Levin won the NCAA on 180-190 mile weeks. How about you?
Levin won the NCAA on 180-190 mile weeks. How about you?
Levins wrote:
Levin won the NCAA on 180-190 mile weeks. How about you?
Cam Levins? When did he win an NCAA XC title?
statanalyst wrote:
Levins wrote:Levin won the NCAA on 180-190 mile weeks. How about you?
Cam Levins? When did he win an NCAA XC title?
2012 Levins claimed the NCAA Track Championship titles for both the 10,000m and 5,000m
same old math wrote:
I'd be surprised if one NCAA champion ran 100 miles per week. They're young adults training for 10k. Not veterans training for a marathon. 80-90 miles would be standard.
Josh Rohatinsky was at 85 mpw heading into the 2004 season coming off injury. He won 2 years later and I'd guess he upped his mileage since '04.
Pat Tiernan (2nd in xC last year) posts his training and he ran 70-80mpw. He didn't win though.
Salazar said Rupp didn't run more than 70mpw during college.
Immense talent and a solid work ethic is what's required. There's no set mileage.
UKstudent wrote:
No, because three years of university fees will only set you back about £26000.
I will tell you: wrote:Does the club system also pay for two hundred grand worth of tuition?
Still less of a value. And while it only costs "you" £26000, it's costing someone the difference.
I will tell you: wrote:
UKstudent wrote:No, because three years of university fees will only set you back about £26000.
Still less of a value. And while it only costs "you" £26000, it's costing someone the difference.
Giving someone a scholarship costs someone else the difference as well. UK/Australia also have government loans in place so tuition debt isn't a big deal at all. I know where I'd rather grow up
The idea that there would be a set amount of mileage required to be a champion is absurd in and of itself...mileage is such an individual question that I think identifying teams or programs as "high mileage programs" is a disservice to the coaches. I'm confident in saying that there have been NCAA champions where one of the team members runs 120 miles per week while another runs 60 miles per week...and they could very well have run around the same time!
The key to having great success is doing all the little things right. There really isn't anything more important than diet, core, and sleep, and I can guarantee you that just about every individual/team on the podium have executed those things to a T. I know for a fact that teams like Wisco/OSU/Portland institute 'dry' seasons in which the athletes vow to not do anything destructive (alcohol/elicit drugs/sweets) for the entirety of the season. Greatness takes sacrifice.
runnerboy1 wrote:
and ultimately leave the sport altogether. This is where the UK club system is far superior to the USA collegiate model.
The collegiate model produced the olympic gold medalist at 1500, the olympic bronze medalist at 800, The olympic silver medalist at 5k, and the olympic bronze medalist in the Marathon.
Oh, also the bronze medalist in the women's steeple and the bronze medalist in the women's 1500.
It also produced Tom Farrell and Chris O'Hare. 2 Brits who have represented the UK in the olympics. You're welcome.
Agree with just about everything on here. My question is, I've seen a couple top 25 guys that were training at 50-60 miles a week. They never increased through college. In my opinion they will never know if they would have been better or worse if running 80 miles a week consistently.
ezby wrote:
I will tell you: wrote:Still less of a value. And while it only costs "you" £26000, it's costing someone the difference.
Giving someone a scholarship costs someone else the difference as well. UK/Australia also have government loans in place so tuition debt isn't a big deal at all. I know where I'd rather grow up
No, it makes the shoe sponsors money, whereas taxpayers will never be paid back. It's only paid forward in a Ponzi scheme. Sorry...
I typically try to rub it out 100+ times a week and I seem to be doing pretty well
It's not required but it helps a lot. A lot of top 20 guys are doing 100 mpw or more.
statanalist wrote:
statanalyst wrote:Cam Levins? When did he win an NCAA XC title?
2012 Levins claimed the NCAA Track Championship titles for both the 10,000m and 5,000m
So again for those a little slow, when did Cam Levins win a NCAA XC title?
No way. I remember watching an interview with Lawi Lalang from like 4 or 5 years ago and he said he was doing like 50 mpw during the season.
Bonkers wrote:
runnerboy1 wrote:and ultimately leave the sport altogether. This is where the UK club system is far superior to the USA collegiate model.
The collegiate model produced the olympic gold medalist at 1500, the olympic bronze medalist at 800, The olympic silver medalist at 5k, and the olympic bronze medalist in the Marathon.
Oh, also the bronze medalist in the women's steeple and the bronze medalist in the women's 1500.
It also produced Tom Farrell and Chris O'Hare. 2 Brits who have represented the UK in the olympics. You're welcome.
Although Andy Butchart and Charlie Grice made Olympic finals this summer, while Farrell and O'Hare did not. Just putting that out there.
yes, but........he could have done it on less though.'twas a purebred nutjob headcase......needed a coach to kick his ass and tell him to stop obsessing so muchwe know how it played out
Runn262 wrote:
Gerry Lindgren (66, 67, 69) certainly did.
UKstudent wrote:
No, because three years of university fees will only set you back about £26000.
I will tell you: wrote:Does the club system also pay for two hundred grand worth of tuition?
yeah, in a markedly inferior system
Bonkers wrote:
runnerboy1 wrote:and ultimately leave the sport altogether. This is where the UK club system is far superior to the USA collegiate model.
The collegiate model produced the olympic gold medalist at 1500, the olympic bronze medalist at 800, The olympic silver medalist at 5k, and the olympic bronze medalist in the Marathon.
Oh, also the bronze medalist in the women's steeple and the bronze medalist in the women's 1500.
It also produced Tom Farrell and Chris O'Hare. 2 Brits who have represented the UK in the olympics. You're welcome.
Throw enough mud at the wall and some of it will stick. Collegiate system breaks more runners than it makes.