High school runner caught cheating again

lol that is legendary, get invited to milesplits headquarters because you cheated

lime in my drink wrote:

What everyone should be thinki wrote:

I guarantee he has a diagnosed/diagnosable mental disorder.

We're talking about teenagers here. They are not known for their foresight or consideration of long-term consequences.

Your argument is that since he is a teenager, he does not have a mental disorder?

You need to go get your own diagnosis.

I hope that this guy can learn to be proud of his accomplishments instead of cheating for an extra minute or 2. Very few people care whether someone is a 17 minute 5k runner or a 19 minute 5k runner. He obviously has a bit of talent given his 58 second opening 400 in that indoor 800 he cheated in + still managing to get back on the track and finish decently. Hopefully he is just a goofy kid who grows out of this instead of a future criminal.

Rupp fan wrote:

I hope that this guy can learn to be proud of his accomplishments instead of cheating for an extra minute or 2. Very few people care whether someone is a 17 minute 5k runner or a 19 minute 5k runner. He obviously has a bit of talent given his 58 second opening 400 in that indoor 800 he cheated in + still managing to get back on the track and finish decently. Hopefully he is just a goofy kid who grows out of this instead of a future criminal.

He's a sociopath. There is no cure. His destiny is fated.

They're gonna make him a meme. Its bound to happen.

what should the meme say?

3 miles?

nah, 1 mile

dumb pill in your drink wrote:

lime in my drink wrote:

We're talking about teenagers here. They are not known for their foresight or consideration of long-term consequences.

Your argument is that since he is a teenager, he does not have a mental disorder?

You need to go get your own diagnosis.

How old is he anyway?, I mean really how old, seems to be some conjecture.

I actually know this kid, he goes to the same XC camp as me. I found it weird that he was always saying this motivational stuff about running yet he was on his phone 90% of the time. I do know that he got kicked off his team at the beginning of the season and "ran" the Manhattan Invite as well as regionals unattached. Pretty pathetic and dumb as hell.

maoi, peganum harmala wrote:

what should the meme say?

3 miles?

nah, 1 mile

1 mile?

Nah 800 meters.

800 meters?

Nah die out and then join back in last 50 meters.

Also, his 800 and 1600 indoor PRs are bogus. His teammates told me that he starts the race, jumps off and hides behind the high jump matt and gets back in the race at the end. Disgrace to the sport.

How did he get the Team USA kit on his Facebook page?

Anyone can buy one on the USATF website for around $50.

Hingle 2.0 wrote:

How did he get the Team USA kit on his Facebook page?

I think USATF sells some of the official uniform items. Not sure about that. I would bet he bought it rather than was given it by USATF: even if legit his times and record are not that exceptional to induce USATF's gifting him stuff. He also may have won it in a raffle or something.

You can buy that anywhere online.

I know this is LetsRun but I'm a bit dismayed by some of the responses here. Can't people be something other than ironic and cynical? Yeah, what this kid did was patently wrong, but he is a kid. He's a high school student. And I believe he's redeemable and hope his parents, teachers, and coaches will help him now that this is out in the open. People saying he has a mental disorder and can't be helped, well, I'm not a shrink but I think at this age with whatever is going on, most psych professionals would say he can in fact be helped.

As an aside, looking at him run at the Armory (when he was you know, actually honestly running and not dropping out then back in on the sly) I tend to feel he'd be better at sprints possibly? Anyone else see that? He seems determined to lead but really struggling: he's fast at the onset but really slags off . . . you have to wonder if frustrations in his performance were what lead to him cheating, which would be no excuse for it at all, but maybe try him in other events and see—if he agrees to play fair—what he can do by the book?

I just hate people writing off a high schooler. The hardest job of coaches is the worst kids, the uncoachable, dishonest, or ornery ones, but it's still our job to help even them.

It's on Deadspin now.

"Professional Skills" Womens Running lol

http://i.imgur.com/vNtShFD.png

Businessperson? Women's running?

Maybe a future self identifying gender women's Olympian?