minutes later but a couple of hours later and ran a 29:44 10,000m 4:47 pace. My top 10,000m time however was however 29:05 and that felt like a jog when you are capable of running a 4:01 mile at the time. This athlete if far superior then I was so I agree this was nothing more than a tempo run for his mixed with a nice mile warm-up to get the legs going. Keep in mind when you are in the type of shape he is in a faster shorter race beforehand does not take much out of you if anything it breaks the rust off and gets you ready to roll.

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Corey D wrote:

If you are capable of running a 4:00 Mile then a 29:06 10,000m is not a very difficult task for you. I did something similar at NAIA’s back in 2006. I did not run a 4:00 mile but ran a 3:51 1500m which is my guess a solid 4:06-4:07 Mile. I came back later in the day not 45 minutes later but a couple of hours later and ran a 29:44 10,000m 4:47 pace. My top 10,000m time however was however 29:05 and that felt like a jog when you are capable of running a 4:01 mile at the time. This athlete if far superior then I was so I agree this was nothing more than a tempo run for his mixed with a nice mile warm-up to get the legs going. Keep in mind when you are in the type of shape he is in a faster shorter race beforehand does not take much out of you if anything it breaks the rust off and gets you ready to roll.

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Yeah, that's pretty good, unless some one comes up with seven minute abs?

TOMMY FULTON

Actual results in yards.1973 NAIA

Wednesday, May 23, 1973

7:45 pm 1 mile heats
1. 4:08.3 Tommy Fulton, Texas Southern
2. 4:08.8 Mike Boit, Eastern New Mexico

9:20 pm 880 heats
1. 1:50.2 Tommy Fulton, Texas Southern

10:30pm 3 mile heats
1. 13:58.2 Tommy Fulton, Texas Southern
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Thursday, May 24, 1973

8:40 pm 880 semi-finals
1. 1:50.2 Tommy Fulton, Texas Southern

9:20 pm 3 mile final
1. 13:33.4 Tommy Fulton, Texas Southern
2. 13:34.2 Rex Maddaford Eastern New Mexico
3. 13:38.2 Phillip Ndoo Eastern New Mexico
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Friday, May 25, 1973

7:45 pm 1 Mile final
1. 3:57.8 Tommy Fulton, Texas Southern
2. 3:58.5 Bob Maplestone, Eastern Washington
3. 4:00.3 Mike Boit, Eastern New Mexico

8:45 pm 880 final
1. 1:47.7 Mike Boit, Eastern New Mexico
2. 1:48.8 Tommy Fulton, Texas Southern

9:15 pm 6 mile final
1. 28:42.2 Peter Fredrikkson,
2. 28:55.2 Tommy Fulton, Texas Southern

It all pretty simple just do sprint and marathon program at same time and that way you can run all distances!

Keep up the good work Gus, great to see you running fast while studying and not jumping on the MTC bandwagon like everyone else.

The most interesting thing about all this is there's a dude called Williamsz.

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fastest in your town wrote:

The most interesting thing about all this is there's a dude called Williamsz.

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bigtool05 wrote:
Many if not most 4:00 milers can't run 29:00 totally fresh all out, let alone as a tempo 45 minutes after another race.

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