PC Police strike again - Princeton swimming team's season is suspended for emails

rojo wrote:

It's called parody. Comedians often make us very uncomfortable but most of them are actually brilliant.

Most of them are actually god awful. A small minority of them are indeed funny

Blah Blah Blah. wrote:

Curiously to me in all this is that no football teams have had their seasons ended. Guess they're too smart for such shenanigans.

Football teams are actually out practicing and getting better. Football players practice and are together far more than sports like swimming and XC, if they want to talk they do it in person because they have to.

Dennis T Reynolds wrote:

Blah Blah Blah. wrote:

Curiously to me in all this is that no football teams have had their seasons ended. Guess they're too smart for such shenanigans.

Football teams are actually out practicing and getting better. Football players practice and are together far more than sports like swimming and XC, if they want to talk they do it in person because they have to.

I wonder if these teams will ever try to fight back? That is one thing that football is doing well:

I want to point out that these allegations were thrown out by the police. Due process is not considered necessary during many University "investigations," and it looks like athletes are starting to fight back. I am sure the boosters of Minnesota and Washington State won't mind if the Bowl Game is cancelled...

ivy leaguer wrote:

Will universities soon start analyzing the private communications of everyone in the community - not just athletes.

Read the article. These were not "private communications".

It was "content on the University-sponsored men's swimming and diving team listserv". It was a university-sponsored mailing list. If you're going to act like middle school kids, don't use your university's listserv.

Wow that blog has really got me rethinking my rating. I've always thought of myself as an age-graded 9 but in reality I'm probably just 8.5ish.

Of course, fairly or not, men are rated differently than women. We're rated on height, earning potential, athleticism, hair, musculature, empathy - pretty much in that order.

Rating men is a tough nut to crack (no pun intended) because when we are most athletic/full head of hair we are the poorest and then the whole thing inverts as we age.

This whole suspension over rating stuff is stupid - and no, I wouldn't give a rat's ass if my daughter (who is a solid 9.5 btw, she can thank her mom who was as close to a 10 as I've ever seen and now resides in the upper 7s, sorry no age grading seems to be available for women) was included in the rating.

I agree with others that if you're going to suspend the cross country/swim teams then I want more action taken on other men's sports, fraternities, clubs. As a matter of fact, I think these colleges should just proactively suspend them as well because you know they are rating women. Of course women get a pass in this particular case - for obvious reasons.

rojo wrote:

Running turtle wrote:

clever? seriously? if you have a daughter would you want her to be rated like this???

wtf

It's called parody. Comedians often make us very uncomfortable but most of them are actually brilliant. The idea that he'd actually have the guts to do that is what I'm giving him props for.

I was recently judged on my looks in a national publication. I was called a "Texan Hugh Grant." Since it's a compliment, I'll take it.

That is an interesting compliment.

Soon the players will start getting suspended for not swiping right on tinder. Equality for all.

lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY0WxgSXdEE

We'll See wrote:

I want to point out that these allegations were thrown out by the police. Due process is not considered necessary during many University "investigations," and it looks like athletes are starting to fight back. I am sure the boosters of Minnesota and Washington State won't mind if the Bowl Game is cancelled...

Whether or not there was an offense that would be provable in a court of law, the university determined that there was a violation of team rules. We certainly will see, but I don't think the university is going to back down on this one. Perhaps they should call the players' bluff and withdraw scholarships if they don't play. Boosters be damned, since it looks like the backlash that is forming is against the players and coach...

I'm still trying to figure out how the Texas Hugh Grant is a compliment?

What does that mean?

An effete metrosexual in a land of beer bellied, buck toothed, hicks?

Kind of gay looking for a state known mainly for fat guys.

Skinny and wears clean pants?

No Matthew Mcconaughey.

Seriously? This is considered pretty creepy behavior in the real world. I guess I wouldn't expect a bunch of ivy leaguerers on swim team to know much about that. And, oh yeah it isn't private emails you morons, not even close.

One more point, you really think any body besides the swim team is losing sleep over a couple swim meet? HaHaHa, yeah nobody gives a shit about your stupid little sports.

Sam F wrote:

Seriously? This is considered pretty creepy behavior in the real world. I guess I wouldn't expect a bunch of ivy leaguerers on swim team to know much about that. And, oh yeah it isn't private emails you morons, not even close.

I agree 100%. I'm glad they are clamping down in this. These are NOT private conversations. It's not complicated guys.

Junk Master wrote:

I'm still trying to figure out how the Texas Hugh Grant is a compliment?

What does that mean?

An effete metrosexual in a land of beer bellied, buck toothed, hicks?

Kind of gay looking for a state known mainly for fat guys.

Skinny and wears clean pants?

No Matthew Mcconaughey.

It's a savagely backhanded "compliment" to most men, but Rojo is a legend in his own eyes so that's not how he sees it.

FarOutMan wrote:

Curiously to me in all this is that no football teams have had their seasons ended. Guess they're too smart for such shenanigans.

Princeton has suspended, not ended, the swim/dive season.

Chicks do the same thing all the time, except they do it while all going to the restroom together.

You are right ivy league, this is an outrage! Every organization I ever belonged to was completely PC. When I was a white supremacist, they wouldn't let me hang out with my friends from blm. So i got dumped by both organizations! (not to mention beat up but good.)

So I am now forming the ivy freedom league. If you want to join, you are allowed to do whatever you want to do and say whatever you want to say. Anything! But you cannot tell other members what to do because that would be completely wrong.

Thjids seems like this is an issue of privacy and free speech. If not make every e-mail from every administrator public. Athletes are an easy scapegoat until that unseasoned comment from the University President accidently gets forwarded.

Your post is an interesting one. Why are we seeing this only with Ivy League schools?

1) Is it because the Ivy Leaguers are more likely to be judging others at say your average schools? There whole lives they've been trying to be "the best" and they chose the school in part because it's "the best". They take a lot of pride in being the best and this carries over once they are there. A student at random state u doesn't think "I'm the greatest student in the history of the world and so special" so they don't rate people as much?

2) The administrators at these schools are just more uptight than at other schools.

3) Other reason that I can't think of.

all the ivy league schools need to get hillary and huma to come in as guest lecturers (ha ha and not charge 200,000) to teach the kiddies how not to send anything on email except the most innocuous and pleasant comments; no such thing as private in the digital age, but of course the kiddies today want everything to be seen by everyone, and therein lies the rub