Female 2:42 marathon, 20-30mpw

Um, do you really think she's posting ALL of her training on Strava? No way. Last year med school student. Game over.

call a spade. wrote:

Um, do you really think she's posting ALL of her training on Strava? No way. Last year med school student. Game over.

This is an interesting question.

She is/was posting pretty consistently most days. Unless she is going out and running workouts at a different time and not posting them (while under a heavy med 4th year med student rotation).

It would also mean that she is doing literally nothing recovery oriented, unless she also does secret recovery runs, as there is literally nothing on her strava over 7:00 pace.

Possible ...lean and talented enough. Still impressive.

If the quality days are hard enough and athlete is lean it's doable. I did low/mid 2:30 on 30-40 miles per week and cross training. Higher 2:36 on about 35mpw no serious cross trannng ... and sub 2:30 on no cross training and 60mpw. So slight gains for double the miles but not a ton...3-4 minutes... I think I could have run all 3 efforts around the same pace if on the same course with same weather.

I think my times are more a functionin of weight. My motor seems pretty static if I do the training. I can increase pace by dropping a few kilos easier Than.... i can from more or harder running. Harder and more ...I normally get ... which makes me slower....less running keeps me running which normally gets me faster. Lighter for me is faster than doing more miles.

What is your running background? HS, college runner?

Mid 2:30s. I'd be curios as to what some of your training was at those various levels, and how old you were when you ran them....THX

What did your weeks look like? I ran a 1:14 half on 30-35 mpw (no x-training), but could only hit 2:48 in the full on 35-40 mpw (+ minimal x-training) the next year. Would be curious to know how you were using your miles when you hit those times.

Not sure if this was sarcasm or not, but 4th year med students have essentially ZERO workload. So definitely possible she is doing other running then posted because she has loads of time.

derauqsdm wrote:

Not sure if this was sarcasm or not, but 4th year med students have essentially ZERO workload. So definitely possible she is doing other running then posted because she has loads of time.

No, point being that once she hits residency she's toast. She's also only showing a few runs every week-- she's definitely not posting all of her training.

Yeah well what's a 2:30 marathon worth?

And what's a week as a doctor in emergency worth?

Looks like she has some talent, and mileage would smooth out her form. She could probably train a lot faster.

24 Nov 2016 3 35:56 RD 10 km Cincinnati OH/USA Thanksgiving Day

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05 Nov 2016 2 2:40:34 RD Marathon Indianapolis IN/USA Indianapolis Monumental $750

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16 Oct 2016 1 2:42:25 RD Marathon Columbus OH/USA Nationwide Children's Hospital Columbus $6,000

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01 May 2016 1 2:55:46 RD Marathon Cincinnati OH/USA Cincinnati Flying Pig

Has she done any training at sub 6 pace yet? 2:40 is 6:06 a mile.

By "low/mid 2:30 on 30-40 miles per week", do you mean you ran ~2:30:05 at least one time and ~2:30:30 at least one time, on this training volume?

What kind of person writes this way? Why not just say, "I ran 2:30 off of 30-40 mpw." Not so hard is it Eugene?

Kevin Higdon ran a 2:18 in 1983 on 70 mpw. A low-mileage plan for that era and for that level of marathon. I don't think he consistently trained at a higher volume either. I just remember an article in The Runner way back then that outlined his training. He wanted to qualify for the OTM and I think could only run once per day, for some reason.

Wow that is impressive. Makes me feel REAL slow lol wonder if she has any plans to pursue the marathon more seriously. Would be fun to watch her progression! But yes, emergency medicine is going to make her way more money.

fred wrote:

Has she done any training at sub 6 pace yet? 2:40 is 6:06 a mile.

Not that strava shows, although it looks like she has only been using that for a few months. From that video she sure didn't make it sound like she has been doing anything super intensive.

She took 10:00 off her PR in 6 months, hard to think she couldn't get into at least the lower 2:30's with some more focused training I would think.

What the idiots on LR fail to understand is that you reach about 90% of your potential with 60% workload. It´s those last 10% that are so very difficult to reach.

Cheezes, 2:42, 2:40, sub-36 all in six weeks off low mileage. That is some running.

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What the idiots on LR fail to understand is that you reach about 90% of your potential with 60% workload. It´s those last 10% that are so very difficult to reach.

Id mostly agree. But there is a time component too in my opinion. That 60% workload over 4 years might get you to 90% potential. But over say, 1 year, probably not as much.

Lots of people running for a year with some talent doing 40mpw week might get into the 18s or 19s, but have the potential to work down to low 15s or something. Give them three years of that and they can probably run 16 something. Then to get down to the lower 15s they would really have to get serious

ummm... Ever heard of Jordan Hasay?

I don't know her HS or college running history. Obviously she has both talent and drive. Her potential is really a matter of priorities.

Fourth year of med school is generally easy. Her ability to put in miles during residency will vary depending upon her rotations. But, after residency, Emergency Medicine is a great field for training for endurance sports