Emma Coburn dropping Wetmore, will be coached by fiance

Ask Jeremy Wariner about the wisdom of doing this.

Joe Bosshard coached Wariner?

Bosshard is a pretty fast guy in his own right. I'd give him a chance before saying this is a terrible choice. It seems strange to leave a coach who just got you to a bronze medal, but let's see how it plays.

coach here wrote:

reed wrote:

As for the husband/wife conflict, Kim Conley is married to her coach and still improves every year.

But Kim Conley's husband is, you know, an actual...coach!

This is what's wrong with our sport. In running, it seems so simple (but it's not). So everyone thinks they can do it. "I'll just copy the workouts!" They think.

Coburn is on the top of her game, an Olympic medalist. She's the best steepler we've ever had.

Could you imagine this in any other sport?

Michael Jordan saying he'd have his wife coach the team and not Phil Jackson?

Perhaps TOm Brady's wife Giselle instead of Bill Bellichek.

Too extreme?

It would be like Tom Brady in his prime saying No to Bill, and instead bringing in the former college quarterback at Colorado with zero coaching experience to coach him.

Only in running....

Running IS much simpler to coach than any sport I can think of.

Emma and Joe met back in high school. Joe was originally from Wisconsin but transferred to some school in Crested Butte, CO where Emma grew up.

No one is saying he isn't a fast runner but what does that have to do with his experience and ability to coach a professional female steeplechase runner?

The Patriarchy. Now that they are engaged he doesn't want his woman being told what to do by other men.

Not rocket scientry folks.

It's one of these two. Who dumped who?

Isn't there a reason why Jenny S doens't have an agent (Does Coburn have one?). You can't give 15% to your agent and 15% to your coach.

2) Or Heather B and Wetmore don't want to deal with the drama associated of coaching a needy attention-starved athleted like Coburn - posing nude, etc. Perhaps they are busy professionals and don't have time.

jjjjjjj wrote:

Ask Jeremy Wariner about the wisdom of doing this.

Look.While I think Wetmore is a genius. I will point out that a) Wariner never did anything after he returned to clyde hart and b) Jenny Simpson won a world title under Juli Benson.

How many times do I have to say, the coach is the jockey/caddy.

rojo wrote:How many times do I have to say, the coach is the jockey/caddy.

Well, I suppose if you said it, it must be solid gold.

sort of guessing here wrote:

It's one of these two. Who dumped who?

Isn't there a reason why Jenny S doens't have an agent (Does Coburn have one?). You can't give 15% to your agent and 15% to your coach.

2) Or Heather B and Wetmore don't want to deal with the drama associated of coaching a needy attention-starved athleted like Coburn - posing nude, etc. Perhaps they are busy professionals and don't have time.

Coburn is self managed as well. 115,000 instagram followers tells me she's doing okay at branding herself without one as well.

There doesn't always have to be a particular reason to leave a coach. Sometimes you just need/want to try something different and if she wants another big breakthrough that might be what she has to do. Sally Pearson left her coach since she was a kid for that reason after she won London

She dropped an agent and their 20% fee. Didn't need him.

She dropped Wetmore and his 10% fee. Doesn't need him.

With taxes also asking for 30% for being self-employed, it is time to go.

And Mark has helped Emma for sure, but don't underestimate how much Emma helps him as well. Aside from probably some real money, there is great notoriety which helps in collegiate recruiting too.

I will be even more interested to see what access to training partners and CU facilities. Wetmore is known to be very closed off to outside athletes.

Was Jenny Simpson married or even related to Juli Benson? And wasn't Benson her coach when she didn't even make the 1500 Olympic finals in London much less medal. I'm so confused. I do like the Yoko Ono reference tho. Most of the other examples (Goucher, Wariner, Pearson) were athletes on the downhill slides at the end of their careers and weren't going to family member with no experience vs another pro coach.

I don't think many of you realize how hands off Wetmore is with this athletes (including collegiate). He isn't by her side like someone at that level would like.

He writes workouts and will be there to watch them but that's the extent. I'm sure it's not worth what she's paying him. To hold himself accountable he should absolutely be paid. I think there is a gap is expectation.

Wariner was damaged goods the second time around with Hart- testimony to bad coaching ruining an athlete. Simpson's WC title was sandwiched between a season of injury and a failure to make the Oly final, neither of which have happened under Wetmore.Gifted coaches demonstrate repeatability with their successes.Your "caddy or jockey" label simply refers to mediocre coaching (which is all too common), not truly gifted coaching.

rojo wrote:

jjjjjjj wrote:

Ask Jeremy Wariner about the wisdom of doing this.

Look.While I think Wetmore is a genius. I will point out that a) Wariner never did anything after he returned to clyde hart and b) Jenny Simpson won a world title under Juli Benson.

How many times do I have to say, the coach is the jockey/caddy.

rojo wrote:

jjjjjjj wrote:

Ask Jeremy Wariner about the wisdom of doing this.

Look.While I think Wetmore is a genius. I will point out that a) Wariner never did anything after he returned to clyde hart and b) Jenny Simpson won a world title under Juli Benson.

How many times do I have to say, the coach is the jockey/caddy.

That's pretty rich after all that JK BS you spewed for years .

For the record though a jockey makes a huge difference.

It's nothing like any of those... first off, Michael Jordan and Tom Brady are/were part of teams and don't have the ability to change around coaching situation.

Second, running is a completely different animal than a sport that requires technical ability. If he has any knowledge of how to properly train an athlete, which it is likely that he does, than that is way different than Lebron James wife trying to teach him how to hit a layup.

And lastly, who the f**k are you to even question her coaching situation with Wetmore? There's a chance that there are huge conflicts there, among other situations. So if she wants to change coaches, then let her. She knows what's best for her, not some dumba$$ on letsrun who's probably ran a 5:00 mile in high school.

It's nothing like any of those... first off, Michael Jordan and Tom Brady are/were part of teams and don't have the ability to change around coaching situation.

Second, running is a completely different animal than a sport that requires technical ability. If he has any knowledge of how to properly train an athlete, which it is likely that he does, than that is way different than Lebron James wife trying to teach him how to hit a layup.

And lastly, who the f**k are you to even question her coaching situation with Wetmore? There's a chance that there are huge conflicts there, among other situations. So if she wants to change coaches, then let her. She knows what's best for her, not some dumba$$ on letsrun who's probably ran a 5:00 mile in high school.

rojo wrote:

jjjjjjj wrote:

Ask Jeremy Wariner about the wisdom of doing this.

Look.While I think Wetmore is a genius. I will point out that a) Wariner never did anything after he returned to clyde hart and b) Jenny Simpson won a world title under Juli Benson.

How many times do I have to say, the coach is the jockey/caddy.

Weren't you a college coach? Must have been inspiring for all those college kids to run for a guy who considered himself a caddy.