Just tweeted out by her, a little surprised. Good to have a full time coach I guess.
Just tweeted out by her, a little surprised. Good to have a full time coach I guess.
I guess you don't read the forums. That news was on here in early November.
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=7852770
Although to be fair, I think a moderator thought it was a troll and took it down as I just reinstated it. I knew she was leaving at NCAA xc as I overheard a Colorado runner say it. I thought I mentioned that fact on the messageboard thread somewhere else but can't find it.
I believe Wetmore charges the runners a percentage of their winnings. I wonder if it was personality or $$ decision or both.
It's kind of interesting as Simpson thought she didn't need Wetmore, until she did. Will Coburn come back in a few years?
rojo wrote:
I guess you don't read the forums.
Or there was slightly more important news in the world on 11/9. But good job!
If she upset about giving Wetmore a percentage of her winnings then she might be giving 50% of her winnings to her husband.
How often do athletes who have achieved at a high level change coaches and it works out?
Just like Jeremy Wariner leaving Clyde Hart.
Mark Wetmore v. Joe Bosshard ...hmmm, one genius for another?
Hey Rojo, a good question for a thread is, "Do already elite athletes need a full time coach?" Sometimes a coach's philosophy actually harms an athlete and an athlete actually knows there own body.
minong wrote:
Just tweeted out by her, a little surprised. Good to have a full time coach I guess.
Does her husband have any coaching cred whatsoever? If not, this is going to be a total fail.
Even if he is a halfway decent coach it will be a fail in that the spouse dynamic is different from athlete coach. Yes, there are have been examples of it working well, but there is usually some strange dynamic at play. Seems like this will either hurt her career, or her marriage.
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minong wrote:Just tweeted out by her, a little surprised. Good to have a full time coach I guess.
Does her husband have any coaching cred whatsoever? If not, this is going to be a total fail.
Even if he is a halfway decent coach it will be a fail in that the spouse dynamic is different from athlete coach. Yes, there are have been examples of it working well, but there is usually some strange dynamic at play. Seems like this will either hurt her career, or her marriage.
I'm sure Emma has put more thought into this than you have. I'm sure Bosshard is competent to coach a steepler or she would have just got a new coach.
As for the husband/wife conflict, Kim Conley is married to her coach and still improves every year.
reed wrote:
As for the husband/wife conflict, Kim Conley is married to her coach and still improves every year.
But Kim Conley's husband is, you know, an actual...coach!
This is what's wrong with our sport. In running, it seems so simple (but it's not). So everyone thinks they can do it. "I'll just copy the workouts!" They think.
Coburn is on the top of her game, an Olympic medalist. She's the best steepler we've ever had.
Could you imagine this in any other sport?
Michael Jordan saying he'd have his wife coach the team and not Phil Jackson?
Perhaps TOm Brady's wife Giselle instead of Bill Bellichek.
Too extreme?
It would be like Tom Brady in his prime saying No to Bill, and instead bringing in the former college quarterback at Colorado with zero coaching experience to coach him.
Only in running....
rojo wrote:
I guess you don't read the forums. That news was on here in early November.
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=7852770I believe Wetmore charges the runners a percentage of their winnings. I wonder if it was personality or $$ decision or both.
It's kind of interesting as Simpson thought she didn't need Wetmore, until she did. Will Coburn come back in a few years?
Wetmore's coaching and people managing smarts have been commented on by others. It just occurred to me that the man may be a business genius as well.
Rojo- that thread was seemingly a troll job, no link, no tweet from the horse's mouth-
If this has to do with money- I am not confident in it working out.
If she is choosing to do this because she is unhappy with results (bronze medal....how could that be?)- I am still not confident but more confident that it can work because she at least is choosing for RUNNING reasons.
This is the third high profile female to leave Wetmore, no? Jenny Simpson, Kara Groucher, now Coburn. 2/3 have returned, I think the third will as well.
Coin Flip wrote:
Just like Jeremy Wariner leaving Clyde Hart.
Mark Wetmore v. Joe Bosshard ...hmmm, one genius for another?
+1
Didn't Goucher leave him after college and start her pro career with Salazar and then eventually come back. Slightly different as seems her best years performance wise were with Alberto. But I agree - seems like a dumb move although yeah I wouldn't be surprised if there is another change before the next Olympics. Seems like now would be the time to test different waters.
Yeah you may be right on that- I can never remember her timeline (and don't like her enough to look it up).
Certainly the best time to experiment, but still a pretty large risk, IMO. I wonder how much money Wetmore was demanding that she decided to leave.
Foolish. Seriously, why? Money? Can you put price on what he has done for her?
If I were Wetmore I would never take back an athlete that left unless they paid me double. Kara? WTF was he thinking? All the garbage that her and Adam stirred up and he took them back? Maybe he figured she would be a good workout horse for some of the others and he was getting paid to have her around.
Coburn and those naked pics :( She is better looking with clothes on.
I'm the one who started that thread on the 9th and I mentioned it then that it wasn't a troll job!!
Yes, a moderator quickly deleted it. However myself, and many others, knew it to be true.
The reason has nothing to do with Wetmore, rather she didn't get along with Heather Burroughs.
Why didn't she pick an actual coach then? She managed to make it work for 8 years and have success. Just seems like the future hubby needed a job - does NB pay him? Does he even have a job now other than pacing the pro women in Boulder? I thought they met in college.
It took 8 yrs to realize she "didn't get along with Heather Burroughs?" Is it worth it? I suppose she feels it is and that's all that matters but I would suck it up and keep running faster. It's like the assistant coach or teammate that you really never meshed eventually you realize they aren't worth the drama.
Although to be fair, I think a moderator thought it was a troll and took it down as I just reinstated it
Lol