Gotta have the do re mi.
Gotta have the do re mi.
Because most people are closed-minded and not very bright and many do not even have adequate financial resources to travel there. Then they run into the problem that their education may not allow them to find a job fast enough there to stay afloat to pay the relatively high cost of living (rent). Most of them also know that they will never own property there. Also, Their parents likely grew up in Trump territory (or an area where salaries and education are low) - such as the mid west - and because of the terrible and depressing job markets there (rust belt), they may be still living with their parents so that place they grew up in is all they know or have experienced.
The LetsRun demographic is a very different story because those guys (i.e. You guys) likely have smart parents, likely grew up with adequate resources, may have had to take out student loans in some cases but at least live in an area with some jobs for the educated.
All this blue collar talk when it comes to distance running, but it is generally at the very least anmiddle to upper-middle to upper-class sport.
Suffer NOT wrote:
You only live once.
Earthquakes.
Moji 🤗 wrote:
Because most people are closed-minded and not very bright and many do not even have adequate financial resources to travel there. Then they run into the problem that their education may not allow them to find a job fast enough there to stay afloat to pay the relatively high cost of living (rent). Most of them also know that they will never own property there. Also, Their parents likely grew up in Trump territory (or an area where salaries and education are low) - such as the mid west - and because of the terrible and depressing job markets there (rust belt), they may be still living with their parents so that place they grew up in is all they know or have experienced.
The LetsRun demographic is a very different story because those guys (i.e. You guys) likely have smart parents, likely grew up with adequate resources, may have had to take out student loans in some cases but at least live in an area with some jobs for the educated.
All this blue collar talk when it comes to distance running, but it is generally at the very least anmiddle to upper-middle to upper-class sport.
Also, I do not believe California real estate market is "out of control." The price may soften a bit once rates rise but it isn't going down sharply anytime soon. If you work hard enough and aren't a dumb*ss, you can find a way to own something there too (albeit very small) if you wanted to. Just sayin
FijiBeeGees wrote:
Suffer NOT wrote:You only live once.
Earthquakes.
Life-threatening earthquakes in California are pretty rare, like one every 10-20 years. So, 3-5 really big ones in a lifetime. So, 5-10 minutes when you are in some jeopardy if you are in the wrong kind of structure and close enough to the epicenter for it to do some damage.
The terrible weather around the rest of the country is much more hazardous than are a few earthquakes.
Full disclosure: I do not live in California but my friend does and he loves it there. I (chose to) live in another up and coming place in Colorado.
Moji 🤗 wrote:
Full disclosure: I do not live in California but my friend does and he loves it there. I (chose to) live in another up and coming place in Colorado.
Cool. Colorado has a lot of great spots.. I'm not sure why it's so much better than the rest of that part of the country, but it is.
I've never understood the intense hatred of cold weather. If you dress properly with winter clothing you can do just as much outside as you would in the summer. I encourage anyone who lives somewhere that has a winter to take up a winter hobby - ice fishing, skiing, snowmobiling, xc skiing, etc. I used to hate winter, but I took up ice fishing and now my favorite part of the year is when the weather starts dipping below zero.
Why would you live in a place with no (minimal) fresh water when you're free to live near the largest freshwater lakes in the world?
Suffer NOT wrote:
You only live once.
Hahaha! I grew up in Southern California. My grandparents (RIP)--on both sides--moved out there from the east coast in the 1950s after WWII.
I will never forget a conversation I had with my maternal Grandfather after I graduated from college (I did undergrad in California) and was getting ready to move out east more schooling. While he was proud of me he said, "you know we moved here (California) for a reason, I don't know why anyone would ever want to deal with the winter out there (mid west/ east coast)."
He was so right! I have since lived in major cities in the mid west and on the east coast and I can tell you there is a lot of BS flying around on this thread. Almost everyone in the country defines a "nice day" as 70 degrees and sunny. This crap about "I like the cold" or "I like season" is a defense mechanism that helps them cope with the miserable weather that effects their lives on a constant basis.
Plus, it is totally inaccurate to say that California doesn't have seasons or that the weather is always the same. In Southern California--you can go surfing in the AM and be in the mountains skiing by afternoon. It's truly a special place that people tend to criticizes out of jealousy or ignorance (i.e. They've visited for a few days but really not seen much or they have never been there at all but their politics dictates that they MUST hate all things California).
I haven't lived in California now for almost twenty years but I do miss it. Fourtnately, we have a beach house out there and I do get to visit frequently as most of my family is still living on the west coast. There are great things about most parts of this country but weather is not one of them.
