Brian Pilcher sets US 60-64 Marathon AND Half Marathon Records at Chicago

Big difference.The sleuths here did a lot of fact finding, cross checking, and data analysis to out Kip. They followed the trail of evidence (or lack thereof). In masters running there as long as the participants run A to B, there is little to do to verify or dispute how they got to their record setting fitness level. Athletes are only tested at championship events, and maybe some with prize money. And who is going to offer prize money for 60 year olds? So finger pointing without some shreds of evidence is generally a waste of time. Now there might be some truth to the ego thing, but that's entirely subjective and variable. A big ego to one person might be seen as an entirely different trait by another.

Masterstrack.com:

Ross, CA (PRWEB) December 14, 2011

2011 was a banner year for Brian Pilcher. After earning three medals at the World Masters Athletics Track and Field Championships, he won the U.S. National Masters Track Championship in both the 5,000 and 10,000-meters for men 55 – 59 and then clocked a record-setting 1:12:52 half marathon last month. Now his eyes are set on the Houston Marathon in January where he will make his first attempt to break the American record in the marathon for men 55 and older.

Pilcher exploded onto the Masters running scene just a few years ago and was named USATF and Running Times 2009 Runner of the Year for Men 50-54. His meteoric rise came to a screeching halt in March of 2010 when pain in his hips stopped him from running at all. Doctors determined that Brian had lost the cartilage in his hip and his pain was coming from the bones rubbing together. He underwent surgery to shave down the bones in both hips and anchor the labrum back in place. It was a success, but knee issues soon followed and Brian found himself unable to run for even five minutes. Frustrated with this new reality, Brian searched for alternatives and discovered the ElliptiGO.

Designed by runners, the ElliptiGO is the first outdoor fitness device specifically designed to emulate the running motion. It allows athletes of all levels to get a high-intensity workout without experiencing the repetitive impact of running. Healthy athletes and injured athletes alike have found it the most effective way to get an outdoor running experience without the usual pounding on their bodies, and it has quickly become the tool of choice for a number of 2012 Olympic hopefuls and competitive Masters runners.

For Brian, the key was that he didn’t feel his hip or knee pain when he rode the ElliptiGO, so he could get his training done even while injured.

“I refused to sit and wait for fate to heal my knee; to run again,” he explains. “I enjoyed riding the ElliptiGO and it kept me healthy psychologically because I was able to get in a solid workout. That’s key for any athlete suffering from an injury.”

After several months of riding, it became clear that the benefits for Pilcher weren’t only psychological. His bodywork therapist, Anita Acevedo, began to notice significant changes in his body.

“What truly amazed me was that his rib cage and upper torso became more upright and in alignment, and his core strength and posture dramatically improved,” Acevedo explained. “Structurally, the ElliptiGO helped Brian become stronger in both his legs and his lungs.”

Unless you are actually setting PRs none of those things are actually happening. You're just scrabbilng at the edge of the precipice and slipping backwards.

What are you trying to say here.

``None of those things are actually happening`` If you are running 100 miles a week at 40, that is actually happening. It`s real; it`s physical.

I believe she ran a 4:45 mile. So 5 min mile repeats would be real for a 40 year old female.

They are actually happening.

Yes.

The LRC trolls will even accuse a 60 year old who breaks an age group record of using PEDs.

The total amount of evidence in reference to PED use by Brian Pilcher:

ZERO.

The total number of age group records held by the LRC trolls:

ZERO.

The LRC trolls are probably not in a good mood... since they are now dealing with the fact that 60 year old Brian Pilcher or Martin Rees is faster than they are.

And if they are not faster than the LRC trolls…then Mr. Bernard Lagat is faster than the LRC trolls.

13:06.78 5K at 41 years old. He also won the 5k at the US Olympic trials with a 52.82 last 400m.

Take that LRC troll pups!!!

fred wrote:

Rees is faster.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/meet-fastest-60-year-old-planet---4038298

This. Credit to Brian, but Rees is WAY faster. Ran sub 33 10K at 60 and a 66 half at 50.

better than any other masters runner, in my opinion - even the great Sir Ed Whitlock.

Oh boy.

I am really mad now.

Update Ed Whitlock 2016 M85-89 World Records (again):

1) 1500m Indoor World Record – 6:38.87 (the outdoor WR is 6:37.75)

2) Mile World Record – 7:18.55

3) 3000m World Record –13:41.96 (equivalent to a sub-7:00 minute mile)

4) 5K World Record – 24:03.99

5) 10,000m Track World Record – 51:07.53

6) 10K Road World Record - 49:50

7) Half-Marathon World Record – 1:50:47

8) 25K World Record - 2:16:46 (split during Marathon WR)

9) 30K World Record - 2:45:46 (split during Marathon WR)

10) Marathon World Record - 3:56:33 (3:56:38 gun time)

11) Ed's next race…15K?, 10M?, 20K?, 8K?, 12K?, 800m?

