JFK 50 Miler record crushed 5:21:29

Has he been drug tested?

An honest question wrote:

Has he been drug tested?

Probably not. Huge lack of testing in Ultra-running.

The next obvious step for Walmsley is COMRADES!!!!

That races pays nearly 28,000 to the winner.

Max King ran the down course last year in 5:37. Winner broke the course record at 5:18.

A good race would put Walmsley right in the mix.

I doubt there are 5 marathoners in the U.S. who could beat Walmsley right now.

My guess is that he would be in that 2:11-2:12 range.

Two things

1. I think Jim and Gray would be a better match up in the pikes ascent, not the marathon. Jim has dominated the ultra trail and Gray the shorter mountain races. The ascent would put them toe to toe against a very stout record.

2. Not sure I would give Jim too much props on this record, Max ran quite conservative and just ran away with it the last half. Records are meant to be broken! Toe to toe is what counts really? Not sure he has beaten Max, Gray, Sage, Tollefson or even Miller toe to toe in any distance?

glj/ wrote:

6-8 weeks of specific marathon training and he goes 2:11.

2020 Olympic trials?

not impressed. wrote:

Another solo time trial with no pressure (yawn).

Watch him crack again when others toe the line. Overhyped.

You really enjoy pissing on everyone.

Have fun sourpuss troll.

I too think this guy is on PEDS unfortunately.

if you follow his strava he posts the most whacky stuff, if he is this good legit, i think he should drop the ultra crap and just move over to the marathon, a lot of his miles today were 5:3x-5:4x, he split a 2:38 marathon while running 50 miles in harsh terrain, this guy could be a 2:10 marathoner if he applied himself.

adioscoconino wrote:

? Not sure he has beaten Max, Gray, Sage, Tollefson or even Miller toe to toe in any distance?

He was 7 miles away from crushing the western states record. Taking a wrong turn is NOT bonking. He said he still considers that his best race this year. 9 races 8 wins 5 course records 1 wrong turn.

He is planning on going to North Face 50 mile in two weeks.

not impressed. wrote:

Another solo time trial with no pressure (yawn).

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Since no human at the race could challenge him, he had to race the clock. He won by 3.5 minutes. His stated goal before the race was 5:25!

whodunit wrote:

I too think this guy is on PEDS unfortunately.

if you follow his strava he posts the most whacky stuff, if he is this good legit, i think he should drop the ultra crap and just move over to the marathon, a lot of his miles today were 5:3x-5:4x, he split a 2:38 marathon while running 50 miles in harsh terrain, this guy could be a 2:10 marathoner if he applied himself.

And what would that get him? He is the top ultra runner in the U.S. right now. Do you think he could beat Rupp? Do you think he could run a 205 to win a major?

Would you apply yourself to be "just another marathoner" or would you apply yourself to be "the best ever" ultra runner?

I think he is very similar to Jared Ward in ability. At the end of the day you have to do what you like the best and for Walmsley that seems to be ultras on trail.

A league of his own.... wrote:

Since no human at the race could challenge him, he had to race the clock. He won by 3.5 minutes. His stated goal before the race was 5:25!

Who was 3.5 minutes behind him?

He is very fast for an ultra-runner.

TrackBot! VDOT 13:52 5K

Someone will have to be very good to beat him when he is rested.

VDOT for 13:52 5km: 76.2

Equivalent race times based on VDOT:

Marathon: 02:13:01

Half marathon: 01:03:29

15K: 00:44:11

10K: 00:28:50

5K: 00:13:52

3Mi: 00:13:21

2Mi: 00:08:36

3200m: 00:08:33

3K: 00:07:58

1Mi: 00:04:01

1600m: 00:04:00

1500m: 00:03:43

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Interesting 1`/ wrote:

Who was 3.5 minutes behind him?

Second place was more than 30 minutes behind Jim. No idea where that other dude came up with 3.5 minutes.

xccrush wrote:

There have been a handful of guys over the last 5 years that have moved up in distance from the road and track and done well. This is not anything new. A lot of times the best guys have more stellar cross country credentials and experience with road marathons. Jim ran a 1:08 out of college and was 42nd at USATF 12km cross country last time he raced shorter distances in 2015.

What is new is how much Jim is shattering records by this year and how much he has improved in longer ultras over the past 10 months. He is simply unstoppable and at a totally different level compared to any one else on the scene.

Here's a good interview with him earlier this year that gives more of his running background, and how seriously (or not) he was taking running a couple years ago:

He says that if he had focused on track, he optimistically might have had a 13:20-25 in him. He obviously doesn't think he did everything to max out in college.

A league of his own.... wrote:

adioscoconino wrote:

? Not sure he has beaten Max, Gray, Sage, Tollefson or even Miller toe to toe in any distance?

He was 7 miles away from crushing the western states record. Taking a wrong turn is NOT bonking. He said he still considers that his best race this year. 9 races 8 wins 5 course records 1 wrong turn.

He is planning on going to North Face 50 mile in two weeks.

Something goes wrong in a major race, and he flops. Every single time. He's a time trialist and workout champ. Guys like Max, Joe, and Sage have competed at all levels, surfaces, and distances in head-to-head competition. Jim has yet to score a major win.

not impressed. wrote:

A league of his own.... wrote:

He was 7 miles away from crushing the western states record. Taking a wrong turn is NOT bonking. He said he still considers that his best race this year. 9 races 8 wins 5 course records 1 wrong turn.

He is planning on going to North Face 50 mile in two weeks.

Something goes wrong in a major race, and he flops. Every single time. He's a time trialist and workout champ. Guys like Max, Joe, and Sage have competed at all levels, surfaces, and distances in head-to-head competition. Jim has yet to score a major win.

Is that you Sage?

One thing that stands out to me is how slow Jim's stride rate is even at these faster paced miles. He averages around 160!

check this out:

https://www.strava.com/activities/779994487

Can someone explain this to me?

not impressed. wrote:

A league of his own.... wrote:

He was 7 miles away from crushing the western states record. Taking a wrong turn is NOT bonking. He said he still considers that his best race this year. 9 races 8 wins 5 course records 1 wrong turn.

He is planning on going to North Face 50 mile in two weeks.

Something goes wrong in a major race, and he flops. Every single time. He's a time trialist and workout champ. Guys like Max, Joe, and Sage have competed at all levels, surfaces, and distances in head-to-head competition. Jim has yet to score a major win.

That is total nonsense.

You have a sourpuss troll attitude.

Jim Walmsley will easily destroy you at any distance race.