Murder Dubs wrote:
Overall, Southern California is a cool place to be, far better, in my experience, than 95% of the country, which is a weather nightmare lacking on so many levels (natural beauty, commerce, infrastructure, variety of experience, industry, the ability to make a ton of money, college choices, entertainment choices, to name a few) that myself and 40 million others like me would rather deal with the price gouging than leave for more desolate pastures.
Indeed, the CA economy by far trumps most other nations. The UC schools are worth it. However, is all of it worth the lower discretionary income?
Murder Dubs wrote:
I live in the Bay, which is even more expensive than SoCal.
That said, the Bay has a far more deeply entrenched intellectual culture than does SoCal. It has some of the East Coast's ease of transportation, energy and population density, combined with better weather than NYC and far more options for jaw-dropping natural wonder than you'll get in SoCal or many of the East Coast metro areas.
Agreed. The amount of the Bay Area lacking in SoCal is incredible. This is why I'd take SF over LA even with the increased costs.
Lomez wrote:
I've never understood the intense hatred of cold weather. If you dress properly with winter clothing you can do just as much outside as you would in the summer. I encourage anyone who lives somewhere that has a winter to take up a winter hobby - ice fishing, skiing, snowmobiling, xc skiing, etc. I used to hate winter, but I took up ice fishing and now my favorite part of the year is when the weather starts dipping below zero.
People like different things. I know people who enjoy cold weather, but I've never been one of them. I don't want to have to bundle up to go outside. I like shorts and t-shirts. I like working up a good sweat on a run and the feel of warm sunshine.
Suffer NOT wrote:
You only live once.
I keep reading that the Big One is inevitable and already overdue.
Randy Wholeway wrote:
Lomez wrote:I've never understood the intense hatred of cold weather. If you dress properly with winter clothing you can do just as much outside as you would in the summer. I encourage anyone who lives somewhere that has a winter to take up a winter hobby - ice fishing, skiing, snowmobiling, xc skiing, etc. I used to hate winter, but I took up ice fishing and now my favorite part of the year is when the weather starts dipping below zero.
People like different things. I know people who enjoy cold weather, but I've never been one of them. I don't want to have to bundle up to go outside. I like shorts and t-shirts. I like working up a good sweat on a run and the feel of warm sunshine.
The cool thing is that there are places where you can have both in the same place.
Seasons are cool wrote:
Randy Wholeway wrote:People like different things. I know people who enjoy cold weather, but I've never been one of them. I don't want to have to bundle up to go outside. I like shorts and t-shirts. I like working up a good sweat on a run and the feel of warm sunshine.
The cool thing is that there are places where you can have both in the same place.
Yup, there are places like that. One of them is called California.
The weird part is driving around So Cal where 1/3rd of the license plates are constantly throughout the year out-of-state plates.
I can drive in winter conditions, I want to live in a place where skiing and hockey are things, am I'm not a wuss about being cold. Bonus points that my local climate keeps people away, I don't like crowds of people getting in my way.
Have fun in the sun, glad you're not here.
Suffer NOT wrote:
You only live once.
LOL
People now stay away from CA because 'un-lazy' people need to work for a living. CA now has 40% of the nation's welfare cases (not 33% as the media always claims). It's interesting that the bulk of those are of course from a so-called hard working minority group that does in fact work - and collects welfare at the same time. In CA 71% of Hispanics now collect some form of govt. program, not the 63% the media trumpets (the media always plays down unflattering info about POCs).
Many married Hispanic women - legals and illegals - claim to be single mothers or that hubby has left the home, and then collect all the gibmedats that the govt. wants to throw at them. The govt. does not follow up on any of these, preferring to throw one or two cases a year to the wolves to make it look like something is being done. This is the replacement population for the US, in order to turn the US into a country that can fit the Latin American model, with people like Hillary that you all love so much living like royalty while the public lives like the peasants they were meant to be. Ask George Soros and the rest of his ethnic ilk.
Why do I mention welfare etc.? Because taxpayers are fleeing CA in record numbers. Businesses are getting hammered tax wise, and unless Mr. Mouth Trump can really turn things around, IT, entertainment, and the remnants of the aerospace industry will lose the tax breaks they have and will also be forced to move. Entertainment might continue to get breaks as it is dominated by those who are the main force behind trying to sink the US and the West. Laugh now, then do some research.
So one and all, come to CA, and then try to find a job. Then try to find a place to live that isn't suffering from the encroachment of the 'immigrant' populations from Latin America and their incredible levels of crime that the media and law enforcement hide. In CA, TX, etc. law enforcement (the FBI does this nationally) classify Hispanic victims as Hispanic, but Hispanic criminals as "White". This hides the tidal wave of crime. Then of course local law enforcement has been ORDERED by the federal govt. to change the way crimes are reported in order to make the levels of crime look much lower than they really are (ask any member of local law enforcement).
