He looks healthy now, not like some anorexic.
He looks healthy now, not like some anorexic.
More roydz
I would guess about 10-15% based on other pics.
I went from 143 @ 8% to 170 @ 11% at 5'6" when I started lifting like crazy about 9 years ago. Noob gains. Crazy stuff can happen that first year of lifting hard. You could gain 20+ pounds of muscle in that first year and not gain another 20 in 10 years.
Alan
cover it up wrote:
That thickness around the middle screams body fat, not Roydz.
What thickness around the middle , idiot ?
musclemilk doughboy...... wrote:
cover it up wrote:That thickness around the middle screams body fat, not Roydz.
EXACTLY
He weighed 127 when he retired in January. Probably around 5% body fat so lets say 6 lbs of body fat. He has gained 43 lbs. I seriously doubt more than 15 lbs of gained muscle. That leaves 28 lbs of FAT he has put on over the last 10 months. Add that to the 6 he had before and he now has 34 lbs of fat out of 170 for 20% bodyfat.
Lol I like how you just made up some numbers in your head, based on your "serious doubts", and then concluded his exact body composition based on your expert analysis. Totally par for the course for this message board, though.
Seriously though, I wish someone would forward Jamin's email to Ryan so he could share his bodybuilding and supplement program with the Jamster who could use some self confidence and muscle.
Runningart2004 wrote:
I would guess about 10-15% based on other pics.
I went from 143 @ 8% to 170 @ 11% at 5'6" when I started lifting like crazy about 9 years ago. Noob gains. Crazy stuff can happen that first year of lifting hard. You could gain 20+ pounds of muscle in that first year and not gain another 20 in 10 years.
Alan
This guy knows what he's talking about. I was 140-145lbs in college at 5'8 with a similar body fat. I wasn't fast - about 15:15 5k on the track.
Quit track mid sophomore year. Started lifting - by the end of college, I weighed about 185lbs with slightly more body fat
Newb gains come pretty easy and gains after than aren't that difficult as long as you consistently get stronger at: bench press, squats, dead lifts, pull ups, and dips. I'm willing to bet a lot of you guys have similar potential if you dedicated the same amount of effort to weight lifting as you do for running.
Ryan Hall appears to have an average weightlifting progression, assuming he is dedicated a good amount of effort to the weight room.
John Clendon wrote:
Royyyyy wrote:And yet a former professional runner with diagnosed low T levels for years bulks that much in months in his home gym...
Yep, seems reasonable.
You have zero idea how lifting and running work or work against testosterone. I know you don't. Based on your post, I am positive you don't.
what does low T levels have to do with eating more food? lmao.
He's more than 10 % bodyfat in that selfie for sure.
10% is full six pack, not 3 pack.
Plus, his chest looks awfully fatty.
That said, he does look healthier!
Spam noticer wrote:
musclemilk doughboy...... wrote:EXACTLY
He weighed 127 when he retired in January. Probably around 5% body fat so lets say 6 lbs of body fat. He has gained 43 lbs. I seriously doubt more than 15 lbs of gained muscle. That leaves 28 lbs of FAT he has put on over the last 10 months. Add that to the 6 he had before and he now has 34 lbs of fat out of 170 for 20% bodyfat.
Lol I like how you just made up some numbers in your head, based on your "serious doubts", and then concluded his exact body composition based on your expert analysis. Totally par for the course for this message board, though.
The only "made up" number is how much muscle he actually gained. Are you saying the whole 43 lbs he has gained is all muscle?
Even Alan said he gained just over 20 lbs of muscle when he was a noob.
Even if he gained 25 lbs of muscle, he still put on 18 lbs of fat.
don't be musclefat.... wrote:
Spam noticer wrote:Lol I like how you just made up some numbers in your head, based on your "serious doubts", and then concluded his exact body composition based on your expert analysis. Totally par for the course for this message board, though.
The only "made up" number is how much muscle he actually gained. Are you saying the whole 43 lbs he has gained is all muscle?
Even Alan said he gained just over 20 lbs of muscle when he was a noob.
Even if he gained 25 lbs of muscle, he still put on 18 lbs of fat.
There were some side effects from drinking a lot of MUSCLE MILK:
The samples of Muscle Milk Chocolate powder we tested contained all four heavy metals, and levels of three metals in the product were among the highest of all in our tests. Average cadmium levels of 5.6 µg in three daily servings slightly exceeded the USP limit of 5 µg per day, and the average lead level of 13.5 µg also topped the USP limit of 10 µg per day. The average arsenic level of 12.2 µg was approaching the USP limit of 15 µg per day, and the average for mercury was 0.7 µg, well below the USP's 15 µg-per-day limit. Three daily servings of Muscle Milk Vanilla Crème contained 12.2 µg of lead, exceeding lead limits, and 11.2 µg of arsenic. A fourth product, Muscle Milk Nutritional Shake Chocolate (liquid), provided an average of 14.3 µg of arsenic per day from three servings, approaching the proposed USP limit.
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/2012/04/protein-drinks/index.htmOne side effect is that Ryan has brain damage from the high levels of lead, cadmium and arsenic in his MUSCLE MILK. He got beat by a guy in the 50-54 division at the XTERRA race when Ryan got lost in the woods because he now has toxic metals in his brain.
In conclusion:
Ryan needs to switch his protein drink sponsor to a different company.
Junk Master wrote:
He's more than 10 % bodyfat in that selfie for sure.
10% is full six pack, not 3 pack.
Plus, his chest looks awfully fatty.
Oh baby Muhammad , you are a filthy smelling douche .
don't be musclefat.... wrote:
Spam noticer wrote:Lol I like how you just made up some numbers in your head, based on your "serious doubts", and then concluded his exact body composition based on your expert analysis. Totally par for the course for this message board, though.
The only "made up" number is how much muscle he actually gained. Are you saying the whole 43 lbs he has gained is all muscle?
Even Alan said he gained just over 20 lbs of muscle when he was a noob.
Even if he gained 25 lbs of muscle, he still put on 18 lbs of fat.
Also when you gain weight, when you gain muscle, you will always gain fat. The exception to this is someone who is very overweight who is a new lifter.
Alan
Takes about 3 years 6/7 days a week to gain 6lbs muscle takes about 6 weeks on growth hormones ?? why not take it for profesional running if you would take it for leisure training the health risks are the same are they not. Come on Ryan god says tell the truth or be a hypocrite for your whole life ahead of you ??
So I totally understand where he is coming from. In high school there was this skinny kids who was slow with a lot of endurance. In middle school he was a Phenom. But levelled out around 10th grade. So he started lifting because he could actually see the progress. He was a slow speed guy. After lifting he became an 800m guy and was actually pretty damn good. Sometimes people need to move on with something new and/or reinvent themselves.
admittedly i only got through half of the posts on this thread so someone may have already thrown this out there but here it is:
ryan hall is what people would refer to as a "high responder to training." I am currently reading the book, "the sports gene," and its brought up in there. pretty much it talks about how some people will respond better to training then others. this is something we all know intuitively but its still interesting to see it written down. ryan hall is obviously extremely "talented," and reaching the level he did in running indicates that he responded extremely well to training for running. now that he has stopped and moved to weightlifting, it appears he is a high responder to weight training as well. which makes sense. i think i saw somewhere he benched 250 lbs which is great for someone only lifting for a year and at his weight so he clearly has talent for this type of training as well.
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