Claiming a PR from GPS instead of a race

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Agreed this is annoying!

Another form of cheating wrote:

A runner I follow on instagram ran a 10k (supposedly, based on his gps) in 35:10 recently, and he's claiming it as a PR. No shame, he updated his profile with his time too.

Is this a normal thing to do? Or does it need to be a race to count as a PR?

Who is he cheating? Did you lose out on some prize money because he has a faster PR than you?

Has he hacked the GPS system too?

GPS is inaccurate, that's why we have races!

Duhhh wrote:

GPS is inaccurate, that's why we have races!

And races are never inaccurate.

Who cares. 35m is not a record for anyone, anywhere. If he wants to call it his record, why should that bother anyone? If you don't like it, unfollow him or unfriend him or whatever. Get a life.

Stay with it wrote:

Another form of cheating wrote:

A runner I follow on instagram ran a 10k (supposedly, based on his gps) in 35:10 recently, and he's claiming it as a PR. No shame, he updated his profile with his time too.

Is this a normal thing to do? Or does it need to be a race to count as a PR?

Who is he cheating? Did you lose out on some prize money because he has a faster PR than you?

Ha! Who cares? So you claim all your PR's from your watch? Good job loser!

yes...... wrote:

Duhhh wrote:

GPS is inaccurate, that's why we have races!

And races are never inaccurate.

Who cares. 35m is not a record for anyone, anywhere. If he wants to call it his record, why should that bother anyone? If you don't like it, unfollow him or unfriend him or whatever. Get a life.

Or vent on LRC...who cares by your logic?

On the note of course inaccuracy, that's always a hot topic. You must live under a rock or be as dense as one.

yes...... wrote:

Duhhh wrote:

GPS is inaccurate, that's why we have races!

And races are never inaccurate.

Who cares. 35m is not a record for anyone, anywhere. If he wants to call it his record, why should that bother anyone? If you don't like it, unfollow him or unfriend him or whatever. Get a life.

Rossi is that you?

you are very loose with the terms runner and record... plus this leads to the question of why you are following this person?

I had a friend who did this too. I never cared because his 35 minute 10k was almost 5 minutes behind my PR. I congratulated him. He never broke 38 minutes ever again...

But to answer your question, a GPS PR does not count. Unless do GPS watches just have a timer like a watch? I mean if you do a race without chip timing and you start 1 minutes back then that would be ok with me.

I think it is okay to do this when the course is long, and then you may use your split time. Most of the time your time/pace will be very close when using a good gps watch.

haha wrote:

you are very loose with the terms runner and record... plus this leads to the question of why you are following this person?

What do you mean? Same reason why anyone follows anyone. He's just a runner I thought was a cool person to look up to. Then I see a sketchy result and now I'm questioning it.

This is how people work. This is the internet. This is the earth. Welcome to the big world. What would you like to know next? Perhaps what day comes after Monday?

Hobby jogger education case #21: if it’s not on Athlinks, it never happened.

If he ran the distance in the time, why not call it a PR. If you can see on a map what route he took and nothing looks like the GPS screwed up, then he's got a new PR.

Nobody should be running hard enough to PR out there by themselves on a training run.

I suppose it depends on the quality of GPS he was using. A really cheap one I suppose should have an asterisk next to it. But a quality GPS watch is probably about as accurate as just about any 10K road course that is USATF certified.

A person's PR does not at all need to be in a race. Not only that but it doesn't need to have any proof behind it. It has zero impact anyone else. Especially if they're a 35 minute 10K runner. If they are lying it will be plainly obvious when they consistently come nowhere near what they claim to have run. The only time this is an issue is if you're trying to get into Boston/New York marathons.

Pointless wrote:

But a quality GPS watch is probably about as accurate as just about any 10K road course that is USATF certified.

Not true

Bike your 10k pr

They just keep coming. The idiocy of an app-for-everything world.

You CANNOT use commercial GPS to accurately measure a running distance. It does not work. It is in accurate by at least 15 m/s. Trees obsfucate GPS transmission. Commerical GPS can only get down to 15ft above the ground if nothing else comes first.

Jones counter. Steel tape. Chains. Even a Keson wheel. But not GPS.

GPS does not have a lot of precision.

Amateur Hour Power wrote:

yes...... wrote:

And races are never inaccurate.

Who cares. 35m is not a record for anyone, anywhere. If he wants to call it his record, why should that bother anyone? If you don't like it, unfollow him or unfriend him or whatever. Get a life.

Or vent on LRC...who cares by your logic?

On the note of course inaccuracy, that's always a hot topic. You must live under a rock or be as dense as one.

I was being facetious. Who's dense as a rock?