Amherst Cross Country Team Suspended Following Email Chain

Are they still called the Lord Jeffs? Greatest nickname in college athletics.

I'm kind of on the fence about this. Thinking back to college there was a lot of slinging of abusive language. The only thing is that it wasn't meant to be abusive. I'm not saying it was justified, or even entirely harmless, but maybe that the people participating were good kids who weren't taught this boundary. It goes without saying that college kids are really dumb and immature. God, if the internet was a platform back then so everything we said was written down and saved I'm sure I would cringe reading it now.

Despite saying a lot of dumb stuff, who are these kids? What do their action say?

Have they ever been on the podium?

I wonder what is going to happen when the intellectual class who sits in judgement of these young men are presented with the nasty things they've said about Trump supporters, conservatives, Tea Partiers, uneducated white men, Southern Christians?

Will they suspend themselves?

rasheed wallace wrote:

Have they ever been on the podium?

Suspended for the season? Thought the cross season was already over for them.

Our new president does the same thing so it's fine

Nothing wrong with this at all. Another classic example of people finding something to whine about.

Honestly, whose cross team didnt do anything like this or at least similar? You are dealing with college boys here, who run cross country, gotta make your lives exciting somehow. We never used emails, but if you could have seen our groupme messages, we probably would be in a similar situation.

People are just overreacting and being soft. Most cross teams do this whether anyone wants to admit it or not. It's ok to joke about because most people know that you obviously don't treat people that way in real life. People need to chill.

Who Didnt wrote:

Honestly, whose cross team didnt do anything like this or at least similar? You are dealing with college boys here, who run cross country, gotta make your lives exciting somehow. We never used emails, but if you could have seen our groupme messages, we probably would be in a similar situation.

I was thinking the exact same thing. If someone had recorded just a couple of minutes of the stuff we would say during a long run then we would have easily been suspended.

The editorial also mentions the cross country team isn't a known hotbed of misogyny and racism. I guess they're unfamiliar with Letsrun or most college aged runners in general

Member when this country had free speech? I 'member. Saying some inappropriate stuff should not be grounds for punishment if no one actually acted on any of it. Yeah its probably a little messed up to be an incoming freshman and getting these emails in the summer but nothing that they said or did actually hurt anyone. At worst some one felt uncomfortable, but I'm sure Amherst has plenty of safe spaces for those people.

MAGA wrote:

Already happened with the Harvard XC team.

Si.

ofkfk wrote:

A'suh Dude wrote:

No one asked for your political opinion, bud. Why don't you just read the article and find out?

It wasn't a political opinion. Because I don't want to risk wasting time on something that isn't actually misogyny.

"I'm not going to put in the effort to read it because I'm going to assume with no insight that it's not worth reading and then publicly state the claim that it's not worth reading."

I think the majority of teams say stuff like this on long runs, in the locker room, ect. I know my team did in college, but it was all in good fun and we would just be making fun of each other, and there wasn't a paper trail of it. For some reason as soon as it's in writing, it changes it in people's eyes. I'm sure these guys were probably just joking around, but if you're dumb enough to leave a paper trail of all the bad things you say, then you deserve a punishment if it gets out. Not to make light of the situation, because the things being said are bad. I wonder how often things like this happen on girls teams?

blame the Russians for hacking these emails.

Just because your team did this doesn't mean every team automatically does. Have some accountability.

We Didnt wrote:

Just because your team did this doesn't mean every team automatically does. Have some accountability.

What did you do for fun?

Who Didnt wrote:

We Didnt wrote:

Just because your team did this doesn't mean every team automatically does. Have some accountability.

What did you do for fun?

Get a life and grow up.

A few teammates and I (not the whole team) had a thing where we ranked the women's team by attractiveness but this situation is much worse than anything we did. We didn't get much more vulgar than "she has nice tits/a nice ass" and didn't do an in-depth examination of their sexual history.

We also kept things on pen & paper and were careful to secure the "evidence".

Plus someone on the women's team told us that they did the same (at least, the ranking part) with the men's team. So all was well I suppose.

That's not fun wrote:

Who Didnt wrote:

What did you do for fun?

Get a life and grow up.

It was a genuine question, Im curious as to what other runners did for fun in college