Cormier to Ark

woiejfoiwjewewwwww wrote:

Makes sense that he's heading to Arkansas as opposed to Stanford or Michigan - judging by his Dyestat posts, he can barely spell his own name.

You've never seen Alberto Salazar's writing have you? A college education is highly over-rated.

i. kant wrote:

"Top Tier?" They are tied for 120th place

Which is in US News' top tier. It's also ranked among the top 50 or so public universities in the country.

Lies and Stats from an Old HOG wrote:

...make sure that you mention that there are roughly 760 accredited universities. So 120 isn't horrible for a federally funded university.

The category of "National Universities" has 248 schools. Arkansas is 120 in that category - a bit better than half. The other main category, liberal arts schools, comprises many schools such as Williams, Amherst, Bucknell, etc. that are generally considered to be better than bad public universities. Remember that Ark. is considered the "flagship" state University - while many others in the National category are smaller or satellite campuses.

Here's the state schools that are ranked higher than Arkansas:

Cal-Berkeley

U. Michigan

U. Virginia

UCLA

UNC-Chapel hill

William and Mary

Wisconsin

Cal-SD

Illinois

Ga. Tech

Cal-Irvine

Cal-Davis

Cal-Santa Barbara

Texas

Washington

Penn St.

Florida

Maryland

Rutgers

Georgia

Iowa

Ohio State

Purdue

Miami, Ohio

Texas A & M

Delaware

Minnesota

Pitt

Indiana

Michigan St.

Clemson

SUNY-Binghamton

Va. Tech

Colorado

Cal-Riverside

Iowa St.

N.C. State

Alabama

Missouri

Auburn

Cal-Santa Cruz

Kansas

Tennessee

Vermont

Ohio U.

Arizona

Massachussets

Nebraska

New Hampshire

Utah

Oregon

Florida St.

Colorado St.

SUNY-Stony Brook

Missouri-Rolla

South Carolina

I count that there are only 14 states with public universities that are worse than Arkansas. Look at some of the states they beat- those known for their academic achievement: Mississippi, West Virginia, Idaho, Louisiana, Nevada, South Dakota.

Lies and Stats from an Old HOG wrote:

...make sure that you mention that there are roughly 760 accredited universities. So 120 isn't horrible for a federally funded university.

LOL. okay now you are comparing it to some REALLY shitty schools. face it, arkansas is not the best school in the world and as a state it is worse.

And while I generally think Arkansas is an extremely backasswards state - the Fayetteville area is actually beautiful and has a lot of great places to run. Most of the country may hate Wal-Mart - but it has done wonders in pumping money into Northwest Arkansas.

UofA is no Harvard - but they have some strong programs sprinkled in with many weak ones. My HS valedictorian (36 ACT, 1560 SAT) went to Arkansas for some reason (can't remember the field he went to study, though).

And UofA is the best overall Track/CC program in the country - even if Colorado and Wisco both seem to be recruiting better LD talent of late.

The real letsrun question -- How did AlSal let him not go to Oregon???

idiot wrote:

If anything, I'm going to go to a school that doesn't care a whole lot about indoor, because indoor is just about the worst thing for distance runners.

CU, Wisco or Stanford would be my choice

Hey "Idiot,"

Maybe you didn't notice where your beloved Wisco program finished at indoor nationals. Looks like they take indoors fairly seriously. But then, again, this is track, you don't seem to know too much about that.

I'm pretty sure that Arkansas has more XC titles that Colorado, Wisconsin, and Stanford combined. I'm actually not a fan of Arkansas, just trying to point out the obvious reasons why a top distance runner might choose to go to school and run for the Hogs.

Arkansas has the best coach and program in the world that is why Cormier is heading to the UofA. Look at the calibre of athletes that train there.

800m

James Hatch (2nd NCAA indoors) 1.47.4

James Kiranu (1.46)

Senica Lassiter (1.46)

Said Ahmed (1.47)

1500m/Mile

Senica Lassiter (3.34)

Said Ahmed (3.37)

Mark Fountain (3.54mile)

3000m/5000m/10000m/Steeple

Alistair Cragg 7.38-13.11 28.18

Daniel Lincoln 7.40-8.16steeple-28.18

Josphat Boit 7.46-13.18

Peter Koskie (2nd NCAA 3000m)

Jason Sandfort 28.29

Plus a handfull of other athletes that would run circles around you. So now go cry into your pillow, because you were never fast enough to make the squad at the UofA

If you can't beat 'em, berate 'em.

What must you do to get a full ride there?

idiot wrote:

If I'm a distance runner, I'm going to go the the school that is best at developing distance runners. Regardless of what anyone says, it is not Arkansas. If anything, I'm going to go to a school that doesn't care a whole lot about indoor, because indoor is just about the worst thing for distance runners.

CU, Wisco or Stanford would be my choice

Yeah, Arkansas definitely focuses too much on indoor. They've only managed to win double-digit championships in outdoor and cross-country each.

iloverunning wrote:

What must you do to get a full ride there?

get good grades academically, which i;m sure most of the recruits have.

they all sure as hell ain't got no full ride atheltically with the studs on the roster (spearmon, gay, ahmed, and on on)

Of all the great distance runners that arkansas has recruited and developed. which of them improved after college and continued their success into the olympic/world championship stage? Alistair Cragg has been great in his first year out, but what about others? 3,4,5 years out of college? Seneca Lassiter?

Lassiter left and came back...I can name a few people, Joe Falcon, Reuben Reina, Daniel Lincoln, Alistair Cragg, Graham Hood, plus many more. Answer your question dickhead? Better yet, come to Arkansas tell the athletes to their face what you think of them and their coaches program and see your arse get handed to you on every run or workout that you do. You rate your self so highly, lets just see how great you really are.

Which former Hog runner attributes his alergies to the wonderful chicken industry which dominates the great state of AK [and all the air which surrounds it]?

* I know the program's status. I accept the fact the school is ok. But if I have my pick of U's,UA wouldn't be on my list.

Doogie's going to Arkansas?? For Med School,right??? I mean he's already got his undergrad, I assume.....

Unfortunately, they don't take 4:30+ milers at Arkansas, CU, Wisconsin, or Stanford, so it's a moot point you're making, idiot. Actually they have at CU, but that doesn't concern you, anyway. As far as Wisc and Stanford, who can they say they've "developed" in the past two years that outshines Ahmed, Lincoln, and Cragg, by your rubric?

hey bigroy- ak would be the abbreviation for alaska, smart guy.

-"Which former Hog runner attributes his alergies to the wonderful chicken industry which dominates the great state of AK [and all the air which surrounds it]?"

Daniel Lincoln joined Arkansas as a walk on unrecruited by any major college program and made an olympic final and is heading off to med school...........