Take that Martin Rees.

Well, we are also upset that it looks like Shrillary is going to win. We have to lash out at something. Brian is simply unfortunate collateral damage.

I rarely post here on LetsRun but on this particular thread, I must.

I know Brian and regularly get my ass beaten by him...we are just a couple months apart ( I a tad older)...when I hit the new age group I try like hell to race in the new AG in a hurry because I he will be in the same category momentarily ;)

The reason Brian's success is three gold and in no particular order a) he is a workaholic with so much fire in his belly and willing to undertake all of the necessary ancillary disciplines to make it work b) he obviously has some good genes and isn't AS beat up as some other athletes his vintage and c) he is just exceptionally tough...not at all afraid of getting highly uncomfortable and staying in that space for a very long time

Our sport is black and white and very measureable in time and distance...I dare any of you naysayers to spend a training/racing month with Pilch...frankly, you not likely survive.

Congratulations Brian...no one has ever been more deserving

Very best,

Mike Fanelli

`fred wrote:

diminishing threshold wrote:

Unless you are actually setting PRs none of those things are actually happening. You're just scrabbilng at the edge of the precipice and slipping backwards.

What are you trying to say here.

``None of those things are actually happening`` If you are running 100 miles a week at 40, that is actually happening. It`s real; it`s physical.

I believe she ran a 4:45 mile. So 5 min mile repeats would be real for a 40 year old female.

They are actually happening.

I meant that she's not actually building her threshold. She's adding paint to a crumbling building.

Dear MikeF, I don't think anyone really cares, go back and read the thread, it quickly morphed in to stuff totally unrelated to the stuff you wrote. The LR trolls look forward to your next post in five years time when you enter a new age group.

There is something here I have an issue with.

Your c) he is exceptionally tough…not at all afraid of getting highly uncomfortable and staying in that space for a very long time.

I am a military trained female. I am tougher than any man. I can get highly uncomfortable and stay in that space for longer than any of you. I can hike longer than any man in ways that are not able to be measured in time and distance. I dare any of you naysayers to spend a month hiking with me.

Frankly, none of you puny men would survive. I am the most deserving.

I am the best,

Kaiha Bertollini

Appalachian Trail Record Holder

I have no idea whether bpilch is clean, but you do understand how PEDs work right? They allow you to train much harder than others and recover much faster than others.

rjm33 wrote:

Oh boy.

I am really mad now.

Update Ed Whitlock 2016 M85-89 World Records (again):

1) 1500m Indoor World Record – 6:38.87 (the outdoor WR is 6:37.75)

2) Mile World Record – 7:18.55

3) 3000m World Record –13:41.96 (equivalent to a sub-7:00 minute mile)

4) 5K World Record – 24:03.99

5) 10,000m Track World Record – 51:07.53

6) 10K Road World Record - 49:50

7) Half-Marathon World Record – 1:50:47

8) 25K World Record - 2:16:46 (split during Marathon WR)

9) 30K World Record - 2:45:46 (split during Marathon WR)

10) Marathon World Record - 3:56:33 (3:56:38 gun time)

11) Ed's next race…15K?, 10M?, 20K?, 8K?, 12K?, 800m?

Take that Martin Rees.

You're really mad? Do you always get upset when people have a different opinion to you? Perhaps you are 7 years old, in which case, I get it.

Anyway, I hope you have had some time to simmer down. Ed is clearly magnificent and an inspiration - multiple records (more than Rees) and longer career (obviously) but it's my opinion that Rees' marks are slightly better.

Yes. I have been mad for many years.

I don't care at all what your opinion is about anything…even if your opinion is probably wrong. You are just Go Pete on a stupid running forum on the internet. OK?

By the way…Are you mad about the fact that LRC has nothing on the front page about the fantastic new record of Pete Kostelnick crossing the US in 42 days 8 hours and 34 minutes (or maybe 42 days 6 hours and 34 minutes), averaging 72+ miles per day and 505+ miles per week for 6 consecutive weeks in a row?

(I am mad about it.)

The LRC people have probably been busy watching football games, baseball games, and debates.

They are not yet aware of Pete's new fantastic ultra record.

I think the LRC people are biased agains ultra runners.

Do you have an opinion on this obvious LRC Anti-Ultra-Biasâ„¢?

In two successive posts to me, you said,

"I am really mad now" (in response to my opinion on something)

Then,

"I don't care at all about your opinion on anything"

Which is it?

this

Who cares? wrote:

Dear MikeF, I don't think anyone really cares, go back and read the thread, it quickly morphed in to stuff totally unrelated to the stuff you wrote. The LR trolls look forward to your next post in five years time when you enter a new age group.

Both.

rjm33 wrote:

Both.

Well, thanks for playing, but I generally prefer to banter with someone who can last more than one post without contradicting themselves.