Kebenei, Lalang & Jordan join American Distance Project

Curious Curious wrote:

How does Scott Simmons keep running American Distance Project with no funding? ADP is a non-profit!

I just don't get it. Anyone? Anyone?

---- Well Michael Jordan has to be close to a Billionaire through Basketball and Endorsements, sponsoring a running club to him, is about the same financially as taking someone for lunch at Burger King is for most people, so he probably helps a lot.

The American Distance Project welcomes

Stanley Kebenei (Nike)

Lawi Lalang (Nike)

and

Michael Jordan.

http://drink09.wixsite.com/adpnew/single-post/2016/10/16/Kebenei-Lalang-and-Jordan-Join-ADP

So Lalang and Chelanga are both no longer with James Li? Anyone have any insight on that?

Coach Li is getting up there in age. Could he be retiring soon? I can see Lagat being the only reason that he is hanging around the coaching game anymore.

Down with Flo wrote:

Coach Li is getting up there in age. Could he be retiring soon? I can see Lagat being the only reason that he is hanging around the coaching game anymore.

When I look at Coach Li's twitter feed, he's still very active.

bigtool05 wrote:

So Lalang and Chelanga are both no longer with James Li? Anyone have any insight on that?

Yeah, that seems weird. Lalang has gotten worse post grad anyway.

That's the pattern for the superstar Kenyans that win a bunch of NCAA titles going a ways back. Every few years there is a new Kenyan that is better than the previous ones and wins a shit load of races at conference and national meets. Everyone speculates that they'll become an American citizen and make teams but by the time they're out of school it doesn't matter.

King Chez will be the next one.

"Jordan" on this board means Jordan Hasay. If you mean any other Jordan, please use first and last name.

Stanley was a Li athlete too who has also flown the coup !

Li has Lost his Passion(assuming he ever had any )

no attention to detail anymore,

Dear Coach LI

EVERYONE CAN'T BE KIP!!!!

Start coaching again !!!!

Simmons is not a good coach!!! (close to the situation , not pretty)

But the draw here is the group !

If you have many great guys together in the same place great things happen!

And.... opportunities are so few and far between they have to take what they can get , which makes Simmons look far better than he is as a coach !

sad to see great guys settling for poor coaching just to have people to train with !!!

elaborate...what makes him a poor coach? Why is it not pretty? Is it personality, lack of knowledge, high injury rate?

Curious Curious wrote:

How does Scott Simmons keep running American Distance Project with no funding? ADP is a non-profit!

I just don't get it. Anyone? Anyone?

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The American Distance Project welcomes

Stanley Kebenei (Nike)

Lawi Lalang (Nike)

and

Michael Jordan.

http://drink09.wixsite.com/adpnew/single-post/2016/10/16/Kebenei-Lalang-and-Jordan-Join-ADP

How much funding does it take to coach athletes who have shoe contracts, sub-elites who work a job and a coach who does not rely on coaching revenue? Not as much as you think. Keep in mind, ADP's top athletes can easily subsist off of a small shoe contract and racing revenues.

And any questions about Simmons ability as a coach or the ADP setup in general. Having a good area to train and a god training group is 80% of the game. And, athletes like Sammy and Lawi, without a doubt, should know how to train.

Curious Curious wrote:

and

Michael Jordan.

http://drink09.wixsite.com/adpnew/single-post/2016/10/16/Kebenei-Lalang-and-Jordan-Join-ADP

Wow, making a comeback as a runner? Never woulda guessed.

Curious Curious wrote:

How does Scott Simmons keep running American Distance Project with no funding? ADP is a non-profit!

I just don't get it. Anyone? Anyone?

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The American Distance Project welcomes

Stanley Kebenei (Nike)

Lawi Lalang (Nike)

and

Michael Jordan.

http://drink09.wixsite.com/adpnew/single-post/2016/10/16/Kebenei-Lalang-and-Jordan-Join-ADP

Non-profit does not mean broke! There are some very wealthy non-profits, most notoriously the wealthy non-profit hospitals driving healthcare costs through the roof.

Non-profit just means they can't pay out profit--which in the case of the hospitals drives them to keep purchasing extremely expensive equipment, whose prices then directly drive healthcare costs up.

Sure there are non-profit organizations that have Presidents and CEOs making a million dollars, but how does a non-profit coach make money? I understand that the athletes have contracts with shoe companies and such, and $ winnings if they win, but how does Simmons make any money?

I've heard he's broke and that he doesn't charge his athletes or take a percentage of his athletes' winnings. Does he pay himself somehow?

Is Colorado an inexpensive place to live? Maybe Simmons has a day job or something. As I recall he had a bar or a brewpub in Colorado. Maybe he supports himself that way. I don't think coaching a non-profit team brings in a whole lotta money, does it?

sad news wrote:

Simmons is not a good coach!!! (close to the situation , not pretty)

But the draw here is the group !

If you have many great guys together in the same place great things happen!

And.... opportunities are so few and far between they have to take what they can get , which makes Simmons look far better than he is as a coach !

sad to see great guys settling for poor coaching just to have people to train with !!!

Do tell! What's the situation with Simmons? You can't just drop statements like that (close to the situation , not pretty) without some follow up.

I live in Boulder and heard through the group I train with that Simmons and his psychic/crystal ball wife got back together again. I guess after their taproom gig fell apart they separated and she moved back to wherever she's from in Europe. But then she came back a few months ago.

One of Simmons runners told me that he's preoccupied with her and not focused on coaching. He and his wife are trying to start another business venture to make some money. Their relationship is really toxic and they argue constantly but they seem to keep getting back together.

Anyway- it's sad that these great runners are under Simmons, but good that they are at least together as teammates and training partners.

Close To It:

Here's proof that Coach Simmon's wife is back in Colorado with him. Imagine a bleach blonde with a thick Russian sounding accent hovering over a crystal ball giving palm readings with tea leaves and hearing voices from your dead grandma. Lol!

Petra Staskova Simmons is back or should I say, still here. She has classes and Spiritual guides to help her with her tarot readings. Coach Simmons had her working as an assistant xc coach at past colleges he worked at, and she did some psychic healing on his athletes. Crazy sh*t.

Maybe the Kenyans like that sort of woo woo stuff or buy into it but the whole situation in Colorado Springs is pathetic and just sad.

Here's a link to her dial 800-call a psychic website:

http://www.psychichealingwithpetra.com

Or may be Kenyans are just interested in training and don't care about personal life.

Kenyans don't give a shit o wrote:

Or may be Kenyans are just interested in training and don't care about personal life.

Perhaps that is true, however it is impossible for Simmons to separate his personal from his coaching when his wife is running and involved with his athletes. I know from experience how this works.

If you look at past posts on here you'll see that Petra has been involved in his coaching process in the past. Well, it's still going on.