Official 2016 Wisco/Pre-Nats Discussion Thread

Here are the men's team results with their national rankings added so you can see who impressed and who flopped.

Team (rank) points

Place Team Points

1 Northern Arizona (#1) 78

2 Stanford (#11) 118

3 BYU (#3) 144

4 Syracuse (#2) 167

5 Iona (#8) 240

6 UCLA (#27) 246

7 Portland (#7) 257

8 Iowa State (#14) 260

9 Washington St. (RV) 283

10 Colorado St. (#21) 298

11 Wisconsin (#16) 313

12 Southern Utah (RV) 347

13 Tulsa (#26) 367

14 Georgetown (#17) 399

15 Boise State (#18) 413

16 Washington (#23) 416

17 Eastern Michigan (unranked) 421

18 Michigan State (#22) 436

19 Providence (#24) 486

19 Penn (#25) 486

21 Florida State (unranked) 524

22 Minnesota (RV) 540

23 South Dakota St. (unranked) 555

24 North Carolina St. (RV) 578

25 Columbia (RV) 582

26 Eastern Kentucky (#15) 599

27 Illinois (#29) 615

28 Princeton (RV) 634

29 Texas A&M (unranked) 641

30 North Carolina (unranked) 826

A bunch of Pac 12 teams led by UCLA and Washington State both ran much better than expected. 19 ranked teams and six other teams receiving votes in the national polls competed in the men’s race. Yet #27 UCLA managed to finish 6th overall and unranked Washington State was 11th overall. #11 Stanford finished 2nd overall although most pundits thought Stanford was way underrated as the #11 team in the country (they are #4 in the LRC fan poll).

Unranked Southern Utah deserves praise for finishing 12th as does unranked Eastern Michigan who was 17th overall - beating 5 ranked teams.

#15 Eastern Kentucky was the biggest disappointment as they were just 26th. Despite finishing 26th, Eastern Michigan actually beat a ranked team as #29 Illinois was 27th.

Wonder how much of a difference Thomas Ratcliffe will make, and did Alex run for Stanford?

Still looks like NAU is head and shoulders the best team right now, Syracuse goes home devastated?

Was thinking that...where the hell is Alex Ostberg? Kid was unreal in HS and have not heard a single thing about him since.

Does anyone know what the story is with CSU Jefferson Abbey? 13th last year at NCAA, 184th today. Hopefully okay by Qualifying

Top finishing freshman is from Princeton? Conor Lundy. Quite impressive.

He RS last year, so I'd have thought he'd be running by now, I guess not though

Syracuse's new Italian kid, Iliass Aouani really blew up- he was in 13th at 6K (18:24) and dropped to 86th (24:53) at the finish. While Northern Arizona clearly had the best team today, that 73 spot drop (and losing a rock like Hehir) was the 'Cuse difference between last year and this year.

Colby Gilbert:

2K: 2nd

4k: 4th

6k: 32nd

8k: 63rd

Not a fun way to run a race. Good thing it wasn't 10k (or 12).

Wisconsin didn't run Malachy today...

keanu wrote:

Wisconsin didn't run Malachy today...

DNF vs DNS

He dropped out maybe around 6K -- saw him pull off and collapse.

I am not comparing Letsrun to Flotrack, I am just pointing the similar fact. rojo you have ranked nau a t# 7 then # 5 while the couches poll ranked NAU 3rd twice then 1st. You should have gave a little respect for a team that has 4 guys under 29:20 10km and 7 guys under 14:10 5km. Any way, they look very good today. Hopefully they keep this good form to nationals and win the Nationals. They have been on the podium for 3 years on the last 4 years they need to win it this year.

Wisconsin Women's race amateur video:

https://youtu.be/xUrlpsc0O2M

Wisconsin Men's race amateur video:

https://youtu.be/acahqv5dz3E

Great video! Neale closed like a train.

These sub-100lb pixies never pan out. In a couple years they will fall away and Anna Rohrer will win easily.

The amateur video is better than flotrack for gods sake

Digging deeper into the women's results, Washington just crushed everyone. Insane depth. They had seven in before NC State or Providence's fifth AND a JR that won the B-race unpressed and would have been in front of NCS #5 and Friar's #6 as well! All eight are underclasswomen. Starting to look like a dynasty in the making if they stay healthy.

I agree they looked great, but they didn't run vs Colorado and some other good teams, so dynasty talk is a bit soon.

On another note credit to the BYU men taking third and showing that Virginia meet wasn't a fluke.

ezb wrote:

He dropped out maybe around 6K -- saw him pull off and collapse.

According to live results during the race, he was with the leaders through 4K, dropped back from 4K to 6k, then dropped out. Anyone know exactly what happened?