Another stupid response. What a surprise. Is mile 21 on the way out on the course? Read the details I have posted, and answer your own question.
About the bonk: I say you are both wrong and calumnious.
Another stupid response. What a surprise. Is mile 21 on the way out on the course? Read the details I have posted, and answer your own question.
About the bonk: I say you are both wrong and calumnious.
You are welcome. And don't listen to all the haters on here. They are just trying to get a rise out of you. Take the high road instead. And Roll Tide. (Sorry, we just scored again).
Angryjohnny wrote:
You are welcome. And don't listen to all the haters on here. They are just trying to get a rise out of you. Take the high road instead. And Roll Tide. (Sorry, we just scored again).
You are right, angryjohnny. I have said enough. Things should be clear.
All the best...
outsiderunner wrote:
You are right, angryjohnny. I have said enough. Things should be clear.
All the best...
Sure kid... but don't give up now... this is when it gets good.
Take care Angryjohnny... errr... Molkinsloth... errr... outsiderunner...
..yea that's it.
Bonk or conveniently "getting lost" on a well-marked out and back course on the way back in.
Occam's Razor says...
Post the GPS file from your watch.
Have run NCR 3 times, impossible to get lost.
However, there is that killer hill during he last 1.5 miles that can give people a lot of trouble. Is that the real reason why you missed your time?
Ok to admit that, it is a rough hill!
Maybe try again this Saturday at Rehoboth!
outsiderunner....dude your're a good runner. The past few posts from people who have ran the course suggest you're full of crap regarding getting lost. You're 47. Old enough to know it's best to look in the mirror. People will have a hell of a lot more respect for someone who can admit failure. You just deflect. You have received a lot of good advice. Use it. You're talented. You will have no problems going sub 3 if train properly. Good luck.
I am taking the high road here. I am not a liar. I do not know what else to say.
It is hard to speak for someone else, and so please do not try to. You were not there, and you did not see what I saw.
Just wanted to say congratulations on not giving up. I know how easy it is to make a wrong turn, especially when it appears someone is directing you that way. And if you're not used to running small races where huge gaps develop, knowing every nuance of a course ahead of time isn't something you'd really think about. My advice, outside runner, is to recover intelligently from this marathon and enjoy your fitness in shorter, local races. It's fun to "fly" at 5:30-pace in 5Ks. Your training suggests you're in better condition than I was in my mid-40s and "easily" ran 2:56:04. And I enjoyed the local masters racing scene over all sorts of other distances, and cross-country races, too. Then you can target a marathon next fall, and do a 12-week marathon-specific program (or whatever). With your training performances, 2:50 doesn't seem out of the question. You're still improving at age 47. Again, congratulations on never giving up. Enjoy! Thanks for sharing, and all the best to you.
outsiderunner wrote:
I am taking the high road here. I am not a liar. I do not know what else to say.
You could post your gps file
outsiderunner wrote:
It is hard to speak for someone else, and so please do not try to. You were not there, and you did not see what I saw.
No one else saw what you saw either.
outsiderunner wrote:
I am taking the high road here. I am not a liar. I do not know what else to say.
Looking forward to you posting your Strava data.
Thanks in advance.
lol. You were off sub 3 by over two minutes at half and off PR pace, and if you went off path for 4 minutes you still weren't PR or sub 3. You were wrong, all of the advice you asked for was right but you ignored it, regardless of whether or not you got lost.
Just because you did something others are willing to do does mean it should be applauded or bragged about. You asked if you should go back to back to cash in on your fitness, you were told no, you claim to have done it anyway, and you failed whether you got lost or not. Too bad so sad. Maybe next year. Or maybe never if you remain stubborn and bullheaded.
The GPS data file you give us access to will tell you exactly how far and for how long you went off course.
You are welcome Allen1959, and I appreciate the remarks. I agree that it is fun to "fly" in 5k races, and we have a great Winter Series here in our local running club, consisting mostly of 5k races. I will be certainly targeting another marathon. I will do some research, and then determine when and where I should run.
I know you are not putting me on trail for getting lost (the way the others are), but I note that my watch was truly wacky in the second half of the run. I just checked my overall totals, and it says I ran 24.15 at an overall 7:47 pace! The fellow I spoke to after the race said the same weird thing happened to him. He ran the second half with his wife, and instead of recording 13.1 miles, it recorded 10.34 miles. Yet, it gave him what seemed like reasonable split times as he was running. This is a new (and more expensive) watch for me, and I feel like throwing it away.
I am glad you understand what I saw. Yes, I could not see any runner in front of me at that point, and every indication seemed to suggest that I turn right.
outsiderunner wrote:
You are welcome Allen1959, and I appreciate the remarks. I agree that it is fun to "fly" in 5k races, and we have a great Winter Series here in our local running club, consisting mostly of 5k races. I will be certainly targeting another marathon. I will do some research, and then determine when and where I should run.
I know you are not putting me on trail for getting lost (the way the others are), but I note that my watch was truly wacky in the second half of the run. I just checked my overall totals, and it says I ran 24.15 at an overall 7:47 pace! The fellow I spoke to after the race said the same weird thing happened to him. He ran the second half with his wife, and instead of recording 13.1 miles, it recorded 10.34 miles. Yet, it gave him what seemed like reasonable split times as he was running. This is a new (and more expensive) watch for me, and I feel like throwing it away.
I am glad you understand what I saw. Yes, I could not see any runner in front of me at that point, and every indication seemed to suggest that I turn right.
Yes, imaginary friends are good.
Strava don't lie? Garmin seems to: 24.15 miles for a certified 26.2 course, not including the extra ditsance I ran? What about 10.34 miles for 13.1? All of these devices can be useful, but they are accurate only within certain limits.
I do not have a Strava account, and have no interest in getting one--or in doing so, and uploading some file so that I can be told that I somehow faked it or "it really was not your file." I have had enough of your games and insults. All you do is criticize and assume the worst of everyone. What a bunch you are. Someone mentioed a "mirror." How about taking a look at yourselves?
outsiderunner wrote:
Strava don't lie? Garmin seems to: 24.15 miles for a certified 26.2 course, not including the extra ditsance I ran? What about 10.34 miles for 13.1? All of these devices can be useful, but they are accurate only within certain limits.
I do not have a Strava account, and have no interest in getting one--or in doing so, and uploading some file so that I can be told that I somehow faked it or "it really was not your file." I have had enough of your games and insults. All you do is criticize and assume the worst of everyone. What a bunch you are. Someone mentioed a "mirror." How about taking a look at yourselves?
You want the scrutiny to go away? Post it on Strava. Otherwise, the doubt will follow you around here forever.