Zane Robertson 27:28 wins Berlin 10k

Very impressive. 50 second gap to second place. Crushed Mottram's Australian record.

floto wrote:

Very impressive. 50 second gap to second place. Crushed Mottram's Australian record.

Which would be even more relevant if he wasn't from New Zealand.

Yo're absolutely right. Meant to say AR record for Oceania, which stood at 27:54 before.

Will Mottram go down as the most doped runner in history after Paula Radcliffe? Damn.

jTjg wrote:

Will Mottram go down as the most doped runner in history after Paula Radcliffe? Damn.

Hardly. He's got bekele, el g, Gebreselassie, morceli, and lagat to get past.

How about Daniel Komen, maybe that's why he got out so quick. Do you think every good runner is doped?

ck3237 wrote:

How about Daniel Komen, maybe that's why he got out so quick. Do you think every good runner is doped?

Komen was clearly doped. Not sure why you would even question it.

Great run Zane - awesome run, but you mentioned on your Instagram post that you were the fastest non-african over 10km.. unfortunately that honor goes to a guy living 40km out of Hamilton by the name of Jon Brown.. there's a couple of other non-africans ahead of you on the list too, but you are #4 - which is still awesome.

10 km Men Alltime List

1 26:44 WR Leonard Komon KEN 10 Jan 88 1 Singelloop Utrecht 26 Sep 2010

2 27:01 Micah Kogo KEN 3 Jun 86 1 Parelloop Brunssum 29 Mar 2009

3 27:02 NR Haile Gebrselassie ETH 18 Apr 73 1 Million $ Doha 13 Dec 2002

4 27:04 Joseph Kimani KEN 1 Sep 72 1 Atlanta GA 4 Jul 1996

4 27:04 Josephat Menjo KEN 20 Aug 79 1 Bombers Barcelona 18 Apr 2010

6 27:09 Stephenson Nyamu KEN 20 Nov 71 1 Pittsburgh PA 24 Sep 1995

6 27:09 Peter Kamais KEN 7 Nov 76 1 NC Tilburg 6 Sep 2009

8 27:11 Joseph Kamau KEN 17 Jun 69 2 Pittsburgh PA 24 Sep 1995

8 27:11 Sammy Kipketer KEN 29 Sep 81 1 New Orleans LA 30 Mar 2002

8 27:11 Sammy Kitwara KEN 26 Nov 86 2 Singelloop Utrecht 26 Sep 2010

11 27:15 Jimmy Muindi KEN 14 Aug 73 3 Pittsburgh PA 24 Sep 1995

12 27:18 John Kariuki KEN 69 4 Pittsburgh PA 24 Sep 1995

12 27:18 Jon Brown GBR 27 Feb 71 5 Pittsburgh PA 24 Sep 1995

14 27:19 Moses Masai KEN 1 Jun 86 1 World's Best San Juan 28 Feb 2010

14 27:19A Alene Emere Reta ETH 5 Mar 82 1 Salt Lake City UT 24 Jul 2010

14 27:19 Geoffrey Mutai KEN 7 Oct 81 1 BAA Boston MA 26 Jun 2011

17 27:22 Mark Nenow USA 16 Nov 57 1 New Orleans LA 1 Apr 1984

17 27:22 Martin Mathathi KEN 25 Dec 85 1 Parelloop Brunssum 28 Mar 2010

19 27:24 William Sigei KEN 11 Oct 69 1 New Orleans LA 16 Apr 1994

19 27:24 Hezron Otwori KEN 25 Dec 76 6 Pittsburgh PA 24 Sep 1995

19 27:24 NR Zersenay Tadese ERI 8 Feb 82 2 BUPA Manchester 20 May 2007

19 27:24 Deribe Merga ETH 26 Oct 82 1 MDS Nordion Ottawa 23 May 2009

23 27:25 NR Risto Ulmala FIN 7 May 63 7 Pittsburgh PA 24 Sep 1995

23 27:25 Martin Lel KEN 29 Oct 78 1 Peachtree Atlanta GA 4 Jul 2006

23 27:25 Kaan Kigen Özbilen KEN 15 Jan 86 2 Asics Berlin 10 Oct 2010

23 27:25 Stephen Sambu KEN 7 Jul 88 1 BAA Boston MA 22 Jun 2014

27 27:26 Abraham Chebii KEN 23 Dec 79 1 Azalea Mobile AL 25 Mar 2001

28 27:27 Simeon Rono KEN 9 Apr 72 1 Crescent New Orleans LA 11 Apr 1998

29 27:28 Gilbert Okari KEN 2 Jul 78 1 Cape Elizabeth ME 3 Aug 2003

29 27:28 Abdellah Falil MAR 29 May 76 1 Sérres 10 Jun 2007

29 27:28 Silas Kipruto KEN 26 Sep 84 1 NC Marseille 1 May 2008

29 27:28 Philip Langat KEN 23 Apr 90 1 Singelloop Utrecht 25 Sep 2011

29 27:28 Geoffrey Ronoh KEN 29 Nov 82 1 Birell Praha 6 Sep 2014

30 Zane Robertson 27.28 Berlin 2016

ck3237 wrote:

How about Daniel Komen, maybe that's why he got out so quick. Do you think every good runner is doped?

Yes, that is what I think. This is the rule: Faster than me? Cheater. Slower than me? Loser.

douglas burke wrote:

On the roads

Thanks for the thread. Zane did 27:33 in Rio after 5 weeks training. I thought he could go 27:15-20 with longer training. I'm shocked that he nearly did this on roads.

douglas burke wrote:

http://berlin10.r.mikatiming.de/2016/?pid=list

Negative splits to.

TrackBot! VDOT 27:28 10km

VDOT for 27:28 10km: 80.8

Equivalent race times based on VDOT:

Marathon: 02:06:29

Half marathon: 01:00:21

15K: 00:42:02

10K: 00:27:26

5K: 00:13:11

3Mi: 00:12:42

2Mi: 00:08:10

3200m: 00:08:07

3K: 00:07:34

1Mi: 00:03:49

1600m: 00:03:48

1500m: 00:03:32

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http://habs.sdf.org/trackbot

Way down the line wrote:

jTjg wrote:

Will Mottram go down as the most doped runner in history after Paula Radcliffe? Damn.

Hardly. He's got bekele, el g, Gebreselassie, morceli, and lagat to get past.

Ben Johnson, Mo Greene, Marion Jones, Boulami, Wolde, Dieter, Skah, Hissou. Tergat. Makhloufi. Pretty much any North African since 1972.

TrackBot wrote:

VDOT for 27:28 10km: 80.8

Equivalent race times based on VDOT:

Marathon: 02:06:29

Half marathon: 01:00:21

15K: 00:42:02

10K: 00:27:26

5K: 00:13:11

3Mi: 00:12:42

2Mi: 00:08:10

3200m: 00:08:07

3K: 00:07:34

1Mi: 00:03:49

1600m: 00:03:48

1500m: 00:03:32

I am a bot. Info:

http://habs.sdf.org/trackbot

2:06 is pretty impressive, he has already gone 59 mins for the half. I doubt he could do any of the shorter distances at those speeds though.

Subway Surfers Junkie wrote:

TrackBot wrote:

VDOT for 27:28 10km: 80.8

Equivalent race times based on VDOT:

Marathon: 02:06:29

Half marathon: 01:00:21

15K: 00:42:02

10K: 00:27:26

5K: 00:13:11

3Mi: 00:12:42

2Mi: 00:08:10

3200m: 00:08:07

3K: 00:07:34

1Mi: 00:03:49

1600m: 00:03:48

1500m: 00:03:32

I am a bot. Info:

http://habs.sdf.org/trackbot

2:06 is pretty impressive, he has already gone 59 mins for the half. I doubt he could do any of the shorter distances at those speeds though.

This is the equivalent of anything from 27:03 to 27.18 on the track, probably about 27:13. Which is pretty quick for a white guy.

I have to wonder about the course in that Pittsburgh race in 1995. 5 guys, including Jon Brown at 27:18 or better in one race in that era?

Mark Nenow ran 27:22 in 1984 ... 32.5 years ago.