The main question is did he set off in flats for a race or in trainers. Because if he set off in flats you can't really say it was a spur of the moment decision.
The main question is did he set off in flats for a race or in trainers. Because if he set off in flats you can't really say it was a spur of the moment decision.
The women were given a 27 seconds head start on the men ...
ukathleticcoach wrote:
Neither his recent mile or marathon are impressive.
...a 2:27 off of no taper, done "as a lark" isn't impressive?
Wow, you're awesome.
Would love to get as awesome as you someday.
King Awesome.
ofkfk wrote:
Except that is NOT by definition "impressive" nor is it a statistical term. Perhaps you should consider not making such comments until you learn what a dictionary and statistics are.
Furthermore, being slower than someone does not mean you have to be impressed with their times. The truth is that both of those times are not good for a world class male runner.
The guy has ran 3:36 for 1500m. Stop being a douche acting like this guy isn't a legit runner.
ukathleticcoach wrote:
Neither his recent mile or marathon are impressive.
Typical LetsRun response.
Serious Answer wrote:
ukathleticcoach wrote:Neither his recent mile or marathon are impressive.
I pity your athletes.
I pity your coach.
What did Quentin Cassidy run on his first marathon? 2:30? he got lost and cried the end?
Alan Webb's Triceps wrote:
ukathleticcoach wrote:Neither his recent mile or marathon are impressive.
Typical LetsRun response.
Come on. A 4:10 mile is not impressive for a 3:36 runner.
The marathon is ok but he definitely didn't just run it as a steady run. I'd expect most 3:36 runners to be able to break 2:30.
You've been roasted this entire thread. Love it.
I am reminded of an exchange between former professional golfer Andy North and Chris Berman of ESPN when doing something on sports center about the US Open which I believe was at Pinehurst that year. A Japanese golfer had flown the previous day from Tokyo to North Carolina, to tee of at 7:00 am and shot an 83. Andy North : "can you imagine flying a entire day to tee off at 7 and shoot an 83 at Pinehurst. What a terrible experience." Chris Berman "I know many people who would pay huge sums of money to do just that. "It's all a matter of perspective.
RIdiculousCoach wrote:
ukathleticcoach wrote:Neither his recent mile or marathon are impressive.
Hey "coach", you realize a 4:10 mile and 2:27 marathon, especially within 2 days hours (or at all for that matter) is better than 99.9999% of the World. That is by definition "impressive". Learn statistics, and respect and don't even consider making such comments unless you could do the same.
ukathleticcoach wrote:
Serious Answer wrote:I pity your athletes.
I pity your coach.
You're filled with too much hate. Why so much hate?
Hamish was planning on running a long run when he started. He finished in 2:27:21, which is like 5:36 or 5:37 pace per mile I think. I'm relatively new to running, but it really got me thinking: is a long run at 5:36 to 5:37 pace truly helpful, even to a guy at his level?
long run question wrote:
Hamish was planning on running a long run when he started. He finished in 2:27:21, which is like 5:36 or 5:37 pace per mile I think. I'm relatively new to running, but it really got me thinking: is a long run at 5:36 to 5:37 pace truly helpful, even to a guy at his level?
Why would you think it would NOT be helpful?
We will designate waves based on your predicted finish time, so you can go as fast or as slow as you want!
Race Start / Bib Colors Predicted Finish Time Start Time
Wave 1 – Yellow Sub 6 – 7:59 min 7:00 AM
Wave 2 – Green 8 – 9:59 min 7:03 AM
Wave 3 – Blue 10 – 11:59 min 7:06 AM
Wave 4 – Red 12 – 14:59 min 7:09 AM
Wave 5 – Purple 15 min & above 7:12 AM
Final Race (invited runners) – White Elite Wahine/Kane Challenge 7:30 AM
Because ^THIS — start whenever, so started before the elites and finished with them. Most likely walkers.
asking the wrong questions wrote:
I think the more interesting part of this story is how Nicole Sifuentes, Shannon Osika, and Dominique Scott managed to substantially dip under the mile world record with nobody noticing...
HRE wrote:
long run question wrote:Hamish was planning on running a long run when he started. He finished in 2:27:21, which is like 5:36 or 5:37 pace per mile I think. I'm relatively new to running, but it really got me thinking: is a long run at 5:36 to 5:37 pace truly helpful, even to a guy at his level?
Why would you think it would NOT be helpful?
When I wrote "truly helpful," I should have written "ideal."
My concept of the long run is that it should be at easy pace. I was expecting this to be 6:xx. However, your comment prompted me to look at Jack Daniels' calculator. For Hamish's 1500 pr, "easy" training would be 5:41 to 6:00 pace according to that calculator. So I guess 5:37 pace isn't too far off.
Almost nothing is ideal in terms of training pace and really in terms of pretty much everything if we want to get philosophical. But people like Daniels because they fixate on finding ideal paces and Daniels suggests that there are. That fine to an extent but becomes counterproductive when you put some table ahead of everything else and there was a time when we'd drop the hammer on long runs and see what we were made of. It generally worked out pretty well.
Carson has a coach who, unlike JD, coached an Olympic gold medalist and world record holder. If Arch Jelley was OK with Carson's race I'd defer to him. And remember, Carson was racing even if only casually. He'd planned to drop out around 20 miles or so but then decided he wanted a finisher's t-shirt. You need a little adventurousness and spontaneity in your life and your sport.