I've come to terms with it: I'm prejudiced against fat people

I feel bad fat people mostly. Not just because they live their lives in fat bodies but because they all think its out of their control and drown themselves in self pity. Sorry to say but its just sad to see people like that

Tupacs ghost wrote:

I feel bad fat people mostly. Not just because they live their lives in fat bodies but because they all think its out of their control and drown themselves in self pity. Sorry to say but its just sad to see people like that

Kill your English teacher .

al least you're honest wrote:

I applaud your honesty but bear in mind weight is not exactly 100% under a person's control. There are many health conditions and medications that cause or can cause substantial weight gain. Some of these even alter a person's DNA in such a way that weight loss even with great diet and high levels of exercise is much much harder than it is for a normal person.

THIS.

My wife was fit and very physically attractive when we met and began dating. She had a traumatic event occur, developed an anxiety disorder, and was prescribed medication that has caused her to gain a significant amount of weight. The medication, in concert with the depression caused by the PTSD from the event and what it triggered, had real effects on her metabolism and her motivation. Yes, motivation can be overcome to an extent, but it is hard to keep it up when you know that your health and medications will still prevent you from returning to what you once were.

I still love her and this is just how and who she is as a person as a result of events that are almost entirely out of her control. Maybe a new medication will work that doesn't have these effects, but maybe not.

And she struggles with it much more than I do. She feels ashamed and sad. So your judgment is probably much worse than the internal judgment of some of the people against whom you claim to be prejudiced.

spokanexc wrote:

She had a traumatic event occur, developed an anxiety disorder, and was prescribed medication.

It's scientifically proven that 30 minutes of exercise is more effective than anxiety/depression medication... get her running (and a counselor)!

Never mind that 30 minutes weaselworkout. Send her to WaydeVanNiekerk's camp for three months, full participation compulsory. That will fix the problem forever.

Hopefully you are trolling. But the counselor is the one prescribing the medication. This is in conjunction with therapy. Exercise alone doesn't always cure some of the shit people go through.

Too mee wrote:

Tupacs ghost wrote:

I feel bad fat people mostly. Not just because they live their lives in fat bodies but because they all think its out of their control and drown themselves in self pity. Sorry to say but its just sad to see people like that

Kill your English teacher .

Fat guy alert. Lol never have i been to a forum as petty as this one when it comes to grammar. Puncuation marks are on the second keyboard screen on my phone which i just dont care enough to use

The first thing that needs to be done is to separate body image from health.

It is a proven fact that being overweight and deconditioned leads to a variety of health problems, including HTN, heart disease, diabetes, metabolic syndrome, knee and back pain/arthritis, all of which comes with a massive increase in health care costs to all of society.

The fat shaming should stop - it's mean, it doesn't help and there are more constructive methods to increase awareness of what is a public health crisis.

That said, fat "activists" need to stop defending obesity and deconditioning at all costs. It's not logical or truthful.

Emotions are not cognitive tools. The health issues are separate from body image and self-worth, and should be treated as such.

Czech locomotive wrote:

It is a proven fact that being overweight and deconditioned leads to a variety of health problems...

The fat shaming should stop - it's mean, it doesn't help and there are more constructive methods to increase awareness of what is a public health crisis.

It has stopped, to a large degree, and that's why America is so ridiculously overweight. I say bring it back, tenfold.

And why do these health problems not kick in and take my fat mother-in-law out of her misery already?!?

ARGH - Stop Fat Shaming Me - I will finish IMAZ this weekend H.A.E.S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stop making excuses! Christ.

I only read OP's original post and this last page and saw several excuses.

Almost all fat people could choose not to be fat. Of course there are things that make it more difficult or almost impossible but they are RARE.

Most people think they or their family member/friend/spouse have a legit excuse, including on this page, but they almost never do.

Dial it up wrote:

Most people think they or their family member/friend/spouse have a legit excuse, including on this page, but they almost never do.

Absolutely true. Lots of fat people in my family. And I also have the genetics for it -- I put on weight entirely too easily. Yet I'm not fat, and they are. The difference between them and me? I work my a@@ off. Literally. They don't. They're constantly on and off of some "diet" or whatever and never lose a pound, net. It used to make me sad, but now it just makes me angry.

Am I saying I'm better than them? Why yes, as a matter of fact I am!

RagenChastain wrote:

ARGH - Stop Fat Shaming Me - I will finish IMAZ this weekend H.A.E.S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why are you feeding Julianne to death? What about her oxygen tank and mobility scooter?

This message board, even given that it's main topic is something athletic, has a genuine pathological aversion and animus to fat people.

Honestly, what do you care?

Your website is bs. You call yourself a marathoner yet according to you you have only finished 1. If I went out and ran a 7 minute mile I wouldn't call myself a world class athlete. Walking a marathon in 6+ hours does not make you world class. There are many negatives to being obese. You'll be dead years before anyone who is not obese.

Btw your partner dance video made me gag.

BenSchmitz wrote:

Your website is bs. You call yourself a marathoner yet according to you you have only finished 1. If I went out and ran a 7 minute mile I wouldn't call myself a world class athlete. Walking a marathon in 6+ hours does not make you world class. There are many negatives to being obese. You'll be dead years before anyone who is not obese.

Btw your partner dance video made me gag.

Don't try to fatshame her!

Czech locomotive wrote:

The fat shaming should stop - it's mean, it doesn't help and there are more constructive methods to increase awareness of what is a public health crisis.

But it does help. It's been scientifically shown to help.

30 years ago we decided to start smoke-shaming and guess what? People quit smoking.

In all my years an elite athlete I've never been so offended.......I am a marathoner I have a medal to prove it - you think you're so high and mighty Mr. 7 minute mile. Well let me tell you - it's a proven fact you don't need to be thin to be healthy - I've proved it time and time again - H.A.E.S. - and being obese doesn't mean I'll die early. Also get your facts straight my marathon PR is 12:20:xxNext UP IMAZ!Ragen Chastain - YOU. ARE. AN. IRONMAN. I know I'll hear those words this weekend.

BenSchmitz wrote:

Your website is bs. You call yourself a marathoner yet according to you you have only finished 1. If I went out and ran a 7 minute mile I wouldn't call myself a world class athlete. Walking a marathon in 6+ hours does not make you world class. There are many negatives to being obese. You'll be dead years before anyone who is not obese.

Btw your partner dance video made me gag.

Always wondered about this. For me the real question isn't about the physical choice to eat less. From that standpoint, weight is completely under ones control. Even if you're a completely bed-ridden person to get fat you still have to consume more than you're burning.

However, where I've never been sure is when it comes to will power/mental side of choosing not to eat. It seems easy to say "just make the choice and stick to it", and while there are many people that can do this, I have some legitimate level of doubt that all people are capable of that. In the same way that not everyone can run 12:59, or 45 second 400, I suspect there are people that cannot tell themselves no, especially over a sustained period of time.

Seriously would be curious to know to what extent the Dunning-Krueger effect plays into the whole issue, in much the same way as there are many people on this board who think that anyone can run a 16:xx 5k with a little training