The cucks in CA pretend everything is great while taxes go up, incomes go down and various populations from South of Former Border roll in and commit murder at rates from 5 to 10 higher than those hated Whites, and commit robberies, burglaries, etc. at rates 50 - 300 times the rate of those rotten palefaces. But you can't mention these facts without being called racist.
CA has lost millions of taxpayers to NV, TX, FL and other states with business and taxpayer-friendly state governments. The state govt. of CA is run by an Assembly filled with crybaby Hispanics, the "needy Hispanics" as Hillary and crew referred to them (they called them whiners as well, read those emails lol) who have an axe to grind, and most of the rest of the Assembly are cucks who are self hating and do anything the zio Assembly members want in order to ruin the state. In other words, they take AIPAC's cash-stuffed envelopes and follow orders.
If Trump can fix things, then CA will again be A-Ok. That's a big if. The Hispanics who have poured in over the past 25 years need to assimilate (probably half are incapable I hate to say, and that's being optimistic) and the illegals should be run out. It's doable, as the bolsheviks and mensheviks moved 18 million people around the USSR between 1918 and 1923 in order to foment problems between various ethnic groups, keep the population distracted while the folks in charge looted and pillaged and murdered. Same reasons the descendants of the mensheviks etc. (Jacob Javitz, Emanuel Celler, etc.) pushed for massive 3rd world immigration into the US, finally getting it through in 1965 (the Immigration Act of 1965) making 90% of all legal immigration from the third world and only 10% from Europe or Japan, and first world regions. Of course Celler and crew made sure their own, highly privileged and nepotistic group is always listed as "refugees" and receives top treatment over all other ethnic groups wishing to emigrate to the US.
The US needs to shut down all immigration, and then slowly make things fair for everyone, but starting with skilled Europeans and E. Asian immigrants, with Europeans getting the nod for a while as they have been discriminated against by official policy for over 50 years. A peasant from Mexico with nothing, who will likely go on welfare forever in CA, or someone similar from Eritrea, will get preference over a European immigrant who graduated at the top of their medical school class. This is no exaggeration.
If you think the immigration debacle is by chance or accident you are clueless. The cucks can scream and cry racist, but that's because they have no facts to back what their masters claim.
CA is a mess and so goes the rest of the country unless things change radically. You can see the same mess in IL, NY, etc. It's coming to your front door if Soros, Jacob Rothschild, the Rockefellers, Warburgs and others have their way. Sure, it's all "conspiracy theory". If there weren't conspiracies, there wouldn't be laws against them. Ask Bernie Madoff, Nixon, LBJ, Reagan, Obama and others who have turned up in scandals that involved conspiracy. Obama's legacy is littered with things like this, like sending guns to Mexico lol, but the media looks the other way. Wonder why? lol
No money in CA like there used to be. Close the borders. Cut taxes. Remove the non-native freeloaders and their anchor-babies who are in fact NOT citizens under the law (that lie needs to be corrected and the law enforced as written). The 14th Amendment was written to help / protect former slaves, not be used for peasants to hop the border, squat and pop out a golden ticket to eternal gibmedats courtesy of American taxpayers.
sufferin succotash wrote:
Because suffering through smog, endless traffic jams, gangs, bizarre people, fake people, 13% state income tax, over priced housing etc. seems worse.
I just wish Californians would stop moving into western WA and creating all the same problems here.
To be fair, not all places in CA have all that. I've gotta admit LaJolla, CA is a pretty awesome place to visit. I couldn't afford a home there though.
As a so cal resident all those things you say are true. But it's December and most days this month I've been able to run without a shirt comfortably. The weather here is awesome and as a skinny distance runner who is sensitive to the cold I can deal with a lot of the negative things for the weather. Plus there are some vey nice areas down here and there are certain things in California, like the craft beer scene, that many other states don't have.
Like anywhere living in California has positives and negatives.
The taxes and home prices do blow.
Truth Hurts the Cucks wrote:
Suffer NOT wrote:You only live once.
LOL
People now stay away from CA because 'un-lazy' people need to work for a living. CA now has 40% of the nation's welfare cases (not 33% as the media always claims). It's interesting that the bulk of those are of course from a so-called hard working minority group that does in fact work - and collects welfare at the same time. In CA 71% of Hispanics now collect some form of govt. program, not the 63% the media trumpets (the media always plays down unflattering info about POCs).
