Rob young for his sub 5 min miles at 8000ft at 3am. plus his 1hr half marathon 120c degrees desert runs during his 80 mile days. plus that he did it just for the kids. Now Ali is dead Rob is the greatest....plus bonus points for not being a Muslim.
Rob young for his sub 5 min miles at 8000ft at 3am. plus his 1hr half marathon 120c degrees desert runs during his 80 mile days. plus that he did it just for the kids. Now Ali is dead Rob is the greatest....plus bonus points for not being a Muslim.
calculo wrote:
You Said It wrote:The guy was so good at so many distances it was almost a detriment to his ability to maximize his potential in a single event...not exactly fair to say, but kinda the jack of all trades, master of none syndrome - at least to some extentno
if you have an intrinsic 3'26+, it's damn sure 1500 is your best distance
even intrinsic 1'42.0 is not worth better than a 3'28-low ( check iaaf tables or others )
aouita just liked to show off, but he was always a 1500 runner who had superb under-distance ability & lesser demonstrated over distance
( his 3k & 5k numbers really don't impress today albeit he never got a 4'53 pacer for 3k or a 7'40 pacer for 5k )
but bottom line : he was a 1500 runner
we missed possible clash of the century in '87 over 1500 when aouita chose the 5k instead of the 1500 where Abdi won it with a 1'46+ last 800 in a 3'36.8
What I meant was relatively speaking...they guy was gifted across the board...he obviously was somewhat better naturally at certain events within his wide range from 800m to 5000m than others.
I agree with you on some points and disagree on others, but I don't feel like getting into a multi-page argument about every last detail.
Just Another LRC Idiot wrote:
all simple math.... wrote:Don Ritchie ran the 1/4 mile while in high school. (He actually ran the 100 yds and 220 yds in grade school) He later ran 100 miles in 11:30 which is under 7 minute pace. That would make his range 99.75 miles.
He is CLEARLY the winner of this thread.
Yiannis Kouros owns the WR in 100miles, 1000km, 1000miles, 12h, 24h, and 48h. That would make his range 900miles.
No, because he was not RUNNING the whole 1000 miles. He was jogging and walking parts of it.
all simple math..... wrote:
Just Another LRC Idiot wrote:Yiannis Kouros owns the WR in 100miles, 1000km, 1000miles, 12h, 24h, and 48h. That would make his range 900miles.
No, because he was not RUNNING the whole 1000 miles. He was jogging and walking parts of it.
This thread should be limited to Olympic events.
Taking a deep breath wrote:
Choge's 2006 Commonwealth games gold was epic, but his lack of outdoor world and Olympic medals counts against him.
Medals has nothing to do with range. You can win a 1500 gold with a 3:50.
Choge is probably the man who can run sub-60 pace the farthest. He will run the first sub 2:02 marathon. He ain't even 30 yet and already 800+ GOAT.
Bad Wigins wrote:
Taking a deep breath wrote:Choge's 2006 Commonwealth games gold was epic, but his lack of outdoor world and Olympic medals counts against him.
Medals has nothing to do with range. You can win a 1500 gold with a 3:50.
Choge is probably the man who can run sub-60 pace the farthest. He will run the first sub 2:02 marathon. He ain't even 30 yet and already 800+ GOAT.
Choge or Kipchoge? They are different people.
ukathleticscoach wrote:
Stevie O wrote:Steve Ovett started life as as sprinter. 22 second 200m up to 65 min half marathon entered on a whim. The guy was a freak.
His best performances over longer distance were actually over xc
He won the inter counties over 7 miles and was 4th in the National over 9 miles. As an example of the standard Ian Stewart was 2nd. In 1975 Ian won gold at world xc. He was still pb'ing the year earlier and ran 45xx over 10m road in 78
That xc is not over some golf course like America plus at that time you really had to be a good runner to get top 5 in the nationsl.
He also won the English National junior U20
21.7 for 200m aged 20
Good point, well made! I'd forgotten his XC exploits. Those were incredibly tough, sapping courses as well against top endurance guys. There aren't many 800m-1500m specialists who could hang (and beat) tough with a load of 45-48 min 10 milers. That 65 min Half Marathon was a week before his 'perfect' 1500m and was hardly his best effort. I believe the story goes that he was just going to run for 10 miles but he found himself next to the leader and so thought he may as well carry on and win.
Johnny Halberstadt
Mile 3:59.9
8km Sub 23:00 (in a downhill race)
10km 28:50.4
21.1km 1:03.35
Marathon 2:11.46
Ultra Marathon (56km) 3:05:37
100km 6:47
Fastest and tremendous range. A stand up individual who fought for runners and humans.
RIP: D3 All-American Frank Csorba - who ran 13:56 in March - dead
RENATO can you talk about the preparation of Emile Cairess 2:06
Running for Bowerman Track Club used to be cool now its embarrassing
Great interview with Steve Cram - says Jakob has no chance of WRs this year
Hats off to my dad. He just ran a 1:42 Half Marathon and turns 75 in 2 months!
2017 World 800 champ Pierre-Ambroise Bosse banned 1 year for whereabouts failures