Female 2:42 marathon, 20-30mpw

fred wrote:

24 Nov 2016 3 35:56 RD 10 km Cincinnati OH/USA Thanksgiving Day

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05 Nov 2016 2 2:40:34 RD Marathon Indianapolis IN/USA Indianapolis Monumental $750

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16 Oct 2016 1 2:42:25 RD Marathon Columbus OH/USA Nationwide Children's Hospital Columbus $6,000

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01 May 2016 1 2:55:46 RD Marathon Cincinnati OH/USA Cincinnati Flying Pig

Oh, shaved another 2:00 off. Yea, guess it will be interesting to see if she sticks with it and decides to run the trials

ezby wrote:

ummm... Ever heard of Jordan Hasay?

Irrelevant. She's never even run a marathon, let alone a half marathon.

That is an excellent story. Quite a metamorphosis.

Sorry for vagueness just wasn't trying to hi-jack thread and typing on my phone. To me the times and training all feel very similar. I am sure someone can run fast on low mileage if there lean and do some solid quality.

She obviously must have some ability and looks lean.

I Ran 2:36:00, 2:33:06, 2:28:52. All off low mileage 30-50mpw. Max. *The times were all pretty similar if you take in to count weather, courses, strategy.

I know 2:36 and 2:28:52 are not similar, but I don't think the 2:28:52 represents a superior fitness just a superior day/course/weather/confidence. All 3 efforts were achieved with similar low volume about 4-8 hours it is certainly doable. For me it's more about leanness than volume.

derauqsdm wrote:

Not sure if this was sarcasm or not, but 4th year med students have essentially ZERO workload. So definitely possible she is doing other running then posted because she has loads of time.

I agree. I laughed out loud when the earlier poster mentioned the crushing workload of 4th year. It's more like a (nearly) never ending summer.

A few interesting takes from the video:

1) She did her training during third year of medical school, which actually does suck generally. So props to her. She has a ton of potential.

2) She attends an osteopathic school and wants to do Emergency Medicine; my understanding (I am a few years older than she is, training wise) is that EM applicants are doing more away rotations during fourth year. So she actually may have had a few months of "test run" rotations at places she is considering for residency. Or not...

3) Whatever the case, she's done with those rotations (or will be shortly) now. Best of luck to her with training as the next 6 months of her schooling will be absolutely perfect for training.

I still can't believe 4th year was my second most expensive year of medical school, tuition wise...I still haven't figured out what classes they charged me for...

EM is generally very training-friendly. High burnout rates over the long term, though, which is more a symptom of our health care system than anything else.

PrZ wrote:

Irrelevant. She's never even run a marathon, let alone a half marathon.

This is an incorrect use of this phrase.

10 miles a 52:49 U.S. champs, extrapolate to 13.1

titaniumbolt wrote:

derauqsdm wrote:

Not sure if this was sarcasm or not, but 4th year med students have essentially ZERO workload. So definitely possible she is doing other running then posted because she has loads of time.

I agree. I laughed out loud when the earlier poster mentioned the crushing workload of 4th year. It's more like a (nearly) never ending summer.

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Again, I was referring to what's to come with residency. Anyone in medical school is generally (but not always) going to take training seriously (no need to cite the likes of Bob Kempainen, Anthony Sandoval, Christine Clark- exceptions and not the rule).

LM wrote:

call a spade. wrote:

Um, do you really think she's posting ALL of her training on Strava? No way. Last year med school student. Game over.

This is an interesting question.

She is/was posting pretty consistently most days. Unless she is going out and running workouts at a different time and not posting them (while under a heavy med 4th year med student rotation).

It would also mean that she is doing literally nothing recovery oriented, unless she also does secret recovery runs, as there is literally nothing on her strava over 7:00 pace.

^ I was referring to this post, not yours (in response to spade).

I knwo a girl who ran a 2:40 marathon off of around that mileage she peaked at 2:29 and was often injured.

Looking at her strava, I actually now believe that is all her training, relentless low-volume MP+40s. I also feel like she is a world-class talent, like Deena Drossin level. Her training is ridiculously minimal and simplistic, and she is about to run in the 2:30's.

Those 20 milers sub 6:30 pace don't hurt either.

None of her marathons are on strava so I wouldn't doubt a few other runs weren't there either. Makes no difference though. The only thing that matters is what the clock reads when you are done with the race.

maybe she does some training on a treadmill or something. Only strava hogs bother logging treadmill runs since they don't count with recorded mileage on strava and there would be no point as anyone could easily lie. Honestly who cares about strava anyways. Talent isn't fair. Some people can break 4 and run less than 100 mpw, some women can run the ot standard on 40 mpw or less. Some men will take 150 miles a week to break 3, just the way life is.

Talent isn't fair--such a true statement.

She's probably going to be rich as hell as a doc, and she has sub-2:40 talent to boot on low mileage (almost as low as 10k/13.1 training programs). Let alone the 26.2.

The one poster was right--there are guys who will struggle to run 2:50 on 100 mpw but this girl will run 2:40 on nothing. That said, she's an outlier.