No it isn't!! Snell, Ryun, Ovett etc., etc.!!!!
No it isn't!! Snell, Ryun, Ovett etc., etc.!!!!
83irj wrote:
Being fresh after heats has nothing to do with endurance. It has to do with saving energy during the heats. All that matters is your PR and how much slower your heat time is.
Of course the endurance has a lot to do with it, with better endurance you will recover faster, no matter how fast the heats are. Of course everyone wants to save as much energy as they can in heats, but those are often quite fast. If it would be as simple as you say, they could give the medals to the runners who has the greates differences between PR´s vs. heat results. And to reach the best possible PR @ 1500, you need a very good aerobic endurance.
Under Salazar, Centro has steadily increased his mileage over the past 4 years. Before joining NOP, Alberto has said that Centro's longest run was only 12 or 13 miles. He bumped up to 80s and 90s in recent years. Running in the low 100s is just a natural progression through the program and falls in line with his plan to move up to 5,000. Alberto did the same with Galen. Slowly increasing his mileage year after year. Interesting to see how different athletes train. Robby Andrews was pretty close to Centro at the trials and just started running 70 miles per week consistently this past year. Clayton Murphy has beaten Centro and only runs in the 60s.
So still no article link?
shizzy wrote:
So still no article link?
washingtonpost.com
Sports section
Three boulders in a creek wrote:
Centro isn't a miler. He might be able to win a US championships but won't be able to step up with the big boys on the world stage and win a medal in the mile.
What? You mean like Olympic Gold?!
That picture makes it look like Willis is about to slap the androgel on Centro.
Rupp wouldn't have any of that.
He has already won a olympic gold against the best the world has to offer, so what else does he have to prove in the OS/WC??
We can certainly go sub 3:30 making he a serious contender for the win in a fast diamond legeau race.
With his added strength from high mileage he could mabye go for a sub 7:30 and 13:00.
Then counting in the speed he has 50.0 close in a 1500 meter, he should be a candidate for a medal at 5000m as well.
Also as a non-american I am a fan of Centro, he is a great runner that works hard and seems a nice guy as well.
Just like 100 miles a week killed Shell's speed ( 38.6 last 300m on a loose cinder track Tokyo Olympics)
a pain in the weltschmerz wrote:
Just like 100 miles a week killed Shell's speed ( 38.6 last 300m on a loose cinder track Tokyo Olympics)
Second this. Dude only ran 1:44.x on grass for the world record, you could tell the mileage was wrecking his shorter races
Interesting article in Washington Post. He wants U.S. 1500m and mile records. He wants to do some 5000m races next year. No I did not link article.
Editor's Note: Article is here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2016/11/22/even-matthew-centrowitz-was-shocked-he-won-gold-in-rio-now-he-craves-more/
U.N.O. wrote:
83irj wrote:Being fresh after heats has nothing to do with endurance. It has to do with saving energy during the heats. All that matters is your PR and how much slower your heat time is.
Of course the endurance has a lot to do with it, with better endurance you will recover faster, no matter how fast the heats are. Of course everyone wants to save as much energy as they can in heats, but those are often quite fast. If it would be as simple as you say, they could give the medals to the runners who has the greates differences between PR´s vs. heat results. And to reach the best possible PR @ 1500, you need a very good aerobic endurance.
A lot is just genetic luck (well it might be related to training/diet/.... but we have no clue about the link) in that some people recover quicker. The person that needs 36 hours to recover from a hard effort is going to do better with heats than the person that need 48. Training can tweak that to some extent but a lot of time training is more a sign of your ability to recover than the cause.
Listenthis wrote:
I like rupp wrote:He has already made a case for GOAT American miler.
If he gets either record, it's case closed. He's it.
Um, he lost in the 5th Ave mile to Jenkins...a 5,000 meter runner!!
Jenkins is a great athlete. Out leaned by Chelimo for the final 5k spot on the Olympic team. Chelimo then went on to medal at the Games. Jenkins ran sub 3:50 to beat Centro. Doesn't matter where or when you run sub 3:50. Roads, track. Doesn't matter. When you run sub 3:50 you win 99% of the time. Even against World Class milers.
And when Jenkins runs sub 3:50 you can't say he isn't a miler.
He only ran the 1500 once all year and ran 3:35. That's a 3:52 mile. No one runs their fastest mile/1500 in their first or second races of the season. Yet in his only two mile/1500 races this year Jenkins ran 3:35 and 3:50.
Yes Centro got beat by a 5k guy. But that 5k guy is also a world class miler.
U.N.O. wrote:
83irj wrote:Being fresh after heats has nothing to do with endurance. It has to do with saving energy during the heats. All that matters is your PR and how much slower your heat time is.
Of course the endurance has a lot to do with it, with better endurance you will recover faster, no matter how fast the heats are. Of course everyone wants to save as much energy as they can in heats, but those are often quite fast. If it would be as simple as you say, they could give the medals to the runners who has the greates differences between PR´s vs. heat results. And to reach the best possible PR @ 1500, you need a very good aerobic endurance.
No, not "of course". Endurance has nothing to do with recovering. What I said has nothing to do with medals. Medals are for who crosses the finish line first. That is about endurance, luck, and tactics so it would make no sense to give the medal to the best PR.
Of course it is possible Centro could beat Farah in a championship 5000m. Farah is getting older and maybe beating Mo at his own game is the way to go.
U.N.O. wrote:
A good example of great champinships runner is Nick Willis, always strong in the finals, a lots of faster (sprinting speed) runners there but he´s still very strong in the last lap.
Generally so, but not in the 2012 Olympics where he finished 9th and faded badly at the end.
Hooderring wrote:
Of course it is possible Centro could beat Farah in a championship 5000m. Farah is getting older and maybe beating Mo at his own game is the way to go.
Did you say it is possible (and even very likely) that Centro could beat Mobot in a 5K?
I hope Mo remembers Centro's 3 x 800m in 1:49 and this workout when Mo looks over with 400m to go in a 5000m and Centro is there:
https://mobile.twitter.com/KelynSoong/status/800805220448141313/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw…uh oh…Oh no MoNo…It's Centro!!!
Does anyone know what kind of mileage he was doing last year or the year before? People on here are losing their minds over what might be an extra 10 MPW over previous seasons.
To me he is the GOAT. He is Olympic Champion. He is a world indoor champion. And he has one of the fastest 1500M in U.S. history (Lagat and Maree have the only faster times). This next outdoor season is all about times. I would not be surprised to see him end the year with new PRs across the board.
[quote]rjm33 wrote:
Albuterol Androgel Salbutamol Salazar
that's funny