Many married Hispanic women - legals and illegals - claim to be single mothers or that hubby has left the home, and then collect all the gibmedats that the govt. wants to throw at them. The govt. does not follow up on any of these, preferring to throw one or two cases a year to the wolves to make it look like something is being done. This is the replacement population for the US, in order to turn the US into a country that can fit the Latin American model, with people like Hillary that you all love so much living like royalty while the public lives like the peasants they were meant to be. Ask George Soros and the rest of his ethnic ilk.
Why do I mention welfare etc.? Because taxpayers are fleeing CA in record numbers. Businesses are getting hammered tax wise, and unless Mr. Mouth Trump can really turn things around, IT, entertainment, and the remnants of the aerospace industry will lose the tax breaks they have and will also be forced to move. Entertainment might continue to get breaks as it is dominated by those who are the main force behind trying to sink the US and the West. Laugh now, then do some research.
So one and all, come to CA, and then try to find a job. Then try to find a place to live that isn't suffering from the encroachment of the 'immigrant' populations from Latin America and their incredible levels of crime that the media and law enforcement hide. In CA, TX, etc. law enforcement (the FBI does this nationally) classify Hispanic victims as Hispanic, but Hispanic criminals as "White". This hides the tidal wave of crime. Then of course local law enforcement has been ORDERED by the federal govt. to change the way crimes are reported in order to make the levels of crime look much lower than they really are (ask any member of local law enforcement).
The cucks in CA pretend everything is great while taxes go up, incomes go down and various populations from South of Former Border roll in and commit murder at rates from 5 to 10 higher than those hated Whites, and commit robberies, burglaries, etc. at rates 50 - 300 times the rate of those rotten palefaces. But you can't mention these facts without being called racist.
CA has lost millions of taxpayers to NV, TX, FL and other states with business and taxpayer-friendly state governments. The state govt. of CA is run by an Assembly filled with crybaby Hispanics, the "needy Hispanics" as Hillary and crew referred to them (they called them whiners as well, read those emails lol) who have an axe to grind, and most of the rest of the Assembly are cucks who are self hating and do anything the zio Assembly members want in order to ruin the state. In other words, they take AIPAC's cash-stuffed envelopes and follow orders.
If Trump can fix things, then CA will again be A-Ok. That's a big if. The Hispanics who have poured in over the past 25 years need to assimilate (probably half are incapable I hate to say, and that's being optimistic) and the illegals should be run out. It's doable, as the bolsheviks and mensheviks moved 18 million people around the USSR between 1918 and 1923 in order to foment problems between various ethnic groups, keep the population distracted while the folks in charge looted and pillaged and murdered. Same reasons the descendants of the mensheviks etc. (Jacob Javitz, Emanuel Celler, etc.) pushed for massive 3rd world immigration into the US, finally getting it through in 1965 (the Immigration Act of 1965) making 90% of all legal immigration from the third world and only 10% from Europe or Japan, and first world regions. Of course Celler and crew made sure their own, highly privileged and nepotistic group is always listed as "refugees" and receives top treatment over all other ethnic groups wishing to emigrate to the US.
The US needs to shut down all immigration, and then slowly make things fair for everyone, but starting with skilled Europeans and E. Asian immigrants, with Europeans getting the nod for a while as they have been discriminated against by official policy for over 50 years. A peasant from Mexico with nothing, who will likely go on welfare forever in CA, or someone similar from Eritrea, will get preference over a European immigrant who graduated at the top of their medical school class. This is no exaggeration.
If you think the immigration debacle is by chance or accident you are clueless. The cucks can scream and cry racist, but that's because they have no facts to back what their masters claim.
CA is a mess and so goes the rest of the country unless things change radically. You can see the same mess in IL, NY, etc. It's coming to your front door if Soros, Jacob Rothschild, the Rockefellers, Warburgs and others have their way. Sure, it's all "conspiracy theory". If there weren't conspiracies, there wouldn't be laws against them. Ask Bernie Madoff, Nixon, LBJ, Reagan, Obama and others who have turned up in scandals that involved conspiracy. Obama's legacy is littered with things like this, like sending guns to Mexico lol, but the media looks the other way. Wonder why? lol
No money in CA like there used to be. Close the borders. Cut taxes. Remove the non-native freeloaders and their anchor-babies who are in fact NOT citizens under the law (that lie needs to be corrected and the law enforced as written). The 14th Amendment was written to help / protect former slaves, not be used for peasants to hop the border, squat and pop out a golden ticket to eternal gibmedats courtesy of American taxpayers.
TL; DR
Seriously, did you really expect anyone to read all that?