In general, any state east of the Mississippi and above the Mason Dixon line.
In general, any state east of the Mississippi and above the Mason Dixon line.
How about West Virginia. Sick and maimed coal miners, poverty, low income, low education, low everything.
dial it up wrote:
Florida takes the cake. Followed closely by Missouri, Oklahoma, and Mississippi.
It's not for everybody but FL is ok by me. Speaking as a 22 yr resident of South Florida/Miami/Ft Lauderdale areas- It's not the best for running which is not a big deal for me anymore, but the nightlife, the restaurants, the women, the beach, the women (again), and the social scene are amazing. Plenty of hot Latinas, Eastern Europeans, Russians, and models to make me never want to leave.
Nokaman wrote:
dial it up wrote:Florida takes the cake. Followed closely by Missouri, Oklahoma, and Mississippi.
It's not for everybody but FL is ok by me. Speaking as a 22 yr resident of South Florida/Miami/Ft Lauderdale areas- It's not the best for running which is not a big deal for me anymore, but the nightlife, the restaurants, the women, the beach, the women (again), and the social scene are amazing. Plenty of hot Latinas, Eastern Europeans, Russians, and models to make me never want to leave.
Although I only visit my parents in FL for 1 week per year, I'm with you, the good outweighs the bad. Enjoyed Pompano Beach & Lauderdale-By-the-Sea last spring. Maybe I'd start missing green grass and change my tune during a sweltering summer.
Well, the closest thing we have to a true failed 'third-world' economy, is Illinois.Literally, it is equivalent to third-world status.
Anti-American Dream wrote:
Have you been to places like Mississippi, Missouri, etc? They are like failed nations. The Somalia's of the USA, if you will.
Jacksonville is not awesome. St. Pete is a pretty fun place. Tampa is not, though it is on the upswing in terms of things to do and especially places to eat. Clearwater Beach is not a very nice beach. Ft. Soto is much better, though it has become very crowded and less well taken care of in recent years. Miami Beach is fun, Miami not as much. Driving in Florida is hellacious, not because traffic is worse than many places but because drivers are far worse. The weather is unbearable for running or anything else about seven months a year.
Chicago is a fun place to live with the lake, sports teams, and places to go--used to be quite reasonably priced for rent, food, and bars, though the weather is generally miserable, which makes a lot of the rest of Illinois depressing. Northern Indiana is a hell hole.
You should no wrote:
Puerto Rico
not a state. A Commonwealth
mountain-man wrote:
Nokaman wrote:It's not for everybody but FL is ok by me. Speaking as a 22 yr resident of South Florida/Miami/Ft Lauderdale areas- It's not the best for running which is not a big deal for me anymore, but the nightlife, the restaurants, the women, the beach, the women (again), and the social scene are amazing. Plenty of hot Latinas, Eastern Europeans, Russians, and models to make me never want to leave.
Although I only visit my parents in FL for 1 week per year, I'm with you, the good outweighs the bad. Enjoyed Pompano Beach & Lauderdale-By-the-Sea last spring. Maybe I'd start missing green grass and change my tune during a sweltering summer.
Yep, I'm very familiar with Pompano and Lauderdale-By-the-Sea. The Village Pump and Village Grille are fun, Cafe Maxx great food. Las Olas in downtown Ft Lauderdale- check out YOLO restaurant and ask for Freddie, he works the main bar in front on Friday nights. Downtown Lauderdale spots: YOLO, Lobster Bar, 401 Grille, Vibe, and the Royal Pig are good on the weekends.
Nokaman wrote:
mountain-man wrote:Although I only visit my parents in FL for 1 week per year, I'm with you, the good outweighs the bad. Enjoyed Pompano Beach & Lauderdale-By-the-Sea last spring. Maybe I'd start missing green grass and change my tune during a sweltering summer.
Yep, I'm very familiar with Pompano and Lauderdale-By-the-Sea. The Village Pump and Village Grille are fun, Cafe Maxx great food. Las Olas in downtown Ft Lauderdale- check out YOLO restaurant and ask for Freddie, he works the main bar in front on Friday nights. Downtown Lauderdale spots: YOLO, Lobster Bar, 401 Grille, Vibe, and the Royal Pig are good on the weekends.
Thank you, I will look into these spots next spring!
I don't understand the hate on Illinois. I've lived here 20 years after growing up in Michigan. The economy around Chicago must be strong -- it still amazes me how many seven figure homes there are in this area; hundreds of thousands of them, as far as the eye can see. I live in one of the many fairly wealthy subdivisions north of the city, and the main problem here is all the crappy drivers in their Mercedes/BMWs/Teslas etc. (with occasional Ferraris) who can't take their eyes off their iPhone 7s while sipping their $5 Starbucks drink. Ok, and potholes. The public schools around here are ridiculously good, and the sports teams are uber competitive because the parents have had their kids in club teams, with private lessons, since they could walk.
Besides all the sick amounts of wealth around here, at least close to the city, we have Lake Michigan, a world class city, tons of great restaurants, good sports teams, great museums, theater, tons of live music, arboretums, excellent health care. What we don't have are mild winters, interesting terrain, affordable housing, good skiing. Or low taxes. But I'm okay with paying higher than average taxes for good schools and to avoid living in a third world sheethole.
Some parts of Illinois aren't remotely like this, but the part I live in is one that most people feel extremely fortunate to live in.
I'm starting to hate Florida.
Nevada.
I have no idea how it would be to live there but man do I hate driving in Connecticut!
Anti-American Dream wrote:
Alaska is awesome wrote:http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6345a10.htmDude, if you get depressed in Montana, Wyoming, or Alaska, you're not doing it right. Get out and enjoy the greatness of the outdoors. Those are great states.
Louisiana and Mississippi are the most depressing, hands down. Poor economy. Outdoors is flat and not scenic. The weather is humid 9 months of the year. The water and beaches are awful. You're a loooooooooong drive to any place worth visiting.
Top 3 states by suicide:
1) Wyoming
2) Alaska
3) Montana
The mountains aren't everything, my dude. I'm a climber, so please believe I love the mountains. But there are so many other factors when determining quality of life in a particular locale. Every day life is tough in these places.
Living the dream here in southwestern Montana. Get a winter sport, drink beer only exerting yourself and the risk of suicide goes to ZERO!
let it snow!!
tripletrollthreat wrote:
Anti-American Dream wrote:http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6345a10.htmTop 3 states by suicide:
1) Wyoming
2) Alaska
3) Montana
The mountains aren't everything, my dude. I'm a climber, so please believe I love the mountains. But there are so many other factors when determining quality of life in a particular locale. Every day life is tough in these places.
Living the dream here in southwestern Montana. Get a winter sport, drink beer only exerting yourself and the risk of suicide goes to ZERO!
let it snow!!
The only state that matters is your state of mind.
Top 3 states by suicide:
1) Wyoming
2) Alaska
3) Montana
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There is some conjecture that there's link between altitude and suicide/depression.
Interesting.
http://www.hcn.org/articles/is-altitude-causing-suicide-in-the-west
As someone who grew up in Wyoming, I can see why it's a major state for offing yourself. The wind never stops blowing. Other than Jackson Hole, the women look like Roseanne Barr in her "big" days. Much of the state is nothing but prairie covered in sagebrush.
But, the fishing is great and there are fantastic mountain ranges (the Tetons and Big Horns). A great place to visit but not live.
Definitely a thread populated by youngsters, but that's OK.
You'll get over the lust for mega-cities with one party rule and night life that takes half of your income once you need to buy a house want to enjoy life every day and want something left over for travel and leisure.
A million bucks for a 50 year old cape cod on either coast or in Chicago will grow your tastes up fast as will the absolute impossibility of ever seeing your political machine changed in your lifetime.
Wisconsin is niceish
Children, children wrote:
Definitely a thread populated by youngsters, but that's OK.
You'll get over the lust for mega-cities with one party rule and night life that takes half of your income once you need to buy a house want to enjoy life every day and want something left over for travel and leisure.
A million bucks for a 50 year old cape cod on either coast or in Chicago will grow your tastes up fast as will the absolute impossibility of ever seeing your political machine changed in your lifetime.
Sure, you could decrease your spending, or just increase your income.