Why is Christmas no longer allowed to be Christmas?

Runningart2004 wrote:

Christmas was Christianity's way of recruiting pagans to their religion. Same as Easter. Both combine a pagan seasonal festival with an important religious event. Jesus wasn't born in December.

Alan

Nice to see that someone else has class and signs their name at the bottom!

-Uncico Coleman 😘

Runningart2004 wrote:

Christmas was Christianity's way of recruiting pagans to their religion. Same as Easter. Both combine a pagan seasonal festival with an important religious event. Jesus wasn't born in December.

Alan

Everybody knows that.

Tell me something I don't know.

Runningart2004 wrote:

Christmas was Christianity's way of recruiting pagans to their religion. Same as Easter. Both combine a pagan seasonal festival with an important religious event. Jesus wasn't born in December.

Alan

Also, not all thoroughbreds were born on Jan 1. So?

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

Here's why wrote:

It's because liberals will have their feelings hurt... Why else?

Ok, let's put up posters with Muslim-related content in every public school in Texas during Ramadan and then spend time talking about fasting during Ramadan in the same public schools.

No problem, right?

Religion is not welcome in public infrastructure for a reason. Separation of church and State contributes to the stability of a nation.

You practice and celebrate your religion on your time. I mean that. Send your kids to private schools with religious posters on the wall. That's fine.

Don't regulate my personal life. I like my freedom just fine.

If you lived in an Islam state would you be offended by their religious Holliday?

Are people offended by Santa and Christmas Trees and the two week school vacation too? If it was really a separation of church and state we would work through and schools would not have a Christmas (now called Winter) break.

uwwu wrote:

Wise One wrote:

Did Jesus Christ . . . have an obese Santa with magical powers . . . ?

Not sure about the Santa thing, but I know there was an obese guy at the Nativity--you know, Round John Virgin.

WINNER!

B. Ummer wrote:f you lived in an Islam state would you be offended by their religious Holliday?

I don't want to live in a theocracy, Islamic or otherwise. I believe America is better than that.

If it was really a separation of church and state we would work through and schools would not have a Christmas (now called Winter) break.

The concepts of holiday and vacation don't depend on the presence of a significant religious date. However, if you're going to have a winter holiday, you might as well have it coincide with an extremely popular festival, even if that festival has a religious origin.

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

Practice and enjoy your religion. Don't mix it with government.

Obama disagrees. Here is Obama celebrating Hanukkah at the White House:

The Number Why wrote:

Christians are free to say religious things about Christmas. So are non-Christians.

Why are you so stupid?

Why are you so stupid? I don't think that teachers in public institutions should post religious stuff ever, however, quite apart from that, you are just wrong. People are very touchy and sensitive about saying "merry Christmas" and especially anything that is religious in tone. Now a days it has to be very neutral "happy holidays" etc.. especially sending out cards.

I don't like religions, but, it really does seem that Christians have to be careful these days with who and how they phrase their Christmas greetings and that their holiday has been hijacked into a weird omnibus "holiday". There really is no equivalent religion's celebration that has had the same thing happen.

D-Nice wrote:

Christmas has been "evolved" for quite some times. It's already been allowed to be something far from a religious holiday for decades. There's essentially two Christmases - the secular - decorations, presents, trees, sales, consumerism, etc., and the religious. Many people celebrate a combination of the two; some celebrate only the secular; some celebrate only the religious. It's "birth of Christ" underpinnings notwithstanding, I don't know many people who expect Christmas to stay solely in the religious sphere - even those who are very religious.

You should still be able to say happy Christmas & not happy holidays especially if as you say it's already accepted that Christmas has secular and Christian meaning.

Always amazes me that Americans have more interest in Thanksgiving which beyond reminding people of disgraceful and barbaric treatment of native Americans has no real meaning.

By your definition Thanksgiving should be down graded. Who are you giving thanks to?

Here's why wrote:

It's because liberals will have their feelings hurt... Why else?

Read the title of this thread and tell me who has their feelings hurt. Time to toughen up Opie, we're not in Mayberry anymore.

This is a toxic thread, filled predominantly with loud and ignorant people, but your message was enjoyable to read, and I am disappointed (but unsurprised) that it has gone mostly unnoticed. Thanks for posting it.

if your faith is shaken by a poster, the words people use, or seasonal decorations, then the depth of your faith is the problem, not the changes around you.

Because it's a stolen holiday. It's Yule, or midwinter, not the imaginary birthday of the alleged jesus.

If there ever were a jesus, his fanatic followers would have started a tradition of marking the day every year and never forgotten it, instead of making shit up more than a thousand years later.

Bad Wigins wrote:

Because it's a stolen holiday. It's Yule, or midwinter, not the imaginary birthday of the alleged jesus.

If there ever were a jesus, his fanatic followers would have started a tradition of marking the day every year and never forgotten it, instead of making shit up more than a thousand years later.

This is a revisionist history of a revisionist history.

Because when the government or Walmart uses the Lord's name to turn a profit or assuage the religious, it is against Christian principles.

Look-- the one time Jesus lost his temper was with the money changers in the temple-- trying to abuse religion for profit.

Our government and our corporations should not be abusing religion.

If people would stop believing in fairy tales then none of this would be an issue.

Where is Ramadan or kwanza under the same restrictions?

They're not.

A war on Christmas?!?!?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI_Oe-jtgdI

Serious Answer wrote:

...I need to point out a common misconception: "Separation of Church and State" is not part of the language of the First Amendment. The actual language has come to mean something in addition to its original intent, for better or worse.

Separation of church and state is not part of the language of the First Amendment--true enough--but that was indeed the intent:

"The 'establishment of religion' clause of the First Amendment means at least this: Neither a state nor the Federal Government . . . can pass laws which aid one religion, aid all religions or prefer one religion over another. . . . No tax in any amount, large or small, can be levied to support any religious activities or institutions, whatever they may be called, or whatever form they may adopt to teach or practice religion. . . . In the words of Jefferson, the clause against establishment of religion by law was intended to erect 'a wall of separation between Church and State.'" SCOTUS (9-0), Everson v. Board of Education, 330 U.S. 1, 15-16 (1947). [All emphases